End of the PF dream?

[Seaward]

Boromir and Gimli were strongly hinted at as potential PF figures, and if Sideshow is going to drop hints about ridiculous things like a Nazgul on Steed, Cave Troll or Sauron PF, I don't see the problem with these two characters getting made as a PF at some point. I feel like the comment about Gimli being difficult to develop is aimed more at the 1:6 line, not the PF line. Granted, the chain mail could be a _____, but Sideshow has some clever designers working with them, and there is nothing to say that those pieces of his outfit couldn't be sculpted.


I am not giving up hope on the PF line at all, as it sounds like it has a healthy, if expensive, future. The maquette line looks great too, and perhaps SS is pushing Gimli out to slake our demand for now until they get back to heroes in the PF line.

That being said, I have sold numerous SS collections online when they eventually peter out...but I am trying to be hopeful!!

 

[roguebaron]

if hot toys can make the 12" Saizo Kirigakure with real chain on the arms, I'm sure Sc could manage to do it as well.

 

[DaveMac]

'With great lines comes great responsibilty' or something like that.

I'm not after bashing Sideshow as individuals as I am sure they are as dedicated to their art as they claim. Unfortunately it is all about the money; they need to earn it and I need to be convinced to part with it and this recent announcement has closed my wallet to both the PF and maquette line until (still hoping ) there is an announcement on the remaining Fellowship in Premium Format other than 'We might' or 'We'd love to see..' etc, etc

 

[tomandshell]

This is tough--if there are truly not going to be any more members of the Fellowship in the PF line, then that makes me want to lean towards the new maquettes because it sounds this will be the line where it is possible and cost effective to actually give us a full set.

However, if I compare the Gandalf the Grey PF to the maquette version, there's just no comparison. So do I want an incomplete set in a line that I personally prefer, or a full set in a brand new line that I am less enthusiastic about?

 

[tnaig001]

I just cancelled my GTG PF and ML PF. If there is no fellowship, i see no reason to get these anymore.

 

[DaveMac]

This is tough--if there are truly not going to be any more members of the Fellowship in the PF line, then that makes me want to lean towards the new maquettes because it sounds this will be the line where it is possible and cost effective to actually give us a full set.

However, if I compare the Gandalf the Grey PF to the maquette version, there's just no comparison. So do I want an incomplete set in a line that I personally prefer, or a full set in a brand new line that I am less enthusiastic about?

Therein lies the rub. Do you forgive and forget as it were, that this has happened to the 12" figure collectors, the LSB collectors and possibly the dio collectors and put more money into SS's pocket with thier promise of a Fellowship in the new line (which I believe they will now deliver). Or do you stick with the half set in PF you have and spend elsewhere given that this new line is a totally different range?

 

[tnaig001]

I've left the reasons for canceling in the comments box too. maybe the rest who cancel can do the same.

 

[Seaward]

Again, maybe I am too much of an optimist, but nowhere did Sideshow say that the PF line is dead, or that we wouldn't get Boromir or Gimli as PF's. They have downplayed the idea of the hobbits as PF, but they haven't actually said they aren't making Gimli or Boromir, and even strongly hinted at Sam.

 

[DaveMac]

Again, maybe I am too much of an optimist, but nowhere did Sideshow say that the PF line is dead, or that we wouldn't get Boromir or Gimli as PF's. They have downplayed the idea of the hobbits as PF, but they haven't actually said they aren't making Gimli or Boromir, and even strongly hinted at Sam.

Nope, they haven't said for definate. All hints and maybe's such as the LSB line being 'viable'. Nothing wrong with being an optomist, but when the half-full level seems to be dropping then sometimes you have to accept that there is a leak and it's not that the glass is just tilted away from you a bit

I'm still going with the tilted view for now

 

[theguru1]

This is tough--if there are truly not going to be any more members of the Fellowship in the PF line, then that makes me want to lean towards the new maquettes because it sounds this will be the line where it is possible and cost effective to actually give us a full set.

Of course the other side is if you want full Fellowship members, then there's always Weta. Say the average price is $220 per member for the new maquette line, your looking at almost $2000 for all 9 (plus postage, etc). Now depending on how, when and where you buy the SSW statues, you could get a fair few of the 9 and of course you know that all 9 exist.

The other option, is go maquette and mix and match.

At the end of the day, I'm not surprised that the fellowship in PF is fairly unlikely, even if you get past Gimli, you still got 3 Hobbit's.
Mind you, I wouldn't be convinced that you'll get all 9 in the maquette line either. It just seems that in only the few shorts years I've been in this game, half the time, the ones you really want made, never are and the ones that do get made, aren't exactly what you were hoping for.

That, and that if you what longer enough, the same character will be made again, giving you plenty of choice (tho that does seem to apply a lot more to Star Wars and Marvel, then it does LOTR).

 

[sigep756]

Okay, so I have no other LotR pieces...I have no other PF's, just maquettes...Do I drop the GtG I have on pre-order? I could put the money to pieces that better fit in my collection...Just can't decide...

 

[Entropy]

This is tough--if there are truly not going to be any more members of the Fellowship in the PF line, then that makes me want to lean towards the new maquettes because it sounds this will be the line where it is possible and cost effective to actually give us a full set.

However, if I compare the Gandalf the Grey PF to the maquette version, there's just no comparison. So do I want an incomplete set in a line that I personally prefer, or a full set in a brand new line that I am less enthusiastic about?

What is the end goal? of having the 9 Fellowship represented in their Fellowship attire? I'm not sure any Sideshow lotr line will give us that. Or are you okay with the 9 characters represented even if they aren't in Fellowship gear? Citadel Pippin anyone? With the maquettes, it appears we'll get fotr Aragorn, Gandalf and Gimli and Helm's Deep Legolas as well as Osgiliath Boromir. That's already 1 more than the PFs. Who knows if they'll do Rohan Merry and fotr Pippin or put 2 or more Hobbits together in a maquette or if they'll ever go back and revisit the same characters in different costumes or what.

With the PFs, I don't think they'll do anymore Hobbits, certainly not Merry and Pippin, Gimli's chances are better but I think Boromir they will make. And while the PFs probably won't have a complete fellowship, they are larger, more impressive (GtG vs GtG at least), and the ones they have made are all FotR representations. Even when the PF line started, I would have guessed SS would only make 5-6 of the Fellowship. The maquette line I'm guessing will eventually have all 9, the Hobbits might take awhile, but it'll be like the Weta affair where they aren't all fotr versions. But if it lasts, they may revisit Boromir, Legolas etc., though I'm not sure how long this 1:6 statue line can go on at $230-250 each.

 

[The Josh]

If we get all 9 members over the course of this line and its in gear from any of the moments from this trilogy. Thats fine by me. There are other characters I want to see made as well like Eomer, Faramir, another Balrog, and Cave Troll. In the end I think this line will be just fine and that we'll get several statues in this line my guess is at least as many in the SSW line.

 

[The Ringer]

This new maquette line has really got me hooked. I can finally utilize a full detolf and this line means at least double the space. I think the only PF I will be keeping is Frodo and my GTG I have on order.

 

[FrodoEyes]

If we get all 9 members over the course of this line and its in gear from any of the moments from this trilogy. Thats fine by me. There are other characters I want to see made as well like Eomer, Faramir, another Balrog, and Cave Troll. In the end I think this line will be just fine and that we'll get several statues in this line my guess is at least as many in the SSW line.

Really? That was quite comprehensive. 54 i think. I doubt we'll get 54 maquettes from SS.

 

[The Josh]

I think it very well could happen. The line is off to a pretty good start.

 

[FrodoEyes]

That would be great to see, but this is Sideshow, and times have changed! If they do go on for a while i'd love to see what they put out.

 

[The Josh]

It would be great to see. I think Sideshow would love to do that many and more. I think they will as long as the support stays strong for the line.

 

[xerxes]

It would be great to see. I think Sideshow would love to do that many and more. I think they will as long as the support stays strong for the line.

Agree Josh, but within that point lies the rub, can we expect this line to stay strong given the evidence of past SS LOTR lines? The line is off to a good solid start with the EX's of both Strider and Gandalf selling through, but these are only PO's, we'll have to wait and see whether those commitments to purchase turn into the real thing.

With so much being released now and into the future there are bound to be cancellations on these come ante up time... which leads me to think what becomes of this line if the reg's don't sell through and the Ex's come back into stock Are we on the slippery slope once more?

While we would all like the Fellowship represented in this and the PF line, really there are zero guarantee's no matter what SS say, one way or another. Things can and do change.

 

[LordTiminator]

Maybe not all the fellowship represented in the PF line.
But damn it bring on a PF Gimli
ITs not like we have enough Gimlis
GIMLI GIMLi GIMli GImli Gimli gimli
get the point SS