End of the PF dream?

[azurepred]

Has anyone asked about a king of the dead pf or maquette? That's the only other pf I want from this line

 

[The Ringer]

Has anyone asked about a king of the dead pf or maquette? That's the only other pf I want from this line

I can't recall anything off the top of my head other than the dio but I wouldn't mind a KOTD maquette.

 

[LordTiminator]

theres two KOTD s
isnt there?
Aragorn KOTD dio & KOTD

 

[azurepred]

theres two KOTD s
isnt there?
Aragorn KOTD dio & KOTD

ones Weta though...........and I hate dios, so SS, bring him on . *runs off to ask SS for a KOTD pf*

 

[xerxes]

Although I really like the GTG maquette I think it was a grave mistake to put it up for pre-order when the PF hasn't even started shippping yet. Another case of Sideshow shooting themselves in the foot, competing with itself. Collectors will most likely choose one or the other, but very few will get both. If anything Strider should have been followed up by Gimli and Boromir, and then perhaps Arwen before they revisited the grey wizard and the elf in yet another format.

Agree... one could argue the whole line is competing with the PF's and the existing SS/Weta pieces.

One thing the 12 inch/LSB/Dio's provided was a good degree of differentiation... but maybe that was a problem in and of itself

 

[FlyAndFight]

hope has forsaken these lands

 

[ComputerFly]

LOL.. "Hey guys... we have enough demand for a Robotic Darth Maul, but not for a PF of a central LotR character...sorry"

 

[furystorm]

Wow, yeah! That figure of Cyborg Maul was totally out of left field for me. I was not even aware the story existed. Now I know Boba Fett survived the Sarlacc (sp.) Pit, but had no idea until now, today, right now, that Maul survived being cut in half! Totally shocked here. And I see that Maul selling less than a Merry or Pippen or Sam or Gimli...

 

[DaveMac]

LOL.. "Hey guys... we have enough demand for a Robotic Darth Maul, but not for a PF of a central LotR character...sorry"

Yep. That DM character must just creep in under the 'complex' zone

 

[LOTRFan]

Yep. That DM character must just creep in under the 'complex' zone

Maybe they could rebuild a bionic Boromir!

 

[Darklord Dave]

I've only skimmed this thread - but I think the statement about how difficult LotR PFs are has been blown out of proportion. The PF line isn't "on hiatus", but they do take much longer to develop than the maquettes. So we may a slew of maquettes before the next PF. That's all it means.

 

[Seaward]

I've only skimmed this thread - but I think the statement about how difficult LotR PFs are has been blown out of proportion. The PF line isn't "on hiatus", but they do take much longer to develop than the maquettes. So we may a slew of maquettes before the next PF. That's all it means.

This has been my feeling too. Sideshow has stated that several characters are a challenge to develop, but have also told us or strongly hinted at characters that will be coming down the pipeline soon!

 

[Valarauko]

I've only skimmed this thread - but I think the statement about how difficult LotR PFs are has been blown out of proportion. The PF line isn't "on hiatus", but they do take much longer to develop than the maquettes. So we may a slew of maquettes before the next PF. That's all it means.

Thanks DLD - It amazes me how many people took a remark from a chat and blew it up into another "the sky is falling" deal! I've posted comments to clarify what was meant but it seemed to fall on deaf ears. It surprises me that SS isn't afraid to open their mouths about anything.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Thanks DLD - It amazes me how many people took a remark from a chat and blew it up into another "the sky is falling" deal! I've posted comments to clarify what was meant but it seemed to fall on deaf ears. It surprises me that SS isn't afraid to open their mouths about anything.

This is the issue about being TOO candid - innocent statements can be misconstrued and cause havok amongst the denizens.

 

[theguru1]

This is the issue about being TOO candid - innocent statements can be misconstrued and cause havok amongst the denizens.

Well, lets be clear, it wasn't a chat, it was a Q&A, so SS wasn't being too candid, what they weren't was clear in what they were saying.

We’ve been eager for a fresh start, and a format in which we’re most likely to be able to make good on the potential of a full Fellowship, and believe the new statue line IS that opportunity. Gimli is sort of a mascot for the potential of the line, as the complexity of the character & costume design poses significant challenges in other formats (especially 12-inch and PF), but he was the first design approved for the new statue line.

So from the first line, it says, that the new marquette line is the mostly likely to see a full fellowship.
The second line then talks specifically about Gimli and how hard he is to make in mix media, ie PF, yet was quick to approve for a pure statue line.
Now sure, it doesn't say Gimli won't be made as a PF (tho getting all 9 members in PF form is far less likely), but at the same time it doesn't say Gimli will be made.

All SS had to do was add an extra line, 'sure Gimli is very complex and challenging, BUT we are working on it'. At this stage I'm not aware that SS are, all I know is that a marquette version is coming.

 

[The Josh]

All SS had to do was add an extra line, 'sure Gimli is very complex and challenging, BUT we are working on it'. At this stage I'm not aware that SS are, all I know is that a marquette version is coming.

Right but you and others are jumping to the conclusion right away saying they're not just because they didn't say that. Assuming isn't always the best way to handle things.

 

[theguru1]

Right but you and others are jumping to the conclusion right away saying they're not just because they didn't say that. Assuming isn't always the best way to handle things.

Actually I'm not jumping either way or assuming, I'm just going by what I know according to SS.

Gimli is very complex to make as a PF and as far as I know, SS are not currently working on him. I also know, according to SS, that a full Fellowship in PF form (be it Gimli, Hobbits or whoever) is much less likely then said Fellowship in the new maquette line.

Josh, if you have any direct facts/evidence that currently proves any of the above to be wrong, then please, point it out.

 

[The Josh]

Actually I'm not jumping either way or assuming, I'm just going by what I know according to SS.

I've seen several in here say that the line is gonna end. That we're not gonna get Gimli. Nothing like either of those has been said. That to me is jumping the gun.

Gimli is very complex to make as a PF and as far as I know, SS are not currently working on him. I also know, according to SS, that a full Fellowship in PF form (be it Gimli, Hobbits or whoever) is much less likely then said Fellowship in the new maquette line.

Josh, if you have any direct facts/evidence that currently proves any of the above to be wrong, then please, point it out.

He is complex but that doesn't mean he won't be made. Thats what I'm saying. You can't just say well they haven't said they're making him or they haven't said they're working on it then this means it won't or isn't happening. Thats all I'm getting at and I think all Dave is getting at.

I have no evidence that they are for sure. I'm just going off of that they've said he's difficult to make and thats all.

 

[theguru1]

I've seen several in here say that the line is gonna end. That we're not gonna get Gimli. Nothing like either of those has been said. That to me is jumping the gun.

No doubt several have said that, but your answer included me in that list and I'm not aware I've said any such thing. Last I read from SS was that the PF line is more likely to focus on the bad guys and as such that's very different from it ending. It's the dio line that more fear is on thin ice, I have no doubts that SS plan to continue the PF line for sometime to come, isn't an Orc next?

He is complex but that doesn't mean he won't be made. Thats what I'm saying. You can't just say well they haven't said they're making him or they haven't said they're working on it then this means it won't or isn't happening. Thats all I'm getting at and I think all Dave is getting at.

I have no evidence that they are for sure. I'm just going off of that they've said he's difficult to make and thats all.

No, it doesn't mean he won't be, but you must admit, the signs currently aren't good. Just as your saying one can't assume it won't happen, given the info we currently have, your even further away from assuming he will be made.

So once again, we are only left with what has been said, and so far, when it comes to a Gimli and/or Fellowship PF, it's not looking good.

 

[DaveMac]

The only definate that has come out of this is that a definate answer on the Fellowship in PF is not expected, yet it is O.K for it to be said for the maquette line which needs promoting?

Maybe there are those who would like the LOTR PF range to fail because they were let down with other lines in the range, or maybe people are wising up to the sales technique (if that's what it is) of being led to believe that core characters will be produced, which has been discussed else where.
Either way, SS's comment that Gimli may prove too difficult for the range was not helpful in lieu of not answering the often asked question about the 9 in PF. Being candid about 'what's coming' is one thing but if it is openly avoided in one range and promoted in another, then why shouldn't the motives be questioned?

Again: Still hoping for the FULL Fellowship in Premium Format