End of the PF dream?

[The Josh]

No doubt several have said that, but your answer included me in that list and I'm not aware I've said any such thing. Last I read from SS was that the PF line is more likely to focus on the bad guys and as such that's very different from it ending. It's the dio line that more fear is on thin ice, I have no doubts that SS plan to continue the PF line for sometime to come, isn't an Orc next?

You're responses though say that you think they're not working on him for sure. You can't say that or that they are. Just that he's difficult thats it.

No, it doesn't mean he won't be, but you must admit, the signs currently aren't good. Just as your saying one can't assume it won't happen, given the info we currently have, your even further away from assuming he will be made.

The signs currently show he's not coming in the next few announcements. Nothing more nothing less as far as I'm concerned. I'm no further away than anyone who says the opposite. The responses say he's been difficult. Not that he won't be made or won't.

So once again, we are only left with what has been said, and so far, when it comes to a Gimli and/or Fellowship PF, it's not looking good.

The evidence has stated things with this line are difficult. Something most of us have known for a long while. The Fellowship could be bit of an issue mostly cause Merry and Pippin have always been tough sells and I don't think many would buy them in PF form. More likely a statue form.

 

[Darklord Dave]

To be fair, it is easy to draw the conclusion from the Q&A that they have no intention of making a PF Gimli. And I can't say for certain that he's on the drawing board. But I can say for certain that the PF line is not dead or "on hiatus". That answer was never intended to convey that we will NEVER see a PF Gimli.

 

[theguru1]

You're responses though say that you think they're not working on him for sure. You can't say that or that they are. Just that he's difficult thats it.

The evidence has stated things with this line are difficult. Something most of us have known for a long while. The Fellowship could be bit of an issue mostly cause Merry and Pippin have always been tough sells and I don't think many would buy them in PF form. More likely a statue form.

Currently, I don't think they are making a Gimli PF and in fact, given the answer in that Q&A I'm pretty sure that right now they aren't.
SS was more then happy enough to point out that the Gimli maquette is ready to rock and roll, happy enough to say to all that have been waiting for all 9 Fellowship members that if it's going to happen, then the new maquette line is the best chance and happy enough to say that a Gimli PF is very complex and hard to do.
About the only thing that SS wasn't happy to say, was that while Gimli is very hard to make, they are working on it. If it was being worked on, then given everything else they did say, why not say that as well?
Hence, I very much doubt a Gimli PF is currently on their schedule and be it him or Merry/Pippin that stop a full fellowship in PF, that's looking hugely unlikely as well.
So based on the information currently at hand, I feel much more certain in thinking the way I do, then thinking the other way around. This may change in time, as more is revealed, but till then, there's nothing to prove otherwise.

I too am sure that the PF line isn't dead or "on hiatus", I have no doubt it's continuing. Seeing a Gimli and/or full PF fellowship is a very different matter tho.

 

[The Josh]

Currently, I don't think they are making a Gimli PF and in fact, given the answer in that Q&A I'm pretty sure that right now they aren't.

Pretty hard to say one way or the other unless they state that they're for sure or not working on it unless they state one way or the other. All they've said is he's been difficult.

SS was more then happy enough to point out that the Gimli maquette is ready to rock and roll, happy enough to say to all that have been waiting for all 9 Fellowship members that if it's going to happen, then the new maquette line is the best chance and happy enough to say that a Gimli PF is very complex and hard to do.

The wanted to let fans know that Gimli is coming right now in the maquette line while we wait for what the PF will come out as.

About the only thing that SS wasn't happy to say, was that while Gimli is very hard to make, they are working on it. If it was being worked on, then given everything else they did say, why not say that as well?
Hence, I very much doubt a Gimli PF is currently on their schedule and be it him or Merry/Pippin that stop a full fellowship in PF, that's looking hugely unlikely as well.

They just wanted to let people know that Gimli is coming soon in the maquette line while they work on the PF. They've said he's difficult. Which I think is pretty obvious he's being worked on. He may be behind other pieces being made but they're not gonna say something like that unless they've done some work with the piece in some way shape or form.

So based on the information currently at hand, I feel much more certain in thinking the way I do, then thinking the other way around. This may change in time, as more is revealed, but till then, there's nothing to prove otherwise.

Thats fine. I feel the same. Until they say we're not working on him at all or he's not coming I'm cool with going with he's in the works at some stage in development.

 

[thenammagazine]

 

[theguru1]

They just wanted to let people know that Gimli is coming soon in the maquette line while they work on the PF. They've said he's difficult. Which I think is pretty obvious he's being worked on. He may be behind other pieces being made but they're not gonna say something like that unless they've done some work with the piece in some way shape or form.

So now who is jumping to massive conclusions based on nothing other then, 'well, they didn't say they aren't working on it'.
I'd say it's far from pretty obvious he's being worked on, if it was, then SS could have just said so, exactly like they did with the maquette line.
I'll all for you looking on the bright side Josh, but really, at this stage your just reading a lot of hope into the fact that SS didn't say something, while ignoring what they did say. Pointing out that he's difficult to make as a PF, means, based on past PF experience and some initial R&D, SS have concluded that a Gimli PF is going to be very hard to pull off. So lets put that on hold for now, continue to look into production options, but in the mean time, lets get to work on what can be mass produced.

 

[The Josh]

I would imagine if they think he's gonna be hard to do they've put in some time making the PF. That's all.

 

[theguru1]

Or they started, found out that he's going to be really hard to do (I suspect more so from a production point of view), and have since pushed him aside to work on others.

 

[The Josh]

That may be the case. That's what I'm saying though is they have at least worked on him so he's in the process someplace.

 

[theguru1]

Which just like other prototypes that never saw the light of day and there's a fair chance that a Gimli PF hasn't even made it too a full prototype. So that process can and does stop long before production and the SS answer pretty much sets the ground for just such an outcome.

 

[El Skutto]

Or they started, found out that he's going to be really hard to do (I suspect more so from a production point of view), and have since pushed him aside to work on others.

I'm having difficulty believing that a Gimli PF poses more design and production problems than, say, Lurtz or the Moria Orc. Sideshow has produced some truly amazing and intricate PFs recently, such as Blackbeard, so it's a little hard to understand how they can turn around and say that they're having production problems with arguably simpler characters like Kratos from God of War, or even Gimli.

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm having difficulty believing that a Gimli PF poses more design and production problems than, say, Lurtz or the Moria Orc. Sideshow has produced some truly amazing and intricate PFs recently, such as Blackbeard, so it's a little hard to understand how they can turn around and say that they're having production problems with arguably simpler characters like Kratos from God of War, or even Gimli.

Pssst, it's just an excuse.

I find it downright insulting for them to say that given that comparable work is being done on the new Dead PF. Next thing you know they'll be blaming collectors' lack of interest.

 

[The Josh]

Which just like other prototypes that never saw the light of day and there's a fair chance that a Gimli PF hasn't even made it too a full prototype. So that process can and does stop long before production and the SS answer pretty much sets the ground for just such an outcome.

Guess it depends on the POV you take.

 

[theguru1]

I'm having difficulty believing that a Gimli PF poses more design and production problems than, say, Lurtz or the Moria Orc. Sideshow has produced some truly amazing and intricate PFs recently, such as Blackbeard, so it's a little hard to understand how they can turn around and say that they're having production problems with arguably simpler characters like Kratos from God of War, or even Gimli.

I guess there just must be something about it they are finding hard to do, or hard to duplicate in production, which is were I really think the problem is. They did some costume tests and all that (since lets face it, the sculpt part is no big deal), and asked the factory about mass producing it and that's were the wall was hit.

Guess it depends on the POV you take.

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[DaveMac]

Gimli will be a prospective cash cow, and, once demand has reached fever pitch, he will suddenly be supplied !

But then again those little beard braids and trinkets and layers of costuming might be hard to re-create which is why you will probably never see a Jack Sparrow,sorry, CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow, PF

 

[FrodoEyes]

Q: Will we ever see a Gimli Premium Format? He would look amazing next to Aragorn and Legolas…

A:Yes, I do believe you’ll *eventually* see a Gimli PF….

 

[Blu Falcon]

There will NEVER be a Gimli PF.

 

[WrathofSauron]

You know it wouldn't surprise me if we have to wait a year or two more as that would bring us nicely up to (hopefully!!) The Hobbit and then my friends, dwarf mania will be rife!!!!

 

[DaveMac]

You know it wouldn't surprise me if we have to wait a year or two more as that would bring us nicely up to (hopefully!!) The Hobbit and then my friends, dwarf mania will be rife!!!!

Gimli may make an appearance then, but I doubt you will see half of the Dwarf's from the Hobbit (even if you crouch down ).

Still leaves Boromir, Sam, Merry and Pippin if Gimli does show up. But I'm done ordering outside of the Fellowship other than Smeagol/ Gollum unless we get some straight answering to fundamental questions such as 'Will we get the rest of the Fellowship in PF format?' (and I hope macaroni or paper mache models don't come into the response! )

 

[Seaward]

Gimli sounds like he is in the works, and I would imagine that Boromir would be in the pipeline too. Sam seems likely, but we haven't seen much in the Q&A about him. It's poor Merry and Pippin that need some PF love. I plan on asking questions about Boromir, Sam, and Merry and Pip in some variation about once a week until we see some response in the Q&A. Anybody care to join me?