EXO-6 Star Trek "General Discussion" 1/6 Line

[nanjin]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

These are all great choices. Georgiou is iconic, but I'm not sure which one - I think maybe mirror Georgiou in full Emperor's uni.... To be honest, from episode 1 of Disco, she was my favorite captain of any series. I think she would have made an incredible captain in a traditional trek show, we'll see how far down the rabbithole the Section 31 spinoff goes (I'm sort of over the time travel paradox laziness from the writers).

Tilly is a fantastic character, and would make a fantastic figure. She's adorably awkward and funny and nerdy, and I love how she isn't the perfect Starfleet graduate right out of the gate. However, she'd probably need her own body, which makes her much more expensive to produce, and I think maybe rooted hair would work better for her than sculpted.

Saru, likewise, I would think would need his own body, but he is certainly a unique and fun character and would make a huge hit as a figure.

Another good crossover character that I think could be released as a semi-standalone is Quark. Who doesn't need a bartender, or if you are waiting for Guinan, two bartenders!

Anyway, I think it's silly to get mad or badger EXO about what they are producing, at least they are producing something. Let Nanjin release whatever he thinks will make him enough money to stay in business and keep going. While he worked for QMx, it's not his job to clean up their poor management decisions or cater to anyone's demands about who to produce or when.

I actually think the one off releases from different shows will force people to evaluate the figure itself a little more. Like, I have no doubt people would have bought that terrible Chekov from QMx if they had released it, just to complete their crew, but the HS was so poor. In a situation where you might not get the whole gang, then I think you are more picky about what you want and why, and buying habits are a little different. That means each fig has to step it up to be worthy of a place in the collection, and that isn't a bad thing.


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I intended to change your view in your last sentence.

I intended to make any Trek figures as good as he or she can be, and put a smile on his or her owner. Furthermore, I want those who didn't collect with regrets and have to pay eBay pricing.

The above is what I want. I want to see lots of regrets.



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[davejames]

Would be pretty cool to have a Q and Trelane displayed together someday.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

I want those who didn't collect with regrets and have to pay eBay pricing.

I want to see lots of regrets.

Probably not the best long-term strategy.

 

[nanjin]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

I know, I love him. Nanjin's private collection (I assume these reside with him rather than at QMx in a dusty unused bin) is incredible. John de Lancie, yes please!

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I kept most if not all the good protos. I charged QMx AFTER I proto'd. I didn't even look at the budget they gave me. I cared less. I gave them the less than ideal proto to choose to reimburse.

I am the best and the worst employee for any company [emoji28]

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[nanjin]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

Probably not the best long-term strategy.

I don't have a long term strategy because 1/6 Trek is short lived comparing to Marvel or DC. I am retiring after 5 years or when 1/6 Trek accomplished what I expected. I told everyone in my venture this.

Knowing when to get off the stage is a must know before jumping in.

Trek can't last like any other franchises. I am in Business mode. I only have a Fan Boy attitude in development. The end of 1/6 Trek is foreseeable.

I already think this through ?under what condition will I let 1/6 Trek go.?

Clear, defined, and with a time limit.

Every plan needs this.

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[Wor-Gar]

I don't have a long term strategy... I am retiring after 5 years or when 1/6 Trek accomplished what I expected.

Knowing when to get off the stage is a must know before jumping in.

I am in Business mode. I only have a Fan Boy attitude in development. The end of 1/6 Trek is foreseeable.

I know future 10-year-older Koloth will be sorry to see you go.

So everyone here has a good five years to collect. Good to know. In 5 years, BCS has put out 6 Bond figures. No where near what I hoped for. That record should be easy to beat though.

 

[davejames]

As long as we get a TWOK Kirk and Spock somewhere in those 5 years, I'll be happy.

 

[nanjin]

As long as we get a TWOK Kirk and Spock somewhere in those 5 years, I'll be happy.

We aren't young. They will be out way before that.

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[Wor-Gar]

Nanjin, certainly you know this but I totally understand why you wouldn't want to offer the answer, however since we're on the subject of timelines and end dates... what is your best estimate on how many figures you hope to have produced in that 5 year window before retirement? Obviously, a million and one things can derail any estimate, as we've just experience for the last year and a half, but I'm curious on a good day what you would hope for.

 

[Asta]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

I don't have a long term strategy because 1/6 Trek is short lived comparing to Marvel or DC. I am retiring after 5 years or when 1/6 Trek accomplished what I expected. I told everyone in my venture this.

Knowing when to get off the stage is a must know before jumping in.

Trek can't last like any other franchises. I am in Business mode. I only have a Fan Boy attitude in development. The end of 1/6 Trek is foreseeable.

I already think this through ?under what condition will I let 1/6 Trek go.?

Clear, defined, and with a time limit.

Every plan needs this.

This brings it back to where I came in on this.

Trek is a different animal to the other great beasts such as Marvel, DC, Star Wars. It brings with it a different collecting mentality, at least to my own mind. It hasn't had the constant bombardment of series or films in recent years, and what series and films there have been are often separated by many in-universe years so that the stories are generational and many of the characters could never meet each other without time travel.

Where I came in:

The options for this line are so vast, what with multiple series and films, characters and their uniform variations...

This is probably why Trek fails in 1/6. It's had no long term lasting production. Every company is jumping back in and starting over, and having to pick from that vast range of characters and uniforms. I recall Nanjin saying something on the lines of Trek vs. Trek.

Nanjin, certainly you know this but I totally understand why you wouldn't want to offer the answer, however since we're on the subject of timelines and end dates... what is your best estimate on how many figures you hope to have produced in that 5 year window before retirement? Obviously, a million and one things can derail any estimate, as we've just experience for the last year and a half, but I'm curious on a good day what you would hope for.

This is key. Hot Toys frequently gets called out for failing to complete lines.

In five years what can be accomplished for 1/6 Trek? How many crews could be completed in matching uniforms? Will it just be two or three key figures from each important era?

We have to go through Kirk and Spock again, overlapping QMx's production, because that's what must be done each time a new company takes on the onus.

This has always been the challenge, and that's not to knock Nanjin's passion or abilities. It just seems to be the way of things. More so now that I see impatience everywhere in the collecting community. It's not just impatience, but anger that something hasn't happened yesterday. There have often been long waits for things, and the pandemic has obviously not helped.

We can dream about our most wanted iterations of our most wanted characters, and new companies taking on a 'neglected' license raise all kinds of hopes. The reality is very often quite different. Still waiting on quite a few Star Wars figures from Hot Toys that were teased years ago, and then passed over for more profitable, more timely production.

Over the years I've found it better not to dream too deeply, but just wait and see what occurs. Every now and then a figure comes up from some company or other that surprises you, and re-invigorates your collecting spirit again.

 

[davejames]

Yeah I try not to get my hopes up too high anymore when it comes to future figures, and simply buy whatever comes along that I think looks cool and worth owning.

 

[Asta]

Yeah I try not to get my hopes up too high anymore when it comes to future figures, and simply buy whatever comes along that I think looks cool and worth owning.

I know some people are very driven and very focused when it comes to certain characters and licenses, and will go out of their way to make things happen - sometimes through very expensive commissions or jumping onto expensive 'interest lists' for limited runs.

For me it's more like the reverse.

My collecting has always been a bit of everything, and I like the not knowing what might pop up on the 'New Product' page on the BBICN forum on a given day.

Now that the collection is pretty big I find I can be more choosy. It's now about finding things are different, fill gaps, or call out to nostalgia. I can dismiss a lot more figures now simply because they're similar to what I already have, and don't offer something significantly new.

 

[nanjin]

Nanjin, certainly you know this but I totally understand why you wouldn't want to offer the answer, however since we're on the subject of timelines and end dates... what is your best estimate on how many figures you hope to have produced in that 5 year window before retirement? Obviously, a million and one things can derail any estimate, as we've just experience for the last year and a half, but I'm curious on a good day what you would hope for.

I am looking at one or more figures per month as a whole.

There are series releases like TOS TNG Twok, and there is this incidental Trek character line that will release according to individual process timing (whenever we finish the needed works, we put the figure out), then lastly, there are ?incidental? series release like First Contact.

The easiest way for outsider to understand is this:

I will deal with each Trek series license as it's own license and market accordingly. This translates to I have 20+ different licenses to produce. Just that they are all Trek. The key to this strategy is because Trek vs Trek phenomenon.


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[TheClient]

TWOK Spock is my dream figure. I've wanted one since I was 8 years old, and would gladly pay a premium. And probably will, considering the intricate uniform.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I am looking at one or more figures per month as a whole.

Wow... that's 60 figures inside 5 years. That is ambitious. My uneducated guess would be half that with everything going well for 5 years.

Certainly, even at 30 figures, most people's dream figure has room to be made. It's those 3rd tier characters that may be few and far between, as expected.

But anywhere from 30-60 figures inside 5 years will be an impressive feat! Hoping the best for this line (lines).

 

[nanjin]

Re: EXO-6 "Star Trek" 1/6 Line

This brings it back to where I came in on this.

Trek is a different animal to the other great beasts such as Marvel, DC, Star Wars. It brings with it a different collecting mentality, at least to my own mind. It hasn't had the constant bombardment of series or films in recent years, and what series and films there have been are often separated by many in-universe years so that the stories are generational and many of the characters could never meet each other without time travel.

Where I came in:






This is key. Hot Toys frequently gets called out for failing to complete lines.

In five years what can be accomplished for 1/6 Trek? How many crews could be completed in matching uniforms? Will it just be two or three key figures from each important era?

We have to go through Kirk and Spock again, overlapping QMx's production, because that's what must be done each time a new company takes on the onus.

This has always been the challenge, and that's not to knock Nanjin's passion or abilities. It just seems to be the way of things. More so now that I see impatience everywhere in the collecting community. It's not just impatience, but anger that something hasn't happened yesterday. There have often been long waits for things, and the pandemic has obviously not helped.

We can dream about our most wanted iterations of our most wanted characters, and new companies taking on a 'neglected' license raise all kinds of hopes. The reality is very often quite different. Still waiting on quite a few Star Wars figures from Hot Toys that were teased years ago, and then passed over for more profitable, more timely production.

Over the years I've found it better not to dream too deeply, but just wait and see what occurs. Every now and then a figure comes up from some company or other that surprises you, and re-invigorates your collecting spirit again.

Remember HT has to make money.
I, myself, don't.

Howard Chan has a family to take care .
I don't.

HT wants to make its business last and will do anything to make themselves last.
I don't.

Because I have limited time.

I am a extremely realistic person.

I passed 50. Is no longer how much time I have.

Is How much Time I have Left.

Under the above, I go into 1/6 Trek. I sized this up very well.

Money is a grade in a report card for me.

I intended to make A LOT of money out of this to pamper my ego.

I am saying making a lot of money from selling EXO-6 business model, and I already have one offer.

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[nanjin]

Wow... that's 60 figures inside 5 years. That is ambitious. My uneducated guess would be half that with everything going well for 5 years.

Certainly, even at 30 figures, most people's dream figure has room to be made. It's those 3rd tier characters that may be few and far between, as expected.

But anywhere from 30-60 figures inside 5 years will be an impressive feat! Hoping the best for this line (lines).

Remember I don't need to make money for myself. I just need to make figure for myself. I am the representation of General Trek fans. Anything I like, some Trek fans will like. As long as my annual production meets my objective, I can make ANY figure at ANY quantity, even just 10.

Take this variable out from any Negotiation, no one can over take me in any situation. But I can control them easily, because I have Money to Sell, and this is what they want.

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[Kebron]

Wow... that's 60 figures inside 5 years.

Hmm each series averages about 7 main characters per show. Throw in TMP, TWOK, and the Kelvin universe. That's about 70 figs. I imagine some of the movie ones might be able to be separate outfits, if people aren't picky with wanting the exact head sculpt that matches a certain movie.

If I was to guess I'd bet TOS and TNG casts will get done. Everything else will probably be limited, so as to squeeze in some villains, and aliens.

 

[superdoug]

My eyes have ALL Trek. I can even just make 100 of Q if I want to.

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I am fine with that as long as I get one of the 100.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Data revealed in January... Picard revealed this month... that's 2 figure in 4 months so far. That's actually not too bad... and probably a more realistic pacing than 1 figure every month.

The last time I saw a figure released every month was Sideshow's original Star Wars line back in 2006... and I think that stopped after 6-8 months or so.

In Trek's case, perhaps the similarity of uniforms across same shows helps a bit.