The vibe I'm getting at this point is very similar to the one I had with Man of Steel, and both are cases where the creative folks took a totally inappropriate tone with a beloved comic character/team. I wonder if those aren't related issues. I mean, the FF as a "dark and gritty, brutal and realistic" film just doesn't make any sense on its surface. That's the antithesis of that team. Same with Superman. If the creative folks behind the films are so clueless as to what really makes those comics appeal to people, and what makes those characters tick, then it's not surprising to me that they would fumble their way through the movie, trying haphazardly to resolve the fantastic, hopeful, and often humorous aspects of the source with some kind of "grim and gritty," "modern" comic movie aesthetic that drives something like the Nolan Bat-films. Tim Story understood what was good about the FF. Unfortunately, he isn't a very good filmmaker. Singer understood Superman, is a good filmmaker, and made good comic movies! Unfortunately, he was too obsessed with sticking to the Donner films to do a really good Superman film. Hard to get these things right I suppose.