Favorite Superhero Movie of Summer 2012? (don't vote till you've seen em all please)

[thenammagazine]

A landmark defines an event that changes the game. You can't bottle the Avengers success. It made a ____ ton. That's an accomplishment, not a landmark.

30 years from now I think people will look on the Dark Knight trilogy as Nolan trying to do something with a comic series that had never been done before. I think the Avengers will be remembered as the film that made a lot of money. Neither of them will be considered landmarks.

It's a landmark comic book movie in and of itself. And you're wrong. Not only will it be remembered as the movie that proved Warner Brothers wrong, but it'll also be remembered and revered as the comic book movie Everest. Nobody thought it would work. It did. It's already set the gold standard and WB's running to catch up.

 

[TheGDBatman]

It's a landmark comic book movie in and of itself. And you're wrong. Not only will it be remembered as the movie that proved Warner Brothers wrong, but it'll also be remembered and revered as the comic book movie Everest. Nobody thought it would work. It did. It's already set the gold standard and WB's running to catch up.

It's already remembered as the biggest comedy ever. That's it. Avengers sucks as an actual movie (ducks)

 

[The Josh]

It's a landmark comic book movie in and of itself. And you're wrong. Not only will it be remembered as the movie that proved Warner Brothers wrong, but it'll also be remembered and revered as the comic book movie Everest. Nobody thought it would work. It did. It's already set the gold standard and WB's running to catch up.

You can tell it changed the game for WB and DC. They may never have gone after a JLA movie nor really known how to do it right if it wasn't for The Avengers. Marvel has laid down the road to success and now its up to WB/DC to not screw it up. You could tell as much from the Supes Panel at SDCC that the know they have a road ahead of them.

 

[wofford29]

It's a landmark comic book movie in and of itself. And you're wrong. Not only will it be remembered as the movie that proved Warner Brothers wrong, but it'll also be remembered and revered as the comic book movie Everest. Nobody thought it would work. It did. It's already set the gold standard and WB's running to catch up.

Why is it a landmark film already? Because it brought multiple heros together? Been done already. Because it had films that crossed over? Been done already. Because you think it's comic book Everest? This poll shows opinions don't agree. Nobody thought it would work? WB, maybe, although Mike was the one that kept saying that and the only proof he ever provided were out of context quotes about how it wouldnt work with the current Batman universe, which was absolutely correct. The fan base however foamed at the mouth for it. Gold standard? For an opening weekend.

In order for this to be a landmark film it's going to have to be a catalyst for the way things are done from here on out. It's not going to be.

 

[thenammagazine]

In order for this to be a landmark film it's going to have to be a catalyst for the way things are done from here on out. It's not going to be.

Time to put down the Magic 8 Ball. It's lying to you.

Did you miss Josh's post above regarding the MoS panel where he basically backed Mike's posts? Troll against Avengers all you want, it's not going to magically change the film's success. Asses in seats speak a hell of a lot more than the posts of a couple fanboys (meaning both of us).

 

[The Josh]

For the record with The Avengers motivating WB/DC to do a JLA movie with it kicking as much as as The Avengers then on man.

 

[wofford29]

Good answer Nam. Is this the same panel that the three Hobbit film news was refuted in?

Asses in seats means great success(period). As for trolling, no. I like Avengers, not 15 times in a theater like, but I like it. I think it's right behind Iron Man as Marvel's second best film.

 

[The Josh]

Good answer Nam. Is this the same panel that the three Hobbit film news was refuted in?

Asses in seats means great success(period). As for trolling, no. I like Avengers, not 15 times in a theater like, but I like it. I think it's right behind Iron Man as Marvel's second best film.

Actually, Jackson never said anything about the three films in the panel. He said it outside of the panel before or after the event. Also to be fair even at the time it was strictly rumor with it either being a possible third film or EE material. As far as my reaction to the rumor was I took it at he acknowledged it could happen but that it would probably be just EE stuff. I was wrong.

Now, being in the panel I can only say that how I took things. Basically, the way it came across was that the march to a JLA movie starts now with Supes (means his universe and the approach that movie takes). This is also why we're seeing a reboot of Batman so soon because they can't have what Nolan did with Bats in it (let's be honest his movies were not comic movies). You could also read between the lines in that they knew The Avengers changed the game in how quickly they had to get to a JLA movie. They're not even going to do a movie for each character before it lands. Outside of Supes and Batman the rest it sounds like will be shown within the JLA movie.

 

[tomandshell]

All I meant by "landmark" was a highlight of the genre. I think Avengers will be on the list of the best and most popular films in the comic book/superhero genre. X-Men and Fantastic Four were team films, but they weren't bringing together main characters who previously headlined their own solo films. It successfully combined the stars of multiple previous films, received widespread critical and commercial success and entered the cultural mainstream. I didn't mean to say it was unprecedented or completely innovative or game changing, just that it will go down as one of the noteworthy films in the genre in a way that others like Fantastic Four or Daredevil or Spider-Man 3 won't.

A city can have many landmarks that stand out amongst the skyline, that's what I had in mind with the word--not a catalyst that has rewritten the rules, but one of the noteworthy movies you'd see on a top ten list of comic book movies.

 

[wofford29]

I'd agree with that.

 

[devilof76]

Iron Man, Thor and Captain America (I'd include Incredible Hulk too) were good movies, but they were all too small. Avengers was the first one that was as big as I thought they should be, and in that respect, it was a landmark. It stood out, and you can see it for miles.

It was still the same basic quality as the individual movies. I think the Nolan Batman movies were of a higher quality than that. Not one of them contained the energy of Avengers, but what they lacked in action and humor, they more than made up for in depth of plot and characterization. The Batman trilogy was idea driven, and you rarely get that in comic books, let alone movies based on them.

 

[Viking Spawn]

Yeah, the Avengers will be something fans go to as a must watch comic book film for a long time. It helps because the world is staying tied together and because the films have flat out kicked ass.

Simply put, its the start of something alot bigger on the horizen! And me and a ton of other people will be riding this wave!

It's already remembered as the biggest comedy ever. That's it. Avengers sucks as an actual movie (ducks)

I want to add fuel to the fanboy war going on here:

All I meant by "landmark" was a highlight of the genre. I think Avengers will be on the list of the best and most popular films in the comic book/superhero genre. X-Men and Fantastic Four were team films, but they weren't bringing together main characters who previously headlined their own solo films. It successfully combined the stars of multiple previous films, received widespread critical and commercial success and entered the cultural mainstream. I didn't mean to say it was unprecedented or completely innovative or game changing, just that it will go down as one of the noteworthy films in the genre in a way that others like Fantastic Four or Daredevil or Spider-Man 3 won't.

A city can have many landmarks that stand out amongst the skyline, that's what I had in mind with the word--not a catalyst that has rewritten the rules, but one of the noteworthy movies you'd see on a top ten list of comic book movies.

 

[K07]

Iron Man, Thor and Captain America (I'd include Incredible Hulk too) were good movies, but they were all too small. Avengers was the first one that was as big as I thought they should be, and in that respect, it was a landmark. It stood out, and you can see it for miles.

It was still the same basic quality as the individual movies. I think the Nolan Batman movies were of a higher quality than that. Not one of them contained the energy of Avengers, but what they lacked in action and humor, they more than made up for in depth of plot and characterization. The Batman trilogy was idea driven, and you rarely get that in comic books, let alone movies based on them.

Cool post.

And what's this crap about Nolan's films not being comicbook movies? Are they based on characters and settings featured in comics? Yes? Ok then, they're comicbook movies. As the above quoted post shows, you don't have to cram so much action and humor into a film based on a comic character to make it work.

Remember how TDK lost (barely) in the poll last spring? Now TDKR is beating Avengers (barely). These polls aren't accurate. People just vote what is fresh. I knew that was the case then and it's most certainly the case now considering more people like TDK than they like TDKR and yet the lesser received Nolan film is beating out the movie that beat the better received Nolan film. I'd love to see this poll revisited a few years from now.

 

[intothevoid]

Cool post.

And what's this crap about Nolan's films not being comicbook movies? Are they based on characters and settings featured in comics? Yes? Ok then, they're comicbook movies. As the above quoted post shows, you don't have to cram so much action and humor into a film based on a comic character to make it work.

Remember how TDK lost (barely) in the poll last spring? Now TDKR is beating Avengers (barely). These polls aren't accurate. People just vote what is fresh. I knew that was the case then and it's most certainly the case now considering more people like TDK than they like TDKR and yet the lesser received Nolan film is beating out the movie that beat the better received Nolan film. I'd love to see this poll revisited a few years from now.

Yupp totally agree with devilof76's post too.

Also, no poll is perfect, and these nerd forum polls with their timings are especially flawed

This is the only poll out there that has anything approaching an unbiased gauge of public views as far as I'm concerned. Weighted and averaged out over time, and with a far broader audience.
https://www.imdb.com/chart/top

 

[Shai]

Avengers killed Batman.And Whedon will be remembered as the guy who put an end and buried all this Nolanverse crap.

 

[intothevoid]

Avengers killed Batman.And Whedon will be remembered as the guy who put an end and buried all this Nolanverse crap.

Nope, nope and nope.

Try again.

 

[Bullseye]

Avengers killed Batman.And Whedon will be remembered as the guy who put an end and buried all this Nolanverse crap.

LOL. But I wouldn't go that far.

 

[thenammagazine]

Given Avengers is already out of most theatres and only a measly 22 votes behind Nolan's brand new shiny Batman, I'd say that alone speaks volumes in what Avengers has accomplished and/or what TDKR has failed to.

 

[devilof76]

Hadn't occurred to you that they weren't attempting the same thing, huh?

Cool post.

And what's this crap about Nolan's films not being comicbook movies? Are they based on characters and settings featured in comics? Yes? Ok then, they're comicbook movies. As the above quoted post shows, you don't have to cram so much action and humor into a film based on a comic character to make it work.

Thanks.

But I was the person who said they weren't comic book movies. In the most stripped down terms, comics are written for kids---the Batman trilogy requires a longer attention span than most kids are willing to expend. Doesn't mean they can't, or that they're incapable of liking the films to the extent that they're able to digest them, but compared to the Avengers, Nolan's Batman is not accessible.

 

[floreairfoot]

Given Avengers is already out of most theatres and only a measly 22 votes behind Nolan's brand new shiny Batman, I'd say that alone speaks volumes in what Avengers has accomplished and/or what TDKR has failed to.

We've got a major team-up of Marvel superheroes against one DC character and you think it's a failure that TDKR "only" got 20 more votes?

How is that logical?