Bamboota
Super Freak
I dunno...I think u guys should all just stop whinning and let people do whatever they wanna do with they're figures. 
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devilof76
Super Freak
They can do whatever they want with what's theirs. If they're going to act like an entitled douche when trying to buy someone else's, they can suck it.
EVILFACE
Insufferable S.O.B.
Agree.
I've had lower offers on stuff I sell and have made lower offers on stuff others had for sale. It will be that way forever with anything you are selling/buying. If you don't like the offer, tell em so. If they are a douche about it, fauk em.
devilof76
Super Freak
Exactly. It's a two-way street and people should just learn to respect the other side of the transaction.
A buyer wants to get it for less just as much as the seller would like to get more for it. Neither one has an obligation to screw themself over for the other one's sake.
A buyer wants to get it for less just as much as the seller would like to get more for it. Neither one has an obligation to screw themself over for the other one's sake.
jonny88
Super Freak
what are you talking about? why are you mentioning ebay auctions when l said l will never sell my stuff on ebay and never have.
you are just being a ____ because l miss spelled a couple words, that's because l don't have spell check or the red line under a misspelled word since l got a new Laptop.
jonny88
Super Freak
I dunno...I think u guys should all just stop whinning and let people do whatever they wanna do with they're figures.
there are two kinds of flipping.
Example. someone bought the Lurtz EX PF when he was released from Sideshow for $350. now lets say he wants to sell him. he can easily sell him for $550. the seller will make $200, that's flipping. the seller made a profit. that's fine in my opinion because the figure has a high demand now.
Example 2. people who would by the Lurtz EX for the $550, then relist him here or ebay for $900-$1000, that's flipping that pisses me off. but they can do what they want. if people buy from them and are happy with their purchase, then all the power to both parties.
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Bamboota
Super Freak
I spose ur right there.
galactiboy
OT Preferist
I feel the same way... I don't mind offers, and I'll respond to even ridiculous ones even if its just to say "no way". When I make offers I generally don't go too crazy as I will respect a sellers intelligence, but sometimes 10% or free shipping is a nice way to sweeten the deal on both sides.
Now if someone asked to change terms after a deal was made that's a different story. Once something is agreed upon its essentially a contract in my mind, but sadly not everyone is the same way.
As for eBay completed auctions... those are good for guidelines, but its a bit silly to ask for full eBay prices as on a message board when you are not paying the same fees. Generally I figure about 90% of the going eBay rate is fair.
Kabukiman
Greatest Person Ever
As a seller, I have two standard replies to lowball answers:
"Thanks for your interest, but I'm asking for $xxx.xx. I'll keep your offer in mind though!
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and
"
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As a buyer, I don't even bother sending PM's if the item is out of my price range.
It's served me well so far.
"Thanks for your interest, but I'm asking for $xxx.xx. I'll keep your offer in mind though!
"and
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"As a buyer, I don't even bother sending PM's if the item is out of my price range.
It's served me well so far.
Darth Cruel
Super Freak
I have not had this experience yet. But I hope to someday as I love dealing with flipper scum.
That's what we're saying. However, if someone wanted to put the same price here as they have on ebay, I don't see the problem. They probably won't sell it. But, if they do, that's between them and the buyer.
Fair only comes into play if you're trying to pull a fast one over on someone, or if you have something they want and you use that to manipulate them into a ridiculous price. If something's going on ebay for $1k and you come here asking for the same, how is that silly? What gives any of us the right to demand the sellers price be ebay minus fees? Generally, I try to sell that way, but the next guy might not. Either his stuff will sell or it won't. The one freedom we get with capitalism is to choose not to buy from one guy and elect to do so from the next. Selling this stuff doesn't become charity when it hits the forum IMO, not to put too fine a point on it.
As a seller, I have two standard replies to lowball answers:
"Thanks for your interest, but I'm asking for $xxx.xx. I'll keep your offer in mind though!
and
"
As a buyer, I don't even bother sending PM's if the item is out of my price range.
It's served me well so far.
Ditto.
BadMoon
Demi G0D Overseer
Never understood the hate for flippers myself. Who cares?
You are flipped to every day. Whether it be your double down or those statues you buy from Sideshow. I'm sure the mark up is well over what they paid for said items. They then turn around and flip that ____ for a profit. How dare they!
You are flipped to every day. Whether it be your double down or those statues you buy from Sideshow. I'm sure the mark up is well over what they paid for said items. They then turn around and flip that ____ for a profit. How dare they!
The Ringer
Super Freak
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People think making money is wrong and the work of the devil.
People think making money is wrong and the work of the devil.
mr.thrifty
Super Freak
Making money off other people is wrong...............unless "other people" means a government check.......
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People think making money is wrong and the work of the devil.
So there's one...
Unfortunately this kind of attitude (anything is fair in the name of making money) is exactly what sours people on forums like this. People who are only out for themselves or to take advantage of others. I'd do away with the Marketplace all together, but for a site like this it's pretty much a necessity. I wish it could be collectors helping other collectors, and it used to be that - but with growth comes the weeds.
Mesa
Super Freak
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People think making money is wrong and the work of the devil.
Today they do. Didn't used to be that way, as it was "The American Dream." Now you're considered a bad guy if you're successful and someone else is somehow entitled to what you've worked hard to earn.
F'n liberal hippies.
How would you qualify that? Selling something for what the market deems it's worth is bad if it's significantly above the original retail price? I think it's respectable thing to see people sell stuff at a big discount to something like ebay because they want to pass something on to appreciative collectors. But, should we point at someone selling a HT Elder Predator for $800 and say they're taking advantage of people who could easily look at ebay and previous sales threads here and see if they're getting a reasonable deal or not?
If it's flippers who buy with every intent to sell at a huge profit that's the problem, are we assuming every collector is entitled to his or her number in the limited edition count? I would agree there's some sub par morality at work here. But, to say that is the spirit that ruins these forums may be somewhat nearsighted. It is part of the nature of this hobby, and regardless of if this forum exists or not, will continue to be so. The limited nature of these things gives them value, and so there will be collectors and there will be investors. The only way to protect the purity of such a thing as this site, is to (as you said) remove the marketplace and the service it provides as an alternative to ebay and a way to aquire items that may not come up often. Items that have had the care and respect given to them that only like-minded collectors have.
I've watched lots of really sought after stuff sell here for insane prices, and I'm thinking to myself that these people have more money than sense. But, that buyer may well be giddy with excitement at having this piece they didn't think they'd ever get. So, what's the metric by which we judge these sellers? Are we assuming all buyers are uninformed children having their proverbial candy taken away? Personally I appreciate the forum rules regarding the marketplace. Sellers are generally respected regardless of their bargains, and Jen keeps things running smoothly. Personally, I find this boards marketplace to be a reflection of its leadership and the members, which IMO sheds a positive light on this community. As with any purchase, we are not required to buy.
Plain and simple, if it's a ripoff, move on to the next. This, being a luxury I wish we had with gasoline.
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mr.thrifty
Super Freak
Wow Dave.... I don't see the "taking advantage" part happening on here.. we're all free to either sell or not to as we please.. if someone decides to do either it was by their own choice.....
You make $$$ from this forum don't you? affiliate links and such...is that wrong for you to do? this place takes $$$ and your time to keep going strong, so why would it be bad for you to make a profit off of all of us? you have provided a service that we desire......
Assuming there is profit at the end of the day. You make a good point though. If all the sudden he could retire from this forum's income, which part of that falls under collectors helping collectors?
My dentist drives a porche, therefore he is overcharging me. Otherwise he'd only drive a Ford Focus. Man, we could go into all sorts of economical politics here. Socialism vs capitalism and the likes. God help us if it goes that far...
My dentist drives a porche, therefore he is overcharging me. Otherwise he'd only drive a Ford Focus. Man, we could go into all sorts of economical politics here. Socialism vs capitalism and the likes. God help us if it goes that far...
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