Neal136
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Or, perhaps they'll find a way to keep the team together:
Sources: Kevin Durant willing to take less than max to keep Warriors' core intact
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Or, perhaps they'll find a way to keep the team together:
Sources: Kevin Durant willing to take less than max to keep Warriors' core intact
Of course he says that now. He hasn't won the championship yet. Think he should wait until it's over..his agent might think otherwise
Couple more years of this and I'm done. No talent even close in the league to dismantle the Warriors. The only other super team can't get it done..... winters will be mighty boring after the madness ends
You know that Lebron wants desperately to lash out against the unfairness of KD and Curry being on this super team together, when even without Durant that team was nearly unbeatable. But of course. . .he can't because of Miami.
Never said he wasn't a great player. Just had to jump ship to win a ring. That's what I HATE most about today's NBA. Superstars are bailing out on talented teams to make it easier to win rings. It's not about competing for a ring, it's about the path of least resistance to a championship.
I think next season the NBA is going to lose a lot of the viewers especially in the playoffs if the Eastern Conference doesn't get better
How is the East going to get better? Who's going to beat GS in the West next year? The NBA is a joke.
Ain't that the truth.
It doesn't help that no true superstar wants to play in Cleveland. GS is going to be king of the hill for years to come and the Cavs will be their fodder unless some serious changes are made to their roster. It's a 2 team League either way. It's just a matter of which of the 2 will win.
As long as Pop doesn't retire, I think SA is only a couple of pieces away from really challenging GS. I think Leonard is the 2nd best player in the world, and at this stage in their careers, is a much better defender than Lebron on a guy like KD. Bos can easily get much better if they trade that #1 pick. I assume Cavs will TRY to dump a lot guys for bigger defenders since defense has been their biggest issue all year.
The Spurs are a good team and Leonard is a fantastic player but they are more than 1 or 2 players away. It's an older roster that needs younger talent. GS is in their prime and going no where any time soon.
The salary cap is the only thing that will break up Golden State
3 of 8...no it's not a new Star Trek character, it's going to be LeBron's record in the Finals (1 of 10 if he hadnt had 2 MIRACLE finishes)...
Think about that for a moment. He was a hair away from being 1-9 in the Finals....
Think about that for a moment. He was a hair away from being 1-9 in the Finals....
When I was in high school people thought McGrady was better than Kobe
He might have been at times. Kobe was better for much longer though.
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That makes sense. The thing is that people have been doing what KD did for years. Karl Malone and GP joining the Lakers. LeBron, Wade, Bosh. KG, Ray Allen joining the Celtics. Drexler and Barkley to the Rockets. Shaq, Gasol, to the Lakers.
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Shawpaw
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By chance, what would you predict OKC's record be this past year without Westbrook?
Russell may have been a factor in the decision. I put more blame on Sam presit (GM) who absolutly adores white, unathletic guys. He didn't build the team he was supposed to and let everyone go. He is untouchable in terms of his ability to draft players (Westbrook, KD, Ibaka, Harden, Jackson, etc), but his management of the franchise sucks. He got rid of Brooks, which is a big reason KD left.
I think next season the NBA is going to lose a lot of the viewers especially in the playoffs if the Eastern Conference doesn't get better
I think so too. People just aren't as engaged. One dumb thing I read was that the hashtag #NBAFinals is used MUCH less frequently on social media over the past two years.
If I wanted to win a ring in the next 2 years, I would sign with GS too. KD was minutes away from the finals against CLE last year. Had he left someone like Pheonix, I'd understand. But he had a team built around him and just left to a team that was already stacked. I love hearing what veteran players think of him now lol
And unfortunately ESPN and others are just going to keep pumping GS into the spotlight, having topics such as "greatest ever?" etc. It's terrible for the game IMO. That's why NFL, MLB, NHL are better in terms of overall sport.
DinoDB1975
Super Freak
So much to catch up to! Some random thoughts/replies.
Hi jstep, back for the annual LeBron bashing.
I kid, I kid.
No excuses, Golden State is simply a better team. LeBron is the best player on the court (Kevin Durant is a close second), but he can't guard all five positions at once or play the entire game. Cleveland's margin or error is so small that they almost have to play the perfect game. They are competitive until half time/the start of the third quarter, but a few defensive miscues/long rebounds not secured and the Dubs have run off seven/eight points before you know it.
GS added Kevin Durant, arguably the second best player in professional basketball, to a 72 win team. Cleveland added...Deron Williams? Golden State is by far the better team.
That would be impressive, because since the Cavs won the championship last year, the ten straight without winning a championship streak would have to start this year.
So that means LeBron would be playing in the finals until 2026, when he's 41!
His Game 1 turnovers (eight) were horrible. Did a much better job last night..."only" four turnovers; still too many, but countered with a 29-11-14 triple double while shooting 66% from the floor.
jstep is a longtime poster in the NBA thread, and he's cool with me, so we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I will say that neither Kyrie Irving nor Kevin Love played in the play offs with their respective teams before LeBron.
I see Grimlock beat me to it (my favorite Dinobot, by the way).
No Warriors hate, mostly hate on KD. And some eye rolling at Joe Lacob saying the Warriors organization are "light years" ahead of other organizations. And for those that argue that KD did the same thing LBJ did when he first left Cleveland for Miami, it's the same...but different. It's the same in that both players exercised the rights as a free agent to go to whatever team they felt fit them better professionally...but different in the context. Fairly or not, Kevin Durant is looked at as joining the team he couldn't beat when he was up 3-1 on them. LeBron didn't join the Celtics, who eliminated the Cavs the season before he joined Miami.
From one of Shea Serrano's articles: "The third-greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Reggie Miller hit what would become the game winner in Game 4 of the 1998 Bulls-Pacers series and then ran about 75 feet. The second-greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Eddie Johnson hit that buzzer-beater in Game 4 of the 1997 Jazz-Rockets series and then ran about 85 feet. And the greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Kevin Durant lost in the 2016 playoffs to the Warriors and then ran about 1,400 miles to join them in Oakland the next season."
Ouch.
Well, we have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. A lot of analysts thought McGrady had the potential to be better than Kobe.
Not when it's reported that KD would be willing to take less to stay with the Warriors.
Hi jstep, back for the annual LeBron bashing.
I kid, I kid.
No excuses, Golden State is simply a better team. LeBron is the best player on the court (Kevin Durant is a close second), but he can't guard all five positions at once or play the entire game. Cleveland's margin or error is so small that they almost have to play the perfect game. They are competitive until half time/the start of the third quarter, but a few defensive miscues/long rebounds not secured and the Dubs have run off seven/eight points before you know it.
GS added Kevin Durant, arguably the second best player in professional basketball, to a 72 win team. Cleveland added...Deron Williams? Golden State is by far the better team.
That would be impressive, because since the Cavs won the championship last year, the ten straight without winning a championship streak would have to start this year.
So that means LeBron would be playing in the finals until 2026, when he's 41!
His Game 1 turnovers (eight) were horrible. Did a much better job last night..."only" four turnovers; still too many, but countered with a 29-11-14 triple double while shooting 66% from the floor.
jstep is a longtime poster in the NBA thread, and he's cool with me, so we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I will say that neither Kyrie Irving nor Kevin Love played in the play offs with their respective teams before LeBron.
I see Grimlock beat me to it (my favorite Dinobot, by the way).
No Warriors hate, mostly hate on KD. And some eye rolling at Joe Lacob saying the Warriors organization are "light years" ahead of other organizations. And for those that argue that KD did the same thing LBJ did when he first left Cleveland for Miami, it's the same...but different. It's the same in that both players exercised the rights as a free agent to go to whatever team they felt fit them better professionally...but different in the context. Fairly or not, Kevin Durant is looked at as joining the team he couldn't beat when he was up 3-1 on them. LeBron didn't join the Celtics, who eliminated the Cavs the season before he joined Miami.
From one of Shea Serrano's articles: "The third-greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Reggie Miller hit what would become the game winner in Game 4 of the 1998 Bulls-Pacers series and then ran about 75 feet. The second-greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Eddie Johnson hit that buzzer-beater in Game 4 of the 1997 Jazz-Rockets series and then ran about 85 feet. And the greatest distance ever covered in celebration was when Kevin Durant lost in the 2016 playoffs to the Warriors and then ran about 1,400 miles to join them in Oakland the next season."
Ouch.
When I was in high school people thought McGrady was better than Kobe
Well, we have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. A lot of analysts thought McGrady had the potential to be better than Kobe.
Not when it's reported that KD would be willing to take less to stay with the Warriors.
DinoDB1975
Super Freak
3 of 8...no it's not a new Star Trek character, it's going to be LeBron's record in the Finals (1 of 10 if he hadnt had 2 MIRACLE finishes)...
Think about that for a moment. He was a hair away from being 1-9 in the Finals....
Dude, you had the perfect opportunity for a LeBron receding hairline joke...
We think alike.
Well, Malone and GP were at the end of their careers. KG and Ray Allen were both traded to the Celts. Now, I'm sure the fact that Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge were former teammates might have had something to do with KG being sent to Boston instead of somewhere else...I seem to remember reading their was another deal on the table were the principals were KG and A'mare Stoudamire being traded.
Same as Drexler and Barkley, both were traded, as were Shaq and Gasol.
The Gasol deal looks better now, years later, since Marc Gasol has developed, but the initial Pau Gasol for Kwame' Brown (with Marc Gasol thrown in) deal was a steal for LA. They got two championships out of it.
I'm no Warriors fan and I don't look forward to the next few years. It raises the question about them being one of the greatest dynasties in league history if the they continue dominating the league.
They aren't simply winning games they are heads and shoulders above anyone else. Not many teams can claim to be that dominant over a span of years should their run actually materialize.
Folks will use the same argument they due with Lebron about league talent. I don't agree with it 100% and even if I did......it wasn't given to them they had to earn it
LeBron basically started, or at least, popularized this super team garbage, twice. Another team finally beat him at his own game. He has no one to blame but himself. If he had stayed in Cle the first time and won the right way, the league wouldn't be in the mess it's in now.
Jstep hate remains strong 
I think Celtics "super team" Garnett, Pierce, Allen and Rondo started it. Lebron needed a super team to beat them because it wasn't happening in Cle
I think Celtics "super team" Garnett, Pierce, Allen and Rondo started it. Lebron needed a super team to beat them because it wasn't happening in Cle
Jstep hate remains strong
I think Celtics "super team" Garnett, Pierce, Allen and Rondo started it. Lebron needed a super team to beat them because it wasn't happening in Cle
Nope, I would say Houston and LAL started it even before them - it was almost a Sideshow act when they did it. But like I wrote, Lebron popularized it, and dare I say "cool", thanks to his asinine announcement. The league took notice and the rest is history.
Thanks LeBron.
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