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[Devil_666]

Direct quotes from that youtube clip.
"STOP LOSS is a soldier movie."
"G.I.Joe has nothing to do with that. G.I.Joe is what it's like to be an action figure."

Nowhere in the interview clip does it use the word cartoon or is it said that this movie is based on the cartoon.

Ok it's based on the toy line then. Which is even worse, because if that's the case then what "mythology" should Joseph Gordon-Levitt "respect" exactly when it comes to a plastic toy!?

As far as the comics, yeah I understand that aspect. I understand fans wanted to see the characters depicted like that/a story like that. I get it. But that has nothing to do with my original post or the post I was responding to bro. You're assuming it does, and hence the arguement/debate.

 

[DarthNeil]

Ok it's based on the toy line then. Which is even worse, because if that's the case then what "mythology" should Joseph Gordon-Levitt "respect" exactly when it comes to a plastic toy!?

As far as the comics, yeah I understand that aspect. I understand fans wanted to see the characters depicted like that/a story like that. I get it. But that has nothing to do with my original post or the post I was responding to bro. You're assuming it does, and hence the arguement/debate.

If you're making a movie and you're an artist (ie a Heath Ledger) you don't phone it in. You research the role. You dive into the character. How has Joseph Gordon-Levitt done that?... That's what was upsetting for lazy_dane, who might be a junior member with only one post but he makes an incredibly valid point which I'm defending. The Joker has been a toy. The Joker has been on lunch boxes. Should Heath Ledger have dismissed him as a clown? G.I. Joe being a toy or a cartoon is at its lowest common denominator-- The comic at its best is so much more than that-- And these filmmakers (and I'll use that term loosely) and actors who view it as a giant commercial will put on the screen exactly what they put into it... And it'll be a big nothing when it could have been a big something.

I understand that you were commenting on the overreacting to a silly cartoon. I hope that you can see where I'm coming from as well.

 

[Devil_666]

If you're making a movie and you're an artist (ie a Heath Ledger) you don't phone it in. You research the role. You dive into the character. How has Joseph Gordon-Levitt done that?... That's what was upsetting for lazy_dane, who might be a junior member with only one post but he makes an incredibly valid point which I'm defending. The Joker has been a toy. The Joker has been on lunch boxes. Should Heath Ledger have dismissed him as a clown? G.I. Joe being a toy or a cartoon is at its lowest common denominator-- The comic at its best is so much more than that-- And these filmmakers (and I'll use that term loosely) and actors who view it as a giant commercial will put on the screen exactly what they put into it... And it'll be a big nothing when it could have been a big something.

I understand that you were commenting on the overreacting to a silly cartoon. I hope that you can see where I'm coming from as well.

Absolutely. I see your point. And I agree.. that movie (and others) could've been so much more had they went in a different direction. Take any serious, top notch soldier flick, replace the characters with G.I. Joe characters and the movie could've been THAT. Instead.. this new G.I. Joe movie is simply more advertisement to sell merchandise.

But you have to understand (using your example) that Heath Ledger was involved in Chris Nolan's vision of Batman. His performance is a direct result of Chris' vision + the script. It's not like Ledger would've given the same performance or had the same take on the character if he were cast as the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman or any of the Batman movies from Joel Schumacher. Because those directors would not have wanted that TDK version of the character. So they would've steered his performance. Which is what directors do. And vice versa: you really think Chris Nolan would've accepted Heath Ledger's portrayal of a campy, superfriends type of Joker? Cuz I don't. Nolan had a specific vision of what he wanted the Joker to be like in his vision of Batman. He even gave out "The Killing Joke" as reference of what he was trying to accomplish. Now from what I understand Heath didn't read it.. but I'm sure he understood what Nolan was going for.

I guarantee if Joseph Gordon-Levitt would've attempted to portray Cobra Commander like in the comic he would've been told by small-in-the-pants Stephen Sommers "This isn't the direction we're going with The Doctor".

 

[Bloodsport]

This had the possiblity of being one of the greatest movie ever made but the ^^^^^^^ filmmmakers decide to make a dumb summer movie. the cartoon and the comic was very serious. Sure cartoon had some hokey moments but it was serious man.

 

[IrishJedi]

Uh, the cartoon was never serious. Certainly not nearly as much as Hama's comics. Hell, no one ever even died in the cartoon and it had an episode where Snake Eyes dresses up in drag and breakdances for crissakes.

 

[IrishJedi]

Ok it's based on the toy line then. Which is even worse, because if that's the case then what "mythology" should Joseph Gordon-Levitt "respect" exactly when it comes to a plastic toy!?

They should be respecting the mythology and characters that Larry Hama created for the card files and Marvel comic series.

 

[Devil_666]

They should be respecting the mythology and characters that Larry Hama created for the card files and Marvel comic series.

You mean the same Larry Hama who was a creative consultant for this piece of crap film?

https://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/...ent-for-gi-joe-movie-promises-films-producer/

According to di Bonaventura, Hama’s endorsement gave him the most important sign of all…that they were treating the fan-favorite series with the respect it deserved. “More than anything it gave us a lot of feeling of alright, we’re on the right track,” he said. “The godfather giving us the thumb’s up.”

Not to mention the file cards you're talking about don't apply specifically for CC because:

^^^That describes Cobra Commander. Not "The Doctor" depicted in the G.I. Joe movie.

 

[EVILFACE]

Larry is a consultant. They may listen to his suggestions, but that doesn't mean they with do them.

Damnn straight Cobra Commander isn't in the movie. Neither is Destro, Ripcord, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow. . .

 

[DarthNeil]

Larry is a consultant. They may listen to his suggestions, but that doesn't mean they with do them.

Damnn straight Cobra Commander isn't in the movie. Neither is Destro, Ripcord, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow. . .

The Baroness' backside is in the movie but that's about it.

 

[Darth Waller]

The Baroness' backside is in the movie but that's about it.

 

[IrishJedi]

You mean the same Larry Hama who was a creative consultant for this piece of crap film?

https://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/...ent-for-gi-joe-movie-promises-films-producer/

Yes. And the only one of his suggestions that they apparently listened to was him nixing the idea of having Snake Eyes talk (he did in the original script).

The rest of the crap in this thing couldn't be any further away from anything Hama has ever done with JOE.

Not to mention the file cards you're talking about don't apply specifically for CC because:

^^^That describes Cobra Commander. Not "The Doctor" depicted in the G.I. Joe movie.

And "The Doctor" is revealed to be Cobra Commander at the end of the movie. What exactly is your point?

 

[thenammagazine]

Yes. And the only one of his suggestions that they apparently listened to was him nixing the idea of having Snake Eyes talk (he did in the original script).

The rest of the crap in this thing couldn't be any further away from anything Hama has ever done with JOE.




And "The Doctor" is revealed to be Cobra Commander at the end of the movie. What exactly is your point?

I read that whole exchange and decided against inserting logic. Slap fights are fun.

 

[Shai]

Welkome back the Nam..

A ban is a Rite of passage here.Welkome to the Sideshow Freak Bad Ass Club..

 

[thenammagazine]

Welkome back the Nam..

A ban is a Rite of passage here.Welkome to the Sideshow Freak Bad Ass Club..

Thanks!

 

[Sixthscalemagazine]

We're talking about G.I. Joe right? The cartoon. The kids cartoon, right? Kids cartoons have a "mythology" now!? Adjust your tin foil hat, son.

 

[Khev]

Stephen Sommers chose the epic fail Batman & Robin approach because when he's finished making another one of his patently horrible popcorn movies he can use the excuse "but we were just having fun making a movie about a silly toy/cartoon." The actors are obviously on board 100%. He can't make a good movie. It just isn't an option for him. All he can do is make excuses. Hasbro should have known better. I hope they lose a fortune.

 

[Devil_666]

And "The Doctor" is revealed to be Cobra Commander at the end of the movie. What exactly is your point?

What part don't you get!? The file card describes Cobra Commander. In that POS movie, "The Doctor" (ugh..) doesn't become CC until the end of the movie. It's an orgin movie. And if you still don't get my point, it's like YOU complaining that a pre-spider bite Peter Parker isn't acting like a "file card" description for Spider Man i.e. swinging from webs and catching criminals. Yeah.. he doesn't do all that UNTIL he's Spider Man. That file card description for CC doesn't apply to the gayness of the movie because "The Doctor" hasn't come into power yet and isn't the CC we all know. Yet.

Will he become that? He should.. but it'll never happen in a Stephen Sommers movie, unfortunately.

 

[EVILFACE]

Welkome back the Nam..

A ban is a Rite of passage here.Welkome to the Sideshow Freak Bad Ass Club..

Was he banned? Ha, funny

 

[IrishJedi]

What part don't you get!? The file card describes Cobra Commander. In that POS movie, "The Doctor" (ugh..) doesn't become CC until the end of the movie. It's an orgin movie. And if you still don't get my point, it's like YOU complaining that a pre-spider bite Peter Parker isn't acting like a "file card" description for Spider Man i.e. swinging from webs and catching criminals. Yeah.. he doesn't do all that UNTIL he's Spider Man. That file card description for CC doesn't apply to the gayness of the movie because "The Doctor" hasn't come into power yet and isn't the CC we all know. Yet.

Gonna make this a little more clear: Cobra Commander was never a "Doctor" of any kind (or some dork named Rex who once fought with Duke) who creates "nano-mites". Never EVER. Nothing about the character... or his back-story... was anywhere close to that. Until this crap film. Hence Neil's post about the movie abandoning the original ARAH characters and mythos, which you started disputing for some reason. Now your argument has become circular.

 

[Devil_666]

Gonna make this a little more clear: Cobra Commander was never a "Doctor" of any kind (or some dork named Rex who once fought with Duke) who creates "nano-mites". Never EVER. Nothing about the character... or his back-story... was anywhere close to that. Until this crap film.

I think everyone understands that. But thanks for pointing it out.

Hence Neil's post about the movie abandoning the original ARAH characters and mythos, which you started disputing for some reason. Now your argument has become circular.

Learn to read instead of skimming over stuff and then blindly reacting. I wasn't disagreeing with Neil. The problem was were talking about two different things: I was talking about the cartoon and Neil was talking about the comics.