GI Joe: Rise of Cobra Discussion and Reviews [SPOILERS]

[jye4ever]

This movie hit the perfect tone of retarded cartoon action. Is it a great movie? No, but I can't imagine a better G.I. Joe movie.

It's not a matter of high expectations or low expectations, it's a matter of appropriate and reasonable expectations.

Any movie which has the balls to include a scene where the good guy (Duke) shows up to a funeral riding a motorcycle in the pouring rain while wearing sun glasses in that pouring rain, is an Oscar winner for me.

Batman and Robin, Superman 4 and Catwoman were dumb souless movies which had zero Fun and Excitement, GI Joe was also a dumb movie but one with a soul very much alive with lots of Fun and Excitement!

As a kid, I never ran around whipping out my Bat credit card, never leave home without it....har har Joel Schnurmacher...

GI Joe movie was me blowing up my toys all coming to life right in front of me up on the big screen! Maybe not GI toys but I sure banged up lots of other ones similar to army dudes.

 

[Mesa]

I thought the movie was fine, good even. I didn't like the twist with the Baroness and told my buddy "lame" when it started to unfold, but other than that, I was entertained the whole time.

 

[IrishJedi]

Stupid GI Joe movie, why couldn't I have hated it like I did Superman IV and Batman and Robin.....now I want the godamn 1/6 scale Sideshow Snake Eyes on my damn shelf!

Wait... it took this POS movie to make you interested in Sideshow's awesome 1:6 JOE figure(s)? It's official, you are from Opposite World.

 

[CelticPredator]

Or not a Joe fan.

 

[IrishJedi]

By the way, with the movie making $52 million this weekend we're all but guaranteed a sequel.

Also guaranteed it'll be even worse, because Sommers' sequels and spin-offs are increasingly more retarded than the originals. He'll be unrestrained, like Bay with TF2. Brace yourselves.

 

[CelticPredator]

I cant wait.

I want more Commander, and Zartan.

 

[IrishJedi]

Or not a Joe fan.

Well, yeah, that's the obvious answer. But my crack was more fun.

 

[rabidwolverine21]

The organization isn't Cobra yet in the movie. That's why it's called the Rise of Cobra. The troops aren't Cobra troops yet either, they are MARS troopers under the command of James McCullen/Destro hence, the helmets/masks are modeled after the McCullen iron mask.

i meant the commander i actually thought the troops looked badass army of two style. cobra commander was for me just gay

 

[IrishJedi]

I cant wait.

I want more Commander, and Zartan.

Even if I really, really liked this one I wouldn't have that confidence assuming that Sommers returns. His career thus far shows that his best efforts come the first time he handles subject matter. After that, as I said, his movies are increasingly dumb and laughable. Examples A & B: THE MUMMY RETURNS and VAN HELSING.

But even without those examples, I highly doubt he'll find the rosetta stone and become a good filmmaker between now and then. Get hopes up at your own risk.

 

[CelticPredator]

He has the potiental. Deep Rising and The Mummy are great films. Fun, and entertaining. If he just focuses on actors, and acting....then maybe....

I dont care if they get someone else, but they HAVE to recast Channing.

 

[IrishJedi]

He has the potiental. Deep Rising and The Mummy are great films. Fun, and entertaining. If he just focuses on actors, and acting....then maybe....

I dont care if they get someone else, but they HAVE to recast Channing.

Yeah, Channing Tatum is bad. Just awful. But they won't recast him. It'd take a contract dispute or a reboot to actually have a good Duke. I mean, this guy is so horrid he actually made Marlon Wayans tolerable in a comedic sidekick role.

 

[GuruAskew]

I highly doubt he'll find the rosetta stone and become a good filmmaker between now and then.

You think he would be making "G.I. Joe" movies if he was a good filmmaker?

 

[CelticPredator]

I didnt mind Waynes. I could live with him, seeing as he isnt the main hero.

The line that made me cringe was when he was talking to Doctor Rex...

"Who are you."

It wasnt a question...it was a statement. There wasnt a reason for him to ask that....and if there was...he really couldnt give a ^^^^.

How he should've said it.

Who...who are you?

But eh. I'll probably see it again. It was quite entertaining.

 

[CelticPredator]

You think he would be making "G.I. Joe" movies if he was a good filmmaker?

Hehe.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

I didnt mind Channing at all. Im prolly the only one tho haha.

 

[CelticPredator]

I didnt HATE him....he wasnt as bad as I thought he was going to be....but the dude just isnt likeble.

 

[jye4ever]

Wait... it took this POS movie to make you interested in Sideshow's awesome 1:6 JOE figure(s)? It's official, you are from Opposite World.

Well,

How am I supposed to be interested in something that I wasn't aware existed?

I wasn't a GI Joe fan before this movie.

Only knew the name and that they were toys, no specifics.

You are correct, it is definately official that we are indeed from opposite worlds, let's keep it that way.

 

[IrishJedi]

You think he would be making "G.I. Joe" movies if he was a good filmmaker?

Sure, why not? Chris Nolan was a filmmaker with critical pedigree before he took on Batman (and before him, even Darren Aronofsky was attached). And Batman and its overall legacy is no less silly than G.I. JOE. At all. The problem is that the damn Sunbow cartoons are what people use as their JOE template now (for sure the filmmakers of this movie did) and not the Larry Hama Marvel comics that actually came before it. A G.I. JOE movie from a capable filmmaker made with those sensibilities could not only satiate those of you only asking for "fun", but could also be GOOD and offer some level of artistic merit and characters people would actually give a crap about.

It's unfortunate that now when people hear "G.I. JOE" the first thing that will spring to mind is a vapid Stephen Sommers hack piece, and the second the cheese ball Sunbow cartoon. The true legacy of G.I. JOE (the first 40 or so issues of Hama's run) is left in one giant shadow of camp-filled garbage. Again, using Batman as a comparison... this is what it was like for that brand after the 1960's Adam West show and Super Friends cartoons. It took "The Dark Knight Returns" to re-establish Batman as a pop culture icon that one could be a fan of without feeling embarrassed. G.I. JOE has not been saved in this way yet. In fact, it just took 2 giant steps back.

 

[jlprjlpr]

Sure, why not? Chris Nolan was a filmmaker with critical pedigree before he took on Batman (and before him, even Darren Aronofsky was attached). And Batman and its overall legacy is no less silly than G.I. JOE. At all. The problem is that the damn Sunbow cartoons are what people use as their JOE template now (for sure the filmmakers of this movie did) and not the Larry Hama Marvel comics that actually came before it. A G.I. JOE movie from a capable filmmaker made with those sensibilities could not only satiate those of you only asking for "fun", but could also be GOOD and offer some level of artistic merit and characters people would actually give a crap about.

It's unfortunate that now when people hear "G.I. JOE" the first thing that will spring to mind is a vapid Stephen Sommers hack piece, and the second the cheese ball Sunbow cartoon. The true legacy of G.I. JOE (the first 40 or so issues of Hama's run) is left in one giant shadow of camp-filled garbage. Again, using Batman as a comparison... this is what it was like for that brand after the 1960's Adam West show and Super Friends cartoons. It took "The Dark Knight Returns" to re-establish Batman as a pop culture icon that one could be a fan of without feeling embarrassed. G.I. JOE has not been saved in this way yet. In fact, it just took 2 giant steps back.

"G.I. JOE has not been saved in this way yet. In fact, it just took 2 giant steps back"

Totally disagree unless your goal for Joe is to be a literary masterpiece. If your goal is for Joe to be fun escapist entertainment with cool special effects and tons of action and the basis for some new great Hasbro toys, then Joe just took 56.2 million steps forward! Everyone needs to stop taking this so seriously. They are toys! And then they made a story to sell the toys. Have fun with it.

 

[IrishJedi]

Totally disagree unless your goal for Joe is to be a literary masterpiece.

Not at all. But there is a huge gap between "campy cheese" and "masterpiece". It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Why not fit somewhere in the middle?

Something along the quality/sensibility lines of, say, IRON MAN, would be perfect for G.I. JOE and would placate all involved. Instead, only those wanting completely empty dumb mindless "fun" are thrilled.

Everything about IRON MAN is superior: the script, the acting, the directing, even the FX. I wouldn't called it "a literary masterpiece" or even a perfect movie at all, but it's still an infinitely more competently developed and made film. And it manages to be plenty "fun" and entertaining.