Statue Gimli Maquette

[The Josh]

Ya know I like seeing the screen caps always makes me smile. Guess cause its just from something I love.

Woodsy do you use this site? LOTR Screencaps

 

[The Josh]

As I've said before if the expression was screaming I suspect folks would complain the piece was too cartoonish, although I admit I sort of wish for some more expression.

As for the ladder and orc's arms, I too feel something is sacred about the outlines of the base. I get what they are going for and it sort of looks cool (the dead orc, not the ladder) but the additions make the bases look less clean and this was something I really liked about the maquette line's early rollouts. SSW's bases were too haphazard for me giving the pieces a lack of unity. The new gimli sort of violates that spirit. Having said this, the side view really looks fantastic and this is a face I wouldn't mind not seeing as much.

Well, if you get the regular you won't have to worry about the orc and the ladder will be in the back which you really won't see.

 

[woodsy]

As I've said before if the expression was screaming I suspect folks would complain the piece was too cartoonish, although I admit I sort of wish for some more expression.As for the ladder and orc's arms, I too feel something is sacred about the outlines of the base. I get what they are going for and it sort of looks cool (the dead orc, not the ladder) but the additions make the bases look less clean and this was something I really liked about the maquette line's early rollouts. SSW's bases were too haphazard for me giving the pieces a lack of unity. The new gimli sort of violates that spirit. Having said this, the side view really looks fantastic and this is a face I wouldn't mind not seeing as much.

I'm not sure what the reason, but two of the misconceptions people seem to have are that Aragorn fought without emotion, and Gimli fought with emotion. That simply does not line up with the characters as portrayed in the movies and this is easily verifiable by simply watching the movies.

Open-mouthed/screaming sculpts are fine with generic characters, but rarely, if ever, are sculptors able to "pull this off" without it negatively impacting the likeness of recognizable characters. And I can guarantee this thread would be filled with "Who the hell is that supposed to be?" comments had SS attempted to portray Gimli with more emotion. Besides, Gimli was bye and large a very cool customer in the heat of battle and this portrait reflects that very well.

 

[woodsy]

Ya know I like seeing the screen caps always makes me smile. Guess cause its just from something I love.

Woodsy do you use this site? LOTR Screencaps

I do occasionally Josh, though there are a few other sites out there that feature a significantly larger number of screencaps.

Well, if you get the regular you won't have to worry about the orc and the ladder will be in the back which you really won't see.

Personally, I love it when companies think outside the box artistically speaking, and I love the orc arm's dangling over the edge of the base. The ladder doesn't bother me either, though I imagine it is detachable and those who don't like it can simply keep it in the box.

 

[The Josh]

I do occasionally Josh, though there are a few other sites out there that feature a significantly larger number of screencaps.

Ah really? Can you PM me the ones you use? I'd like to have them for my own resources.

 

[woodsy]

Ah really? Can you PM me the ones you use? I'd like to have them for my own resources.

PM on the way!

 

[The Josh]

PM on the way!

Thank ya

 

[woodsy]

Thank ya

My pleasure Josh. Those are fantastic websites. Enjoy!

 

[The Josh]

They look awesome! Will enjoy going through them.

 

[coupstair]

i have all the exes ordered but i have to say i'm a little disappointed in our dwarven representation thus far:
- isn't gimli sort of renown for his facial expressions and attitude? i see neither in this solemn expression...
- his arms look waaaay tooo loooong. his hands look like they'd be at his knees if he stood straight up.
- ... just don't understand the ladder ...

of course SS will get my cold hard cash on this one, because i have/will have his compatriots, however, this is not a smileyfacemaker for me unfortunately.

he needs revisions sideshow.

 

[woodsy]

i have all the exes ordered but i have to say i'm a little disappointed in our dwarven representation thus far:
- isn't gimli sort of renown for his facial expressions and attitude? i see neither in this solemn expression...- his arms look waaaay tooo loooong. his hands look like they'd be at his knees if he stood straight up.
- ... just don't understand the ladder ...

of course SS will get my cold hard cash on this one, because i have/will have his compatriots, however, this is not a smileyfacemaker for me unfortunately.

he needs revisions sideshow.

No, not really. I think there's plenty of evidence to the contrary, but that would mean going back and reading a few pages before this one....

 

[Avenger]

I took the SSC image (right) and tried my best to hinge his arm down to his side to see how the length would play out. Here's the result

It looks to me like it's a little too long. Maybe not quite as bad as the picture suggests, if you imagine his left leg fully extended. But, still a tad off....

 

[LOTRFan]

I think it looks excellent, still holding out for a PF personally but a nice solid entry to the statue line. The decision for the orc as the EX is a bit of a head-scratcher though, seems to be pretty essential; I don't think I would consider displaying it without as it really adds to the scene.

The expressionless face is ok, but Gimli being one of if not the most charismatic of the Fellowship; I think he should have been portrayed that way. That could have been the perfect EX, (and one SS is clearly fond of) a more nuanced portrait.

 

[cstojano]

I took the SSC image (right) and tried my best to hinge his arm down to his side to see how the length would play out. Here's the result

It looks to me like it's a little too long. Maybe not quite as bad as the picture suggests, if you imagine his left leg fully extended. But, still a tad off....

Bravo on the PS work but your analysis depends on which type of dwarf (ism) we are talking about here

 

[cstojano]

Screen grabs notwithstanding, I think the point is the essence of the character right? So is Gimli in your impression a stoic character? I kind of thought he was more of a goof (which always bothered me), very confident, and enjoyed the art of battle very much. I think a full on berzerker face would have been too much, a screaming battle maw perhaps too much as well, a glint in the eye and a smirk fortelling his brimming enthusiasm to declare to Legolas "that's 17" would be perfect but probably really hard to sculpt and paint. I guess I'm picturng a sort of giddy seriousness about the skull about to cracked here.

 

[The Josh]

Its a nice attempt to get across your point. I just don't think it works to be honest.

 

[cstojano]

It doesn't work because its not what you think the piece should convey? or because they lack the talent to make it so? or because the medium is impossible for conveying such nuance? I'm half agreeing with you but for reason # 3 I think.

 

[Till Foxburr]

for large pics:

The cool thing about these statues is you get to really appreciate the details of the costumes, where in the movie it's tough to pick up on. I never realized how much heat Gimli was packing!

 

[The Josh]

It doesn't work because its not what you think the piece should convey? or because they lack the talent to make it so? or because the medium is impossible for conveying such nuance? I'm half agreeing with you but for reason # 3 I think.

I don't think its possible to take the arm off and just flip it down. Then you factor in the pose of the statue its just hard to make it work the way he's trying to make.

 

[The Josh]

The cool thing about these statues is you get to really appreciate the details of the costumes, where in the movie it's tough to pick up on. I never realized how much heat Gimli was packing!

That to me is one of the best things about statues from SSW or straight SS. Is you get to really notice all the details and pieces like this Tim did a great job really detailing the ____ out of Gimli.