Halloween (October 19th, 2018)

[matturibe1]

You don't have to say anything. If you don't like what I have said so much then place me on ignore if you want. Some folks on here place the last two Star Wars films over the older ones and I don't care. I'm sorry my opinion doesn't match yours.

I like H2 and it's a good sequel but it's not directed by Carpenter and he was drunk when he wrote that retcon with Laurie being Myers sister.

No I don't care if we match, I am just trying to understand what pple liked. Because what I saw was basically a carbon copy of every sequel that Halloween had and mashed into this movie. Well, I hated Disney star wars as well. Those were super boring and had the same problem with those has I had with this, no character development and and bad plot. It isn't about having the same opinion, we all are different I understand that. However, this has been done so many times, I was stoked beyond belief I grew up on the original Halloween. Saw all most every one in the theater. Now res is the worst Halloween of them all but this right above it. They took everything good about the sequels and made this basically. Anyways, maybe it is a generation gap. Idk, Cuz I dislike most movies these days cuz they are all comic bs. But I like Hereditary and a quiet place because it brought something new to the table. I love that about movies and this didn't do that at all. I think that is why I hated it so much. But seeing Myers was awesome as usual. Just wish their was a great plot. Funny Carpenter made a movie drunk better than a movie with tons of money put in and time. But anyways it is what it is. But I wasn't coming off like anyone's opinion is higher than the other. More of trying to understand what was so good about it. Cuz their were moments of good scenes, but with a let down of bad scenes. Anyways, I think them making Myers more of a man was useless because one made him a machine right of the bat then they try and make him more of a man then the killing scenes justified a machine again. So, their were so many things I was like wtf. But we can all agree it was awesome to see the man Myers on the screen, I mean last week I was at the screening and Pasadena 40th convention, got all mys stuff signed. Cool convention.

 

[bboy]

Wow ! Absolute blast. The whole theatre screamed and laughed the entire time. Best time I’ve had in a theater for a horror movie since Evil Dead and You’re Next.

 

[Caped Baldy]

No I don't care if we match, I am just trying to understand what pple liked. Because what I saw was basically a carbon copy of every sequel that Halloween had and mashed into this movie. Well, I hated Disney star wars as well. Those were super boring and had the same problem with those has I had with this, no character development and and bad plot. It isn't about having the same opinion, we all are different I understand that.

However, this has been done so many times, I was stoked beyond belief I grew up on the original Halloween. Saw all most every one in the theater. Now res is the worst Halloween of them all but this right above it. They took everything good about the sequels and made this basically. Anyways, maybe it is a generation gap. Idk, Cuz I dislike most movies these days cuz they are all comic bs. But I like Hereditary and a quiet place because it brought something new to the table. I love that about movies and this didn't do that at all. I think that is why I hated it so much.

But seeing Myers was awesome as usual. Just wish their was a great plot. Funny Carpenter made a movie drunk better than a movie with tons of money put in and time. But anyways it is what it is. But I wasn't coming off like anyone's opinion is higher than the other. More of trying to understand what was so good about it. Cuz their were moments of good scenes, but with a let down of bad scenes.

Anyways, I think them making Myers more of a man was useless because one made him a machine right of the bat then they try and make him more of a man then the killing scenes justified a machine again. So, their were so many things I was like wtf. But we can all agree it was awesome to see the man Myers on the screen, I mean last week I was at the screening and Pasadena 40th convention, got all mys stuff signed. Cool convention.

I already explained what I liked about H18 so there's nothing more I need to say really.

Peace.

 

[MaulFan]

My theater was full of mostly older viewers and I kept hearing one woman saying things like “oh my god” after each kill as if she expected something like ‘78. Don’t see a modern slasher if gore and violence aren’t your thing.

 

[jye4ever]

The gore was actually perfectly fine but the smashing of heads with a boot should be left for brutes like Jason and RZ MM.

H78 Shape don’t smash heads with a boot very out of character.

Even the hammer is an H2 weapon not H78.

Oh well.

I would’ve made Laurie a very successful defense attorney.

She feels guilty because she knows she should be prosecuting criminals but went the defense route because it paid better.

Next thing you know new clues materialize from the sanitarium, maybe Loomis’s notes, that trys to paint MM innocent of his crimes and Laurie is tasked with taking on his case.

Halloween The Court Drama.

 

[Caped Baldy]

Well at least he didn't kill any animals this time. I swear it was a running gag in the older ones where he has to kill a dog every film.

I also stayed until the end credits and while you don't see anything...

Spoiler

You can briefly hear Myers breathing so he's still alive (of course).

Love the shot of his lifeless black eyes looking up at the girls while the house starts to burn. They pulled a fast one on him and he look pissed.

There's definitely some deleted scenes in here though. They must have filmed a different finale because this wasn't anywhere to be found.

Love her falling out the window, Myers looking down and seeing her gone in complete reversal to the original. He became the hunted and didn't realise it.

JLC acting in the restaurant scene + her crying in the car watching the bus drive away was excellent.

Biggest sin of the movie was not having that hot tiger chick with her breasts out and having sex. Don't judge me.

 

[MaulFan]

Spoiler

Myers looking down on Laurie the way Loomis did him in the first was a great parallel, as was her face emerging from the shadow before stabbing him and knocking him downstairs just like he did at the house Annie was babysitting in.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

My buddy called me and gave me a full report. He is a Myers fanatic and was dissapointed. He said the setting didn't have the Halloween (holiday) setting the others had. He described a couple of cool scenes like the long continuous shot, but overall he said he was bored. He told me about the ending which I think sounds pretty weak and typical but it's 2018 everything is stupid.

All I read was this film is the sequel all the other should've been, and this film completey replaces all the other. He said it was better than the RZ abominations, and a little better than resurrection, but all of the others he preferred over this film.

I'm gonna try to watch it sometime soon.

 

[jye4ever]

Well at least he didn't kill any animals this time. I swear it was a running gag in the older ones where he has to kill a dog every film.

I also stayed until the end credits and while you don't see anything...

Spoiler

You can briefly hear Myers breathing so he's still alive (of course).

Love the shot of his lifeless black eyes looking up at the girls while the house starts to burn. They pulled a fast one on him and he look pissed.

There's definitely some deleted scenes in here though. They must have filmed a different finale because this wasn't anywhere to be found.

Love her falling out the window, Myers looking down and seeing her gone in complete reversal to the original. He became the hunted and didn't realise it.

JLC acting in the restaurant scene + her crying in the car watching the bus drive away was excellent.

Biggest sin of the movie was not having that hot tiger chick with her breasts out and having sex. Don't judge me.

lol @ tiger boobs.

She just might’ve given that blonde from the F13th remake a run for her money as the hottest slasher sex scene ever.

Actually no forget it nothing can beat that blonde from F13th and i’m into brunettes lol

I still would’ve liked to seen tiger brunette being a lion though

Spoiler

Myers looking down on Laurie the way Loomis did him in the first was a great parallel, as was her face emerging from the shadow before stabbing him and knocking him downstairs just like he did at the house Annie was babysitting in.

That climax didn’t make a lick of sense.

So now Laurie can get up from a 40 foot fall just like Myers!

So her plan all along was to almost get killed as a path to his capture?

When she decided to go upstairs to confont him I was done.

So the only way she could deal with her PTSD was to physically confront him?

I can deal with how he chose certain victims over others or how he played hide and seek with some victims but not others it’s the Laurie side of the plot that was a hot mess.

 

[jye4ever]

Ha Ha I knew it wasn’t going to get an A cinema score I just knew it based off my audience reaction not even a low A I thought.

It got a B + which in cinemascore language is meh lol

THAT BEING SAID.....

It’s poised to beat Venom’s opening weekend numbers by just a hair which would obviously crown it as the biggest October opening EVER not just for a horror movie but ALL movies ever.

Think about that for a second.

It’s matching H78 record reputation so that alignes perfectly with the direct sequel title.

Carpenter will finally get his Hollywood Halloween recognition revitalized after the H3 debacle so now he will be less grumpy lol

He chose wisely.

Blumhouse becomes a powerhouse horror studio now.

New Miramax arrives back on the scene with a huge win for them!

Universal shines after their Mummy disaster.

Win for horror.

B cinemascore ha ha.

 

[Khev]

Spoiler

Myers looking down on Laurie the way Loomis did him in the first was a great parallel, as was her face emerging from the shadow before stabbing him and knocking him downstairs just like he did at the house Annie was babysitting in.

I've only seen the first three Halloween movies and then whichever one that had Josh Hartnett it in so I'm hardly a hardcore fan nor do I really have a stake in this new film doing well but

Spoiler

I would not have wanted them to repeat the "Michael's face coming out of the darkness" gag. Repeating the falling out the window and then vanishing is fine because that's a common trope of pretty much all slasher movies but Myers' face in the darkness is arguably one of the coolest and unique moments of any slasher film. I think they should have left it as a standalone moment from the original classic only.

 

[ShadowX81]

My buddy called me and gave me a full report. He is a Myers fanatic and was dissapointed. He said the setting didn't have the Halloween (holiday) setting the others had. He described a couple of cool scenes like the long continuous shot, but overall he said he was bored. He told me about the ending which I think sounds pretty weak and typical but it's 2018 everything is stupid.

All I read was this film is the sequel all the other should've been, and this film completey replaces all the other. He said it was better than the RZ abominations, and a little better than resurrection, but all of the others he preferred over this film.

I'm gonna try to watch it sometime soon.

Im going to have to agree with your friend. As a longtime Myers fanatic I was pretty disappointed by this.

All the characters were pretty lame and a bit underdeveloped, the film maker's choice of colors in scenes really didn't sell the Halloween holiday (a lot of whites, pastels, and off-grey colors), the 2018 problem of shoving comedy in too many scenes to the point where it kills any tension that has been building, a plot that is a bit all over the place, and the guy playing Myers didn't seem to get the character at all. Very stiff and robotic.

Also there is a twist that occurs 1/3 of the way through (I won't spoil it) that is very stupid (we are talking Last Jedi levels of stupid) and threatens to derail the entire freaking movie. Luckily it doesn't go off the rails for too long. But it was ridiculous enough to leave a bad taste in my mouth about the whole thing.

I also don't get why they couldn't have included a few of the better sequels in the canon of this one. They even seem to ignore the ending of h1 to make this work. It wouldn't have been that hard to work H2 and H20 into this story with just a couple changes, and would have preserved a bit of the continuity.

 

[Caped Baldy]

Ha Ha I knew it wasn’t going to get an A cinema score I just knew it based off my audience reaction not even a low A I thought.

It got a B + which in cinemascore language is meh lol

THAT BEING SAID.....

It’s poised to beat Venom’s opening weekend numbers by just a hair which would obviously crown it as the biggest October opening EVER not just for a horror movie but ALL movies ever.

Think about that for a second.

It’s matching H78 record reputation so that alignes perfectly with the direct sequel title.

Carpenter will finally get his Hollywood Halloween recognition revitalized after the H3 debacle so now he will be less grumpy lol

He chose wisely.

Blumhouse becomes a powerhouse horror studio now.

New Miramax arrives back on the scene with a huge win for them!

Universal shines after their Mummy disaster.

Win for horror.

B cinemascore ha ha.

What was Hereditary's cinema score? Asking for a friend.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Hope Threezero announces a figure from this. License is available.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Im going to have to agree with your friend. As a longtime Myers fanatic I was pretty disappointed by this.

All the characters were pretty lame and a bit underdeveloped, the film maker's choice of colors in scenes really didn't sell the Halloween holiday (a lot of whites, pastels, and off-grey colors), the 2018 problem of shoving comedy in too many scenes to the point where it kills any tension that has been building, a plot that is a bit all over the place, and the guy playing Myers didn't seem to get the character at all. Very stiff and robotic.

Also there is a twist that occurs 1/3 of the way through (I won't spoil it) that is very stupid (we are talking Last Jedi levels of stupid) and threatens to derail the entire freaking movie. Luckily it doesn't go off the rails for too long. But it was ridiculous enough to leave a bad taste in my mouth about the whole thing.

I also don't get why they couldn't have included a few of the better sequels in the canon of this one. They even seem to ignore the ending of h1 to make this work. It wouldn't have been that hard to work H2 and H20 into this story with just a couple changes, and would have preserved a bit of the continuity.

Dude he said the same thing about the Last jedi and the same thing about character development. Said there was a disconnect from the first film, just not a lot of bridging going on to help cement the film's ties to the original. He went as far to say this could almost be a stand alone film hats how much they didn't recognize the first film.

Again I'm gonna see it for myself just relaying what my pal Richie said

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Hope Threezero announces a figure from this. License is available.

It probably still will be

 

[guyver1]

Sounds like this film is fun if you have the right audience in the theater ..that’s horrible , if you need the audience to make it enjoyable.

Looks like I’ll just wait until gets on cable. Don’t even think it’s worth to buy the blu Ray

Someone kept mentioning H4 ..was that the one where the little girl killed everyone at the end

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Sounds like this film is fun if you have the right audience in the theater ..that’s horrible , if you need the audience to make it enjoyable.

Looks like I’ll just wait until gets on cable. Don’t even think it’s worth to buy the blu Ray

Probably be on Netflix before then

 

[guyver1]

Probably be on Netflix before then

Yup..seems that is the norm nowadays..Netflix or even Hulu ..I have both so it’s fine with me

 

[Caped Baldy]

Sounds like this film is fun if you have the right audience in the theater ..that’s horrible , if you need the audience to make it enjoyable.

Someone kept mentioning H4 ..was that the one where the little girl killed everyone at the end

Not at all, it just made my showing more lively that's all.

Jamie inherited Michael's evil and stabs her mother at the end of H4 and they retcon that shock ending and throw it away completely in H5.