They never decided. He went swimming and he was in the dressing room drying off and he just died. Autopsy never determined anything. His DC just says natural causes.
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They never decided. He went swimming and he was in the dressing room drying off and he just died. Autopsy never determined anything. His DC just says natural causes.
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Yeah, a girl I went to school with had a massive stroke at 23. She was in great health and had zero prior health problems. No heart problems, drug abouse or anything, doctors could never really explain why it happened.
So death at 28 of natural causes is hardly unheard of.
So death at 28 of natural causes is hardly unheard of.
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Here a bit more info on the "Natural Causes" theory being reported on the news, etc:
"It sounds strange, but sources intimately connected with the Heath Ledger investigation tell TMZ it's possible the actor died of natural causes.
The reason they think that -- it's now appearing that the level of toxicity (from medication) in Ledger's system was low enough that it may not have caused his death. These sources say Heath's heart stopped. It could have been a heart attack but it's not certain, at least not yet. Although it's bizarre that a 28-year-old could die of natural causes, it happens.
We've also learned authorities do not believe the housekeeper heard Ledger snoring when she walked in his bedroom at around 1:00 PM. Sources tell us, a fireman observed rigor mortis in Ledger's jaw shortly after arriving on scene at around 3:30 PM. Sources say they now believe Ledger was dead for around three hours prior to their arrival, so they don't believe the masseuse could have heard snoring.
Authorities are also annoyed at news reports that there may have been a sinister plot to remove illegal drugs from Ledger's apartment before cops and firemen arrived. There are reports out there that the masseuse called Mary-Kate Olsen and a plot was hatched to have her bodyguard remove certain drugs. Authorities tell us that's impossible, because the cops were there the entire time the bodyguard was present and there would have been no opportunity to carry out such a plan. They say it's a made up story.
As we first reported, the masseuse contacted the bodyguard because she knew he was a licensed EMT."
"It sounds strange, but sources intimately connected with the Heath Ledger investigation tell TMZ it's possible the actor died of natural causes.
The reason they think that -- it's now appearing that the level of toxicity (from medication) in Ledger's system was low enough that it may not have caused his death. These sources say Heath's heart stopped. It could have been a heart attack but it's not certain, at least not yet. Although it's bizarre that a 28-year-old could die of natural causes, it happens.
We've also learned authorities do not believe the housekeeper heard Ledger snoring when she walked in his bedroom at around 1:00 PM. Sources tell us, a fireman observed rigor mortis in Ledger's jaw shortly after arriving on scene at around 3:30 PM. Sources say they now believe Ledger was dead for around three hours prior to their arrival, so they don't believe the masseuse could have heard snoring.
Authorities are also annoyed at news reports that there may have been a sinister plot to remove illegal drugs from Ledger's apartment before cops and firemen arrived. There are reports out there that the masseuse called Mary-Kate Olsen and a plot was hatched to have her bodyguard remove certain drugs. Authorities tell us that's impossible, because the cops were there the entire time the bodyguard was present and there would have been no opportunity to carry out such a plan. They say it's a made up story.
As we first reported, the masseuse contacted the bodyguard because she knew he was a licensed EMT."
scubasteve
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Nolan's statement(s) -
"One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma—as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.
Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.
One time he and another actor were shooting a complex scene. We had two days to shoot it, and at the end of the first day, they'd really found something and Heath was worried that he might not have it if we stopped. He wanted to carry on and finish. It's tough to ask the crew to work late when we all know there's plenty of time to finish the next day. But everyone seemed to understand that Heath had something special and that we had to capture it before it disappeared. Months later, I learned that as Heath left the set that night, he quietly thanked each crew member for working late. Quietly. Not trying to make a point, just grateful for the chance to create that they'd given him.
Those nights on the streets of Chicago were filled with stunts. These can be boring times for an actor, but Heath was fascinated, eagerly accepting our invitation to ride in the camera car as we chased vehicles through movie traffic—not just for the thrill ride, but to be a part of it. Of everything. He'd brought his laptop along in the car, and we had a high-speed screening of two of his works-in-progress: short films he'd made that were exciting and haunting. Their exuberance made me feel jaded and leaden. I've never felt as old as I did watching Heath explore his talents. That night I made him an offer—knowing he wouldn't take me up on it—that he should feel free to come by the set when he had a night off so he could see what we were up to.
When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film—sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.
Back on LaSalle Street, I turn to my assistant director and I tell him to clear the skateboarding kid out of my line of sight when I realize—it's Heath, woolly hat pulled low over his eyes, here on his night off to take me up on my offer. I can't help but smile."
"One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma—as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.
Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.
One time he and another actor were shooting a complex scene. We had two days to shoot it, and at the end of the first day, they'd really found something and Heath was worried that he might not have it if we stopped. He wanted to carry on and finish. It's tough to ask the crew to work late when we all know there's plenty of time to finish the next day. But everyone seemed to understand that Heath had something special and that we had to capture it before it disappeared. Months later, I learned that as Heath left the set that night, he quietly thanked each crew member for working late. Quietly. Not trying to make a point, just grateful for the chance to create that they'd given him.
Those nights on the streets of Chicago were filled with stunts. These can be boring times for an actor, but Heath was fascinated, eagerly accepting our invitation to ride in the camera car as we chased vehicles through movie traffic—not just for the thrill ride, but to be a part of it. Of everything. He'd brought his laptop along in the car, and we had a high-speed screening of two of his works-in-progress: short films he'd made that were exciting and haunting. Their exuberance made me feel jaded and leaden. I've never felt as old as I did watching Heath explore his talents. That night I made him an offer—knowing he wouldn't take me up on it—that he should feel free to come by the set when he had a night off so he could see what we were up to.
When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film—sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.
Back on LaSalle Street, I turn to my assistant director and I tell him to clear the skateboarding kid out of my line of sight when I realize—it's Heath, woolly hat pulled low over his eyes, here on his night off to take me up on my offer. I can't help but smile."
That's one of the nicest things I've ever read from anyone about another person. Very touching, and all the more sad to learn of more of Heath's gifts and finer qualities now lost.
scubasteve
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I completely agree. It seems like Nolan really cares a lot about Heath. It's also safe to assume that he will preserve and make the best of one of Heath's final works as an actor.
Agreed, I don't see Nolan being hollywood, but rather approaching this project as a friend of Heath's, which is uplifting to hear. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the route of making some joker loaded promotional commercials and trailers just to highlight Heath. Interesting to have an insight into why Ledger wasn't as active in film as you might thinking, nice to see he wasn't chasing work and soaking it all in but waiting for the opportune moment to be as creative as he wanted to be.
The Craw
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still cant wait to see the film even if it now has a sense of meloncholy for me.
DarkArtist81
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Same here... Nolan put it perfectly, giving us a glimpse of what it was to know Heath. Makes me even more sad to know that we will never see what could have been had Heath lived on.
Anzik
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I've had pneumonia twice and it can easily kill you, and certainly worsen any pre- existing conditions.
When I first heard about this I was really sad and angry. Although I try not to pay attention to the 'bad boy' list in Hollywood, I wasn't aware he was ever anything but serious to his craft. When the first reports of heroin started to appear I was downright angry. I've known too many people who messed their lives up with drugs (myself included) for me not to feel outrage at the stupidity of it.
I first became aware of him during the Patriot and he became one of those actors that you see and recognize. Then to read Nolan's account up there, it makes me more sad. He had some real talent and worked hard to cultivate it unlike so many of the worthless 'actors' that are so frequently paraded in front of us that can't tear themselves away from their narcissism to show up for work.
I felt like this when Brandon Lee died, the sense of loss and great performances that won't happen, but first and foremost I'm so saddened for his baby girl. As the father of a young daughter I see everyday how much they just adore their fathers and now this poor child has a giant hole in her young life.
When I first heard about this I was really sad and angry. Although I try not to pay attention to the 'bad boy' list in Hollywood, I wasn't aware he was ever anything but serious to his craft. When the first reports of heroin started to appear I was downright angry. I've known too many people who messed their lives up with drugs (myself included) for me not to feel outrage at the stupidity of it.
I first became aware of him during the Patriot and he became one of those actors that you see and recognize. Then to read Nolan's account up there, it makes me more sad. He had some real talent and worked hard to cultivate it unlike so many of the worthless 'actors' that are so frequently paraded in front of us that can't tear themselves away from their narcissism to show up for work.
I felt like this when Brandon Lee died, the sense of loss and great performances that won't happen, but first and foremost I'm so saddened for his baby girl. As the father of a young daughter I see everyday how much they just adore their fathers and now this poor child has a giant hole in her young life.
scubasteve
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DDL is pure class. I have huge respect for him as a man and an actor. Instead of giving thanks to those he worked with in "There Will Be Blood," he took time to pay tribute to a man that he never met, but clearly respected.
scubasteve
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Thanks for posting that. To be honest, I really didn't know what DDL looked like. He actually does look quite a bit like Ledger with darker hair. I could see him replacing Heath if they want to include the Joker in part three. That was a nice tribute by him.
The only part I thought funny was, he simply said "Heath Ledger" and people started clapping.
Its like when people say a city, and someone from that city is in the crowd and they shout "Wooo." I've never really understood that.
The only part I thought funny was, he simply said "Heath Ledger" and people started clapping.
Its like when people say a city, and someone from that city is in the crowd and they shout "Wooo." I've never really understood that.
Sniper33
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I dotn know, something about it seemed like he only said it to get something from the crowd.
scubasteve
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He seemed very emotional, affected, and moved. He was the same on Oprah a couple days ago.
DarkArtist81
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Yeah, it did seem like it was something that affected him... and he just had to say something to honor Heath. I would have done that very same thing.
Jen
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I think it's great that DDL paid tribute to Heath. He really is a class act and he has said before that roles he had done in the past, also made it difficult for him to sleep and gave him anxiety. It would be unnerving to see someone experience similar effects as you but to have such a different and tragic outcome. I don't know why I can't get his passing out of my mind....it really still saddens me when I think of it and feels so wrong.
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