Hot Toys 1/6 Tumbler/Batpod Batman

[The Craw]

i loike those prices and release dates. i loike em alot.

 

[icruise]

Does anyone really think that TDK Batman will be $120? I do not, and that puts the other prices into question as well (aside from the fact that they're obviously not rounded-off MSRP-style prices). These are just straight conversions from Hong Kong dollars, right? If so, it has little to do with what people in the US will be paying.

 

[darren1228]

Does anyone really think that TDK Batman will be $120? I do not, and that puts the other prices into question as well (aside from the fact that they're obviously not rounded-off MSRP-style prices). These are just straight conversions from Hong Kong dollars, right? If so, it has little to do with what people in the US will be paying.

Yes it is just a straight conversion from HK dollars to US dollars. Ebay sellers will most likely raise the price. But I can confirm that is the price I'm paying for my BB Batman and Joker (I live in Taiwan).

 

[icruise]

I'm going to make the following guesses about US retail prices:

Tumbler: $399
Batpod: $249
Batman: $149

I don't think they will be less than this, but they could conceivably be more.

 

[Riko]

I showed the math in my original post on page 41...



X is to Y where X = the Hot Toy's SRP in JPY and Y = Toys2 Price in USD



Well math is math. The only thing I'm claiming is that there's a mathematical relationship between the Original Batman and the Joker figure that is not the strict currency converter in the link that Riko wants us all to use. If it was then we could go to the Toys2 site and find Original Batman for $205. That's the predictable price from his currency converter. But is he $205? No. He is not. Is the Joker $177? No. That's 0 for 2 for his link. So far it is 100% inaccurate. That is the sort of "research" that Riko apparently doesn't understand and lacking that he shouldn't come in here and start talking math trash.

You can express the relationship between the JPY of Original Batman and Toys2 price as a percentage that can be applied to the JPY of the Batmobile and if the trend holds then it will predict the Batmobile's price. Since the same relationship isn't the same for the Joker I did the math that way as well.

I'm not saying this is going to be the price offered, I'm saying if anyone wants to crunch the numbers to look for a trend that doing so would yield the Batmobile being anywhere around $323-$359 while the Batpod could be $211-235.

Come on, people. This is high school math.

shall we see untill the figures and the vechicles come out in october and december than?...

but your price estimation for the tumbler for instance is at least 323 dollars...
in Euro (where I come from) that would be 207 euro's....that is VERY LOW for such a high end, high detailled object like the tumbler.

sure, WE ALL WOULD LOVE IT if it were that low! but I cannot believe it and I will not believe it, I do not even understand how you get that estimation... your math eplanation is ridicule...I just converted the yen to dollar and to euro, nothing more. Those values are fixed. But in some way, you give a discount from wich I do not find any explanation...


If you base your price in dollars (or in euro's) starting from the price set in japanese yen (the ones Eddie gave us), than I cannot imagine they would ask a much much lower price outside of japan like you suggest (more than 100 euro lower, and mind that 100 euro = 156dollar), I believe the oposite is much more realistic: the price outside of japan (us market, european market) will be much higher than those prices we have seen!
so if they ask 49,000 yen, that price will be not lower than 49000 yen converted into dollars for the us market (the same for the european market) bottom line: for the non japanse market the prices will be highter than the 49000 yen for the japanse market...BECAUSE there is the shipping costs, retailer cost, etc...!!
that 49000 yen is without shipping, and was the MINIMUM selling price from the hot toys (he factory).
So who-ever sells the toys also must have a certain gain, correct? so autmatically it will go higher.
so that 49000 yen is AT LEAST 450 dollars for the tumbler(or 292 euro) for our markets...

Lol, that is just commerce and selling, I thought if you would think logically you would know by yourself that 200 euro is nothing for the tumbler why go lower than the factory standard price...
I guess you are a bit overexciting or something by this product and you are dying to hope that prices would be as low as possible...

but lol 200 euro (323dollar) for the tumbler, that's is dreaming out loud
I am surprised you even believe the prices will go that low in us or european market...

 

[Riko]

ah come on i just finished high school i think buying all the TDK goodies might be between $800- $1000 .... i think

that would be more realistic yes (not good for the whallet but that is how the prices will be)

and not like GDS said: tumbler COULD go for $323-$359, and Batpod COULD go for $211-235
damn, I am amazed by his strong sence of believe

 

[Riko]

I don't think HT or any Dealer is going to price themselves out of the market in this economy. 450-500 is simply too much for the Tumbler. The 1/6 R/c was made a lot cheaper, yes it wasn't as detailed but it was an RC.

I'm hoping these will be more reasonably priced.

lol dude
the RC model really is mock when you compare to the highly detailled hot toys model.
Models are just more expensive than low budget R/C's, that tumbler R/C wasn't a fuel R/C you know
Bad comparison to think that the hot toys model would be cheap just because the R/C was scheap, you cannot compare those two, they are worlds apart...

 

[Riko]

It may or may not be apples to oranges. Let's see some evidence. Does anyone have the Hot Toys SRP in JPY for the Powerloader that we could compare with the Toys2 price?

But really the point's moot. The smart thing to do is for everyone to budget for the maximum price and put any remainder in a holiday fund.

that is indeed a good approuch!

I would set that maxium price at 500-600 us dollars for the tumbler.

 

[Riko]

So now we are getting conflicting reports. $100 difference and 2 months difference. Those are too large of margins. We need more concrete answers.

indeed, this is very strange....

lets hope this is also about the same for the european and us markets

but, lets face it
75 euro for TDK batman
119 euro for the bat-pod
221 euro for the tumbler

that is like waaaay cheap, so cheap that I first would like to see it, before I believe it...but i think these prices and dates are not applied on us and european markets

 

[darren1228]

Retail for both the Power Loader and ED-209 were both set at 29800 Yen. However there was a discount if you preordered (no idea what that price was).

https://www.blister.jp/item5486.html
https://www.blister.jp/item6215.html

 

[darren1228]

indeed, this is very strange....

lets hope this is also about the same for the european and us markets

but, lets face it
75 euro for TDK batman
119 euro for the bat-pod
221 euro for the tumbler

that is like waaaay cheap, so cheap that I first would like to see it, before I believe it...but i think these prices and dates are not applied on us and european markets

The huge difference in release date is not weird at all. Sideshow receives their shipments 2 months after the HK release for most products. And prices for European markets are way more expensive so I wouldn't call it "way cheap" when you apply the prices to other markets.

 

[Riko]

I'm going to make the following guesses about US retail prices:

Tumbler: $399
Batpod: $249
Batman: $149

I don't think they will be less than this, but they could conceivably be more.

that would be AWSOME, but I think that is even too optimistic
I think this is more going to be the deal:
Tumbler: 450-500 dollars
Bat-pod: 280 dollars
batman tdk: 200 dollars

and even I am being slightly optimistic, because in europe all prices are freakin high

 

[Riko]

And prices for European markets are way more expensive so I wouldn't call it "way cheap" when you apply the prices to other markets.

indeed, that I have noticed...

but is there a big difference between European and American market prices? I guess the us prices are MUCH lower than our european prices for the same?

for instance a takara batman is about 180 euro here, wich is + 279 dollars

 

[darren1228]

Yes I would say so. I believe BBTS.com sold Takara Batman for $180. And for items that are distributed by Sideshow the prices are relatively similar to Hong Kong prices. It's because Sideshow isn't allowed to bring in TDK products that we are seeing this price increase for the American market.

 

[Riko]

Yes I would say so. I believe BBTS.com sold Takara Batman for $180. And for items that are distributed by Sideshow the prices are relatively similar to Hong Kong prices. It's because Sideshow isn't allowed to bring in TDK products that we are seeing this price increase for the American market.

as a european: only one market for me: EBAY.COM
And the few things that I did buy from european shops were due to older products from wich prices rocketed sky high on ebay, and some european seller still had em. But mostely all my hot toys and takara stuff comes from ebay, so I am guessing I will be buying one of these from a reputated ebay seller from hong kong again. This is goin to be too expensive in europe.

 

[bumblebee]

It has begun.


https://cgi.ebay.com/Dark-Knight-Ba...oryZ2480QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Riko]

It has begun.


https://cgi.ebay.com/Dark-Knight-Ba...oryZ2480QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

daaamn! and I was just talking about buying this on ebay
but sooo soon already

I believe studiosunny sells the real thing (I've bought already a few things from him) BUT some of the pictures where the tumbler is seen with a takara batman, IS the R/C model....I can see it on the front tires (that thick line in the middle of each tire) see also here:

also the antenna's on the flaps are gold, on the R/C model you do not have antenna's on the flaps.

but okay, maybe studiosunny didn't have time to take personal pictures of his product

 

[darren1228]

Shipping cost $120! Yikes......

 

[Voorhees27]

daaamn! and I was just talking about buying this on ebay
but sooo soon already

I believe studiosunny sells the real thing (I've bought already a few things from him) BUT I have doubts about the pictures with the takara batman, I think that is the R/C model....

Yeah I noticed the Takara too, I think you're right, it can't be Hot Toys but it looks identical to the proto's we've seen.

 

[darren1228]

Those pics were out awhile ago. I believe it is a customized RC Tumbler.