Hot Toys - Artist Collection - AVP: Samurai Predator 1/6 Scale Collectible Figure

[Devil_666]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Yeah people keep saying it's a figure… because it looks like a 1/6 scale figure. You can clearly see joints both at the shoulder and knee (and maybe the elbows but that's hard to tell)

It's not hard to tell. There's no elbow joints. There's also no wrist joints. You can see that clear as day in this pic.

Look at the left arm: No elbow joint. Look at the left wrist: No ball joint.

and it uses the mixed media approach common to 1/6 scale figures.

And that "mixed media approach" is also common in PF's. Which are... statues.

We have also seen photos of the mouth both open and closed

Where? All I've seen is one head with the mouth open and another head with the helmet on which is common with statues i.e. a swappable, alternate head. And as far as the wrist blades being up and down in pics.. Narin has made statues with the same exact feature.

Nowhere do they say it's a statue

This is just arguing semantics now. We all know what a figure is and what a statue is. If it has a full range of motion it's a figure. If it has one pose that can't be changed it's a statue. This is a statue. Do you really need them to call it that to understand what it is!?

and "1/6 scale" is commonly used to refer to 1/6 scale mixed media figures

And it's also commonly used to refer to Narin's statues and Fewture Models statues (who Takeya/Oniki are a part of). Lots of statues are 1/6 scale.

and given this is coming from Hot Toys that leads more credence to it referring to a figure.

But it's not coming from HT.

Their press release is clear. This Samurai Predator statue was made by Takayuki Takeya & Yuji Oniki. Period. Neither of those guys work for HT. Hot Toys had nothing to do with the creation of this piece. None.

The connection between Takeya/Oniki and HT is, HT plans on eventually making a 1/6 scale figure inspired by the statue that Takeya/Oniki made.

Two sets of artists making the same character in two different mediums (1 statue, 1 figure).

 

[theghostinside]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

So because im lazy and i dont feel like save an image and highlighting where the joints are you can go to :https://figuremaniac.blogspot.com/2011/07/hot-toys-13th-acghk-2011-part-5-shadow.html. Click on the first pic of the samurai predator and you will see seems where the elbows meet. They are somewhat hidden by the gauntlets.Dont think they are on both arms? Have a look and the back of the piece where there are cut looking joints at both elbows. At certain angles it looks like the wrists are cut joints as well. This is my last post about all of this. I really dont care what its classfied as but for anyone to say without a doubt what it is is arrogance.

 

[Kiva]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

It's not hard to tell. There's no elbow joints. There's also no wrist joints. You can see that clear as day in this pic.

Look at the left arm: No elbow joint. Look at the left wrist: No ball joint.

The right forearm reminds me so much of Kamen Rider OOO'S Tatoba form

 

[dedguy]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Yeah you can see what look like elbow joints here:

…and just to be clear, I'm not saying it is or isn't a statue, just saying that people have reason to question that. I'm not as rock-solid on anything as Devil_666 is. It may very well be a statue but I also can't understand how you can't see the obvious joints that are very similar in appearance to the joints on the current Predator lineup.

 

[Cdiesel09]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Ive seen pics of this statue/figure with and without joints. Im just glad that i kno a figure will definitely be made down the line.

 

[Devil_666]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

…and just to be clear, I'm not saying it is or isn't a statue, just saying that people have reason to question that.

How though!? I mean think about it, if this really is the figure/prototype from HT and not the statue designed/painted by Takayuki Takeya, sculpted by Yuji Oniki AND announced by HT.. then where is THAT statue at?

Because you can't have it both ways. Either the piece at the Ani-Com show/the piece in the Plastic Enemies/MILK articles is the statue from Takeya & Oniki, or it's the figure from HT.

It can't be both.

The press release clearly states that the piece from Takeya & Oniki will be unveiled and on display at Ani-Com from July 29 to August 2. So if this isn't it, where is it!?

I've also seen some people suggest that the Samurai Predator seen in all these pics is the 1/6 scale figure from HT and that the base is a diorama made by Takeya & Oniki. Which makes absolutely no sense. HT says in their press release "The 1/6th scale collectible figure which is inspired by this diorama project will be announced later."

So if Takeya & Oniki didn't make that Samurai Predator and the only thing they did make was the Diorama Base then how the hell could HT make a figure inspired by just a Diorama Base of dead aliens!? Seriously think about that. A base of dead, piled up Aliens inspired HT to make a figure of a Samurai Predator!?

 

[Biojex]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

I thought it was a figure based on the initial photo of this figure (darn bigfoot elbow joints). But it's pretty undeniable now that this thing here is a statue.

Devil I think you should stop now before your blood pressure gets to lethal levels.

 

[olbertfrog]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

WTF some are still breaking balls with their infinite knowledge about this being a statue?
Like i said it before Tomm Wong jr said on his facebook page that it's the figure proto.
But yes there is also a pic of the original sculpture floating in the mix.
The one at that toy fait is a figure.
You have to be blind (or just wanna be right at all cost).
there is an arm ball joint, elbow joint and leg joint visible in all the pics.
God you can even see a seam at the hand joint.
Bit it's okay you can continue busting your fellow balls and when it will be official you can say that it was all about semantics.

God this hobby attract some really annoying and ball busting i'm right you're not ********* that takes all the fun about posting and sharing with your fellow collector.

 

[Devil_666]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Devil I think you should stop now before your blood pressure gets to lethal levels.

I would have to care for that to happen.

 

[sprig0701]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Once again, for those who haven't had privileges bestowed by Dave to read previous posts, here is the quote DIRECTLY FROM HOT TOY'S FACEBOOK PAGE;

Hot Toys is more than happy to present the first artist collaboration project with celebrated ___anese artists Mr. Takayuki Takeya (竹谷隆之) & Mr. Yuji Oniki (鬼木祐二) to bring their unique design and sculpture to the 1/6th scale collectible world.

This 1/6th scale Samurai Predator diorama project is proudly designed and painted by Mr Takayuki Takeya (竹谷隆之) and specially sculpted by Mr. Yuji Oniki (鬼木祐二), which will be firstly unveiled in the Ani-Com & Games event in Hong Kong for preview from 29th July to 2nd August! The 1/6th scale collectible figure which is inspired by this diorama project will be announced later. Stay tuned!

Fans, please visit our specially designed America Theatre themed booth (booth # F18-22, 27-31) at Ani-Com Hong Kong to check out our exciting exhibits and products! Stay tuned with us for more update on our Ani-Com event tomorrow!

There are no joints, that isn't a prototype figure (as stated by someone not even affiliated with the project). If anyone thinks I'm making this up, here is the link to Hot Toy's facebook page;

https://www.facebook.com/hottoys

You won't have to scroll down very far to find it, they don't update their page very often.

 

[dedguy]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

So just out of curiosity. If it is a statue, then what are the apparent joints? In particular the ball join in the shoulder? Do you just not see them as joints?

 

[Elder_Predator2]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

I personally don't see them as joints. But that is because my perception of the product in question is not going to be the same as you.

 

[azurepred]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

So just out of curiosity. If it is a statue, then what are the apparent joints? In particular the ball join in the shoulder? Do you just not see them as joints?

how could you possibly see any shoulder joints when there is armor covering both shoulders. And how anyone sees elbow joints anywhere in this picture, I don't know, time to get some spectacles I guess

WTF some are still breaking balls with their infinite knowledge about this being a statue?
Like i said it before Tomm Wong jr said on his facebook page that it's the figure proto.
But yes there is also a pic of the original sculpture floating in the mix.
The one at that toy fait is a figure.
You have to be blind (or just wanna be right at all cost).
there is an arm ball joint, elbow joint and leg joint visible in all the pics.
God you can even see a seam at the hand joint.
Bit it's okay you can continue busting your fellow balls and when it will be official you can say that it was all about semantics.

God this hobby attract some really annoying and ball busting i'm right you're not ********* that takes all the fun about posting and sharing with your fellow collector.

and where would those joints be in the above picture? I know I'm not blind

 

[dedguy]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

This is what I am seeing for the record. You can even see the disc in the ball joint of the shoulder. This may just be pattern recognition on my part but it's what I'm seeing.

 

[sprig0701]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

So just out of curiosity. If it is a statue, then what are the apparent joints? In particular the ball join in the shoulder? Do you just not see them as joints?

I will totally agree with you 100% that that absolutely looks like a ball joint in the shoulder, without a doubt. I'm just going off of HT's official statement on their official FB page that it's a diorama (which I guess could be a semi-articulated statue-esque figure of sorts ) with the 1/6 figure based off of it to come in the future. If not for that statement, I'd probably be with others on the "it's a figure" train. But unfortunately, just like every other single thing with HT, until you have it in YOUR hand to see for yourself, you can not believe one thing you see or read anywhere else. Heck, they might say after Ani-Comm that this thing really was the proto-figure. Who knows?

 

[dedguy]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

HT has released dioramas before. I don't see diorama = statue. Diorama simply means a three dimensional scene made up from scale replicas. My reading of that posting from HT is that this is not a finished product. I see nothing in it that says "statue" and I'm not arguing semantics. There's no words in that paragraph that indicate statue anymore than they indicate anything else.

 

[GreenDragon]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

alright guys, time to clarify for you. The piece on display IS A STATUE. At the ACGHK, next to the statue they showed concept art for the 1/6 TOY that will be coming. The toy will be based off of the statue. So there ya go, give it time and you will see the toy soon enough.

 

[GreenDragon]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

Once again, for those who haven't had privileges bestowed by Dave to read previous posts, here is the quote DIRECTLY FROM HOT TOY'S FACEBOOK PAGE;




There are no joints, that isn't a prototype figure (as stated by someone not even affiliated with the project). If anyone thinks I'm making this up, here is the link to Hot Toy's facebook page;

https://www.facebook.com/hottoys

You won't have to scroll down very far to find it, they don't update their page very often.

ahh yes, sorry didn't see your post. you have hit the nail on the head. thanks!

 

[dedguy]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

alright guys, time to clarify for you. The piece on display IS A STATUE. At the ACGHK, next to the statue they showed concept art for the 1/6 TOY that will be coming. The toy will be based off of the statue. So there ya go, give it time and you will see the toy soon enough.

Okay, not to be argumentative… but do you say it's a statue because there was concept artwork or because someone told you it's a statue or because it looked like a statue to you?

I ask because the ThreeA Gundam was also shown at this show alongside concept artwork and while it is a prototype, not a finished piece, it is an articulated figure.

 

[GreenDragon]

Re: Hong Kong Ani-Com 2011: Hot Toys SAMURAI PREDATOR (Collectible Statue)

it's ok. Always a chance I am wrong, but it looked like a statue, and I am going based on the note on the bottom right that mentioned an upcoming 1/6 scale figure and the art that it was based off of. Now, I will say this - in my pics, I did notice the knees looking a bit jointy. Sorry I can't post right now, and I double checked but I did not get a shot (clear one) of the small note either. If I knew this discussion was going on, I would have gotten it for you. :-( sorry