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Sorry guys. Wolf FTW IMHO.

The wolf took off his armor cos he realized the predalien would just evade or shrug off the attacks.He needed to get a killing blow to end it and the only way was to get the predalien to go toe to toe.

Scar took off his mask prematurely and got face hugged.

Celtic took too darn long to kill an alien stuck in a net and chopper didn't even have the awareness to know there was an alien behind him.

All flaws of unblooded preds.

The way wolf lured the Allenstein out in the sewer was pure class.

Love you all guys but wolf FTW!
Well, actually he took his armor off because the Strause Brothers were trying to replicate the scene from P1 when Anytime takes off his shizzle to fight Arnold. Which of course didn't make any sense because he wasn't on some "omghunthonorprovemyselfworthyness" mission..

Yes, and Wolf took off his Bio in a ship with several broken Facehugger cages.. :slap Besides, Scar had already decapitated an Alien sneaking up on him in the blink of an eye, and sliced a Facehugger in half as it leaped at him faster than a bullet... :clap

Wolf held up two full grown Alien Warriors by their throats for a whole freaking hour before deciding to do something, and before he could, got tail wacked into a wall. "Oh we're just poor defenseless worms squirming back and forth! We will never live up to Ash's words of being the "Perfect Organism"". Atleast Celtic did some damage, AND he was UNBLOODED....

There was no way Chopper could have known there was an Alien hiding up in a dark box-like hole behind him. That was also the first time the full-grown Xenomorph shows itself in the movie.

As for the "flaws" thing.. Yes they had flaws.. They had never hunted Xenos before, and were very young for their speices. Wolf on the other hand was an experienced CLEANER!, and had acid-resistant armor with double Plasma Casters, the AvP trio had NO Plasma Casters on them. Wolf was FAR more flawed than the AvP trio.

Nothing against you, just stating the facts.
Wolf was supposed to be the most powerful Predator we have ever seen (Minus the Elders and P1), but he was easily the most retarded because of the Strause Brothers...
I like Wolf, for what he was supposed to be, not for what the Strause Brothers made him.
 
Do these predators in question have any backstory we could read up on?
I think they were just created for the big screen and not pulled from the comics. Is that correct?
 
Do these predators in question have any backstory we could read up on?
I think they were just created for the big screen and not pulled from the comics. Is that correct?
Yes.

When I said the story was copied from the comics, I pretty much just meant the whole Scar and Lex working together thing....
Machiko and Dachande.
 
Definitely agree with all of this. Especially with your last statement.

For once, I'd like to see a script where the Predator(s) don't ____ing die at the end of the movie. :slap

That would be a godsend to me! I wanna see a hero pred walk off into a sunlight after everything else is dead for once too.
 
Well, actually he took his armor off because the Strause Brothers were trying to replicate the scene from P1 when Anytime takes off his shizzle to fight Arnold. Which of course didn't make any sense because he wasn't on some "omghunthonorprovemyselfworthyness" mission..

That is an assumption. I watched that scene countless times but never got that vibe. I only got the impression that he was trying to bait the predalien to go hand to hand and kill it.

Yes, and Wolf took off his Bio in a ship with several broken Facehugger cages..

that's the point wolf took off his bio when he felt he had surveyed the scene and deemed it clear. Scar should have done better but assderson screwed it for scar.

:slap Besides, Scar had already decapitated an Alien sneaking up on him in the blink of an eye, and sliced a Facehugger in half as it leaped at him faster than a bullet... :clap

Wolf held up two full grown Alien Warriors by their throats for a whole freaking hour before deciding to do something, and before he could, got tail wacked into a wall.

That makes no sense. Why is chopper assumed to be unable to detect the alien hiding but scar can? And why after being so aware of aliens did scar fail to realize that the facehugger sneaking up on him? Cos of assderson!

Wolf was able to hold off 2 aliens who sneaked up on him. He didn't start with 2 canons but improvised when he realized he was dealing with a predalien.

"Oh we're just poor defenseless worms squirming back and forth! We will never live up to Ash's words of being the "Perfect Organism"". Atleast Celtic did some damage, AND he was UNBLOODED....

There was no way Chopper could have known there was an Alien hiding up in a dark box-like hole behind him. That was also the first time the full-grown Xenomorph shows itself in the movie.

As for the "flaws" thing.. Yes they had flaws.. They had never hunted Xenos before, and were very young for their speices. Wolf on the other hand was an experienced CLEANER!, and had acid-resistant armor with double Plasma Casters, the AvP trio had NO Plasma Casters on them. Wolf was FAR more flawed than the AvP trio.

There are several things that are flawed in AVP-r but it's not wolf. It's the aliens seemingly useless and the freaking weird spawning of aliens by the predalien.

Wolf was the only good thing IMHO.

AVP again suffered from poor direction and assderson made the unblooded look like brainless wrestlers. But wolf was better in combat and tactics relative to the AVP preds, at least IMHO.

Nothing against you, just stating the facts.
Wolf was supposed to be the most powerful Predator we have ever seen (Minus the Elders and P1), but he was easily the most retarded because of the Strause Brothers...
I like Wolf, for what he was supposed to be, not for what the Strause Brothers made him.

I didn't like what the brothers did with the aliens or the lifecycle of the predalien. Wolf I thought did ok in my books.
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Okay...Here I go

He didn't need to "bait the Predalien" It would have attacked him either way.. It's OBVIOUS they were going for the "I'ma badass watch me strip naked and still kick your ass!" type of thing. Which backfired on them because he had a job to do, and it wasn't to show off and get his ass kicked in the proccess.

Wolf didn't really survey the scene.. He looked around a bit and thats it.. AvP:R had WAY more flaws than AvP, but I agree, Scar should have checked out the place real fast before the shifting began again. But yeah, he was an Unblooded Predator.. He did an amazing job for what he was. Wolf should have secured the area.. He's an older veteran Cleaner mission-doing Predator guy. Scar was just a teenager.
PLUS when you watch AvP:R you think "why the hell isn't he watching out for anything that might want to kill him?" When you watch AvP you think "Few, he got lucky with those two kills.. Now he's going to mark himself POW! What a surprise! Face-hugged he has become!", you know what I mean?
I can understand Scar killing the two Aliens, then assuming the area was safe enough for him to mark himself in. But I think it's rather stupid that Wolf didn't do more to protect himself..

Chopper had Lex to worry about, and NONE of the Pred trio had encountered the Xenos yet. Plus the spot it was hiding in.. People were screaming, being killed, strangled..etc. It makes sense. When SCAR killed the Aliens he was all alone, dead silence.. His senses were more.. attuned (attuned, thats the word, right?).
I'd be a bit excited to do one of the MOST sacred/honorable things ever... ALSO, Scar had no Bio on at the time.. The Bio does enhance their vision, it's safe to say it enhances their other senses too.
Chopper was distracted when he was killed, Scar was distracted when he was face-hugged. Scar was NOT distracted when the Xeno and first Facehugger showed up.

When you say "Wolf was able to hold off 2 aliens who sneaked up on him", are you talking about the throat-grabbing scene? haven't seen AvP:R in a while.
IF YOU ARE.. Like I've said, they acted like two year olds and didn't bother to attack him.. Oh, and we can't forget how much time Wolf took to stare at them back and forth..... Etc.

Indeed, there are several things flawed in AvP:R. Indeed, it's not Wolf. It's the Sausage loving Strause Brothers (<-- see what I did there? :lol). They did make Wolf hang a body up in a tree, skinned, when he was supposed to get rid of all evidence... Not make more. That is a huge flaw.

Anderson did NOT! Make the AvP Preds look like mindless wrestlers! A mindless wrestler does NOT! Leap 20 feet in the air, do a cool twist-turn-flip thingy, then thrust a Combi-stick into a full grown (that we know of) Queen Alien's head!
The action scenes in AvP:R were dull and boring. If anything, Wolf holding the two Aliens up by the throat was more mindless-wrestler-like.... Scar came across far more skilled than Wolf did in AvP:R..it's a fact.

I do like Wolf, but I pretend that he (and the rest of the movie) was different. Love his design..
Before AvP:R came out, I had a plan on what my made-up Predator's mandibles would look like.. AvP:R comes out, all of the mandible teeth were in the same place they were on my made-up dream Predator...

It's hard for me to appreciate him because of the sick feeling I get in my stomach when I think of the movie he starred in, and the morons who made it..

Everyone, go watch AvP again and see how well-made it actually was.
The Predalien chestburster was the "icing on the cake" IMO.. Great movie.
PHEW!
 
Here's my scoreboard for AVP's Predators:

Scar is obviously at first place because he survived the longest. Despite being unblooded, he made it through the movie, was the only Pred who managed to score the plasmacaster, did some serious damage to the Alien Queen, and help the last remaining human out of an alien-infested pyramid thousands of feet below the ground without assistance from other clanmates. He was indeed facehugged only because he was busy marking himself.

Celtic comes in at a VERY CLOSE second. Why? Because he should've won his battle with Grid. His only mistake in that fight was taking too long to finish the creature off, but the alien should've been dead long before that part. Grid was special, a prodigy of a Xeno that could take large amounts of pain and dish them out equally. If Celtic was fighting any other random Alien, he easily would've taken it down (or at least put it into a coma) after throwing it through the wall. Had Celtic lived, I imagine his body count would've been huge because of his great skill in hand-to-hand close-range combat. Truly a master in that department, unlike Scar who used more ranged weapons but redeemed himself towards the end with his 360-flip move.

Lastly we have Chopper... who really did suck. He basically just looked cool, that's about it. Dude was impaled during cloak (which you wouldn't even need if you were killing a human up-close). This was the only real newb in the group.
 
Scar was stupid. And he was written stupidly.

One minute he is a stealth Ninja avoiding gun fire and 1 swipe slicing up sneaking aliens then the next minute he is face huggered... about a minute after he did a super ninja shuriken move on another face hugger.

Then he spams the caster and takes a few out which is a given. Then he is slow and clumbsy all movie and gets saved by Lex about 3 times. Then all of a sudden he is a jumping combi stick ninja master again.

AVP was probably the better movie but i prefer AVPR for the pure fact when Wolf is on screen i feel like i am watching a Predator.
 
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Okay...Here I go

He didn't need to "bait the Predalien" It would have attacked him either way.. It's OBVIOUS they were going for the "I'ma badass watch me strip naked and still kick your ass!" type of thing. Which backfired on them because he had a job to do, and it wasn't to show off and get his ass kicked in the proccess.

I don't agree. He threw the spear the predalien dodged it. He used the whip, it out muscled him. The predalien was too fast and heavily armored and wolf had to bait the predalien in. Go watch the scene again. He only took off his gear after trying his spear and whip first.

Wolf didn't really survey the scene.. He looked around a bit and thats it.. AvP:R had WAY more flaws than AvP, but I agree, Scar should have checked out the place real fast before the shifting began again. But yeah, he was an Unblooded Predator.. He did an amazing job for what he was. Wolf should have secured the area.. He's an older veteran Cleaner mission-doing Predator guy. Scar was just a teenager.

How long do you would you expect him to look. It might be his experience that allowed him to survey the scene quickly. plus in that scene his bio gives off several readouts before he took off the bio, who knows what it was telling him?

PLUS when you watch AvP:R you think "why the hell isn't he watching out for anything that might want to kill him?" When you watch AvP you think "Few, he got lucky with those two kills.. Now he's going to mark himself POW! What a surprise! Face-hugged he has become!", you know what I mean?
I can understand Scar killing the two Aliens, then assuming the area was safe enough for him to mark himself in. But I think it's rather stupid that Wolf didn't do more to protect himself..
as above :D

Chopper had Lex to worry about, and NONE of the Pred trio had encountered the Xenos yet. Plus the spot it was hiding in.. People were screaming, being killed, strangled..etc. It makes sense. When SCAR killed the Aliens he was all alone, dead silence.. His senses were more.. attuned (attuned, thats the word, right?).
sorry m8 but lex was a human kill, easy kill, why take so long. Simple assderson. :slap

I'd be a bit excited to do one of the MOST sacred/honorable things ever... ALSO, Scar had no Bio on at the time.. The Bio does enhance their vision, it's safe to say it enhances their other senses too.
Chopper was distracted when he was killed, Scar was distracted when he was face-hugged. Scar was NOT distracted when the Xeno and first Facehugger showed up.

Chopper = fail sorry I love preds but Anderson killed the two off cos they didnt have enough tall guys to play preds. :slap

When you say "Wolf was able to hold off 2 aliens who sneaked up on him", are you talking about the throat-grabbing scene? haven't seen AvP:R in a while.
IF YOU ARE.. Like I've said, they acted like two year olds and didn't bother to attack him.. Oh, and we can't forget how much time Wolf took to stare at them back and forth..... Etc.

Well, he had to think since they are too close to use the plasma caster on them. Also it was like 2 seconds at most. So I can understand why he might hesitate.


Indeed, there are several things flawed in AvP:R. Indeed, it's not Wolf. It's the Sausage loving Strause Brothers (<-- see what I did there? :lol). They did make Wolf hang a body up in a tree, skinned, when he was supposed to get rid of all evidence... Not make more. That is a huge flaw.

Anderson did NOT! Make the AvP Preds look like mindless wrestlers! A mindless wrestler does NOT! Leap 20 feet in the air, do a cool twist-turn-flip thingy, then thrust a Combi-stick into a full grown (that we know of) Queen Alien's head!

Agree with the wolf but Assderson pissed me by messing with the alien maturation cycle. Face hugged to full grown in 30 minutes :gah:

celtic's move of swinging grid thru pillars is wwf worthy. Aliens aren't supposed to be that armored.

Another major failure for assderson.

The action scenes in AvP:R were dull and boring. If anything, Wolf holding the two Aliens up by the throat was more mindless-wrestler-like.... Scar came across far more skilled than Wolf did in AvP:R..it's a fact.

Sorry, scar was athletic but made too many fatal mistakes. He had potential but was not really skilled. I mean one sec the does the 360 the next moment he roars at lex and get impaled by the queen?
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I do like Wolf, but I pretend that he (and the rest of the movie) was different. Love his design..
Before AvP:R came out, I had a plan on what my made-up Predator's mandibles would look like.. AvP:R comes out, all of the mandible teeth were in the same place they were on my made-up dream Predator...

It's hard for me to appreciate him because of the sick feeling I get in my stomach when I think of the movie he starred in, and the morons who made it..

Everyone, go watch AvP again and see how well-made it actually was.
The Predalien chestburster was the "icing on the cake" IMO.. Great movie.
PHEW!




Like I said wolf to me was the only redeeming factor of AVP-r. I like AVP but like AVP-r more cos wolf seemed more pred like compared to the AVP preds.
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Kay dude, tnaig001. I'm not gonna reply with a huge list of crap because I can already see you're missing several points i've made, and not considering certain things.....

Scar was good, Wolf was bad.
AvP was good, AvP:R was bad.

AvP:R = severely flawed and pitch black

AvP = very entertaining, made tons more sense (and had well thought out action scenes unlike AvP ______...)

Okay Blade, easy on Chopper.. He was young, first Xeno hunt...
They weren't hunting the Humans so there was no real need for him to even de-cloak.
Bad luck
 
Kay dude, tnaig001. I'm not gonna reply with a huge list of crap because I can already see you're missing several points i've made, and not considering certain things.....

Scar was good, Wolf was bad.
AvP was good, AvP:R was bad.

AvP:R = severely flawed and pitch black

AvP = very entertaining, made tons more sense (and had well thought out action scenes unlike AvP ______...)

Okay Blade, easy on Chopper.. He was young, first Xeno hunt...
They weren't hunting the Humans so there was no real need for him to even de-cloak.
Bad luck

It's all good bro. I like AVP. I like scar too. Hate Anderson though.


Just like wolf a tad more :lol

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