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[emoji848] Due to the uproar, Hot Toys is sending replacement head sculpts for the recent Iron Man release. If enough people complain about The Robin Package, perhaps Hot Toys will send replacement cod-pieces... We can call it Packagegate.


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The sonar suit always have a special place in my heart. It's the first time we had a non black movie batsuit. Batman&Robin made a silver, navy blueish suit. And then the ugly TDK suit was also gray but it's.... ugly..
 
Robin's piece didn?t look like that.

Wrong.

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The Batman Forever era is a throwback to a time when comic book movies were a cultural event and not the norm as is now. A time of genuine excitement over which actor was risking their career on a "kids? character", how they would be able to make it look on the big screen and who the villains would be chewing up the scenery.

Back when Hollywood treated them almost like a novelty genre like Sci-Fi and Fantasy with their inherit risks. They also were also free to put their own spin on the source material (for better or worse depending on your tastes) and have unique takes on the characters and stories. Each one of these films was different and did its own thing. There was no pressure to keep it comic book accurate - comics and films were still their own separate things, playing to their own strengths instead.

Hollywood also didn't shy away from the inherit camp of the genre. Yes, they were silly and terrible at times but there is a fun to this era that is missing from the current "golden age". Films like Batman Returns or Forever would never get made today, where the director is given free rein to do a take on an existing character as they see fit. Burton squeezed Batman into a Gothic Tim Burton world while Schumacher played up the Greek gods and h omo erotic aspects of the superhero genre (which going by some of the reactions to these figures on here is still an uncomfortable trigger for some)

These figures are pure nostalgia for that naiver yet also exciting era of superhero film making. I don't love the film, but these figures are too great to pass up for what they truly represent
 
The Batman Forever era is a throwback to a time when comic book movies were a cultural event and not the norm as is now. A time of genuine excitement over which actor was risking their career on a "kids? character", how they would be able to make it look on the big screen and who the villains would be chewing up the scenery.

Back when Hollywood treated them almost like a novelty genre like Sci-Fi and Fantasy with their inherit risks. They also were also free to put their own spin on the source material (for better or worse depending on your tastes) and have unique takes on the characters and stories. Each one of these films was different and did its own thing. There was no pressure to keep it comic book accurate - comics and films were still their own separate things, playing to their own strengths instead.

Hollywood also didn't shy away from the inherit camp of the genre. Yes, they were silly and terrible at times but there is a fun to this era that is missing from the current "golden age". Films like Batman Returns or Forever would never get made today, where the director is given free rein to do a take on an existing character as they see fit. Burton squeezed Batman into a Gothic Tim Burton world while Schumacher played up the Greek gods and h omo erotic aspects of the superhero genre (which going by some of the reactions to these figures on here is still an uncomfortable trigger for some)

These figures are pure nostalgia for that naiver yet also exciting era of superhero film making. I don't love the film, but these figures are too great to pass up for what they truly represent

If BF was a cultural event then what the heck was IW/EG!

Actually B&R was indeed a cultural event oh boy was it ever disregard you are right lol
 
Yeah I meant to type pop cultural event. In terms of the wider picture none of these things really mean anything!

I would argue though that Forever made a bigger impact in the year it was released then either IW or EG in theirs. Top selling soundtrack, 2 number 1 singles, extensive toyline, a McDonald happy meal set that people still remember, the nipple debate, and a longer theatrical run as was the way back then all contributed to it being more in the public conscience then and for longer then that years "Marvel movie" was.
 
Yeah I meant to type pop cultural event. In terms of the wider picture none of these things really mean anything!

I would argue though that Forever made a bigger impact in the year it was released then either IW or EG in theirs. Top selling soundtrack, 2 number 1 singles, extensive toyline, a McDonald happy meal set that people still remember, the nipple debate, and a longer theatrical run as was the way back then all contributed to it being more in the public conscience then and for longer then that years "Marvel movie" was.

I get what you are saying but the trailers alone for IW/EG were more culturally significant than BF

More people world wide watched those trailers than BF in its entire run

Yes I love BF song by that guy that was named after a shark meal lol
 
Yeah I meant to type pop cultural event. In terms of the wider picture none of these things really mean anything!

I would argue though that Forever made a bigger impact in the year it was released then either IW or EG in theirs. Top selling soundtrack, 2 number 1 singles, extensive toyline, a McDonald happy meal set that people still remember, the nipple debate, and a longer theatrical run as was the way back then all contributed to it being more in the public conscience then and for longer then that years "Marvel movie" was.

I still use the glass mug I got at McDonalds during their movie promo, and I still have the Sonar Batman and Robin figures set aside to match these Hot Toys. I think you are right, it was a huge pop culture event. I got tied up into it, and was ridiculously excited to see Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones as the villains. I bought into the Robin hype, and liked the movie origin story. I was ultimately let down by the film, but I didn?t really care because this was an event. My cousins and all of my friends had the soundtrack too.


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I think they both look great. People saying the Robin headsculpt isn’t good are crazy. I think it’s one of Hot Toys best.






It might be because it’s new, but I think this is Hot Toys’ best Batman yet. This isn’t a bias either. I prefer Keaton and Bale to all other interpretations, but this figure looks more realistic than the DX 09 Keaton, the Returns Keaton and Bale Hot Toys efforts.

I really hope the final product matches the prototype, this thing is sharp. If they retain that gloss sheen on everything, this is really going to stand out in a display with nice lights.
 
You guys are confusing BF with 89 Batman

89 was the IW/EG of that Batman series

Not and I repeat NOT BF lol

The Batmania of 1989 was a phenomenon. The likes of which we will probably never see again. Especially not for a comic book movie.

The hype of Forever in 95 was a step down on that but was still huge and an event in its own right.

Your Avenger movies are very nice and all Jye but they are just another a bit of white noise in the large IP obsessed Hollywood machine that now churns those films out every 3 - 6 months to replace the one before it. They make a splash at times but are quickly forgotten by the time the home rental starts.

They really don't really compare to what these older movies did at the time (in truth they are also to partly to blame for the current state of Hollywood but we will overlook that). :rotfl
 
Then how do you explain the Snyderverse? Homicidal Returns Batman has got nothing on Homicidal MOS Superman, lol.

Synder is probably the closest but he is still making films that run very close to the source material and takes most of it's decisions from it. It is really just his filter on other people's stories taken from previous comic books with costumes designed to match those books as much as possible. Look at Batfleck it is (rightly) praised as being the most comic accurate outfit Batman has had on screen.

I wouldn't say he had a completely blank cheque to do all he wanted to do as the others did.
 
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