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You don't even need the DC to see Superman was also a **** in that version.

This is a dude who gave up his powers and fully intended on leaving the world at the mercy of the kryptonians so he could pork Lois.

If that's not true calling, I don't know what it is, to drop it a the first sign of ********. :lol

Oh yeah, and that. :lol
 
Ah, right, the chute. So, after he fell down this "chute", where did he go? And go by what was shown in the final theatrical film please, not deleted scenes because well, they were deleted from the film. You know, since you're vetting and judging MoS by what was shown in the film that was released in theaters, and not its deleted scenes or extra footage. Gotta maintain a level playing field. Can't pick and choose. :)

By the way, that's (him falling down the "chute") after his hand and back were likely broken after the latter slammed into the side of the fortress, before plunging down the precipice. You know, being that Zod was mortal at this point and Supes still still possessed his power.

superman2ending222.gif~original


You're right. Zod's death in this particular manner was so much more humane.

As much as you want to think that I, or any other "MoS fan" is pointing out that Reeve's Supes killed Zod just to simply pick on Reeve's Supes as a way to feel better about a, what you apparently thought, was a horrible portrayal of Superman (which is perfectly fine), that's not the case at all. I'm merely judging both by what I saw in the theatrical film and what the apparent, intended implication is to the viewer. Like I mentioned, I'm not trying to connect dots that frankly just aren't there, nor looking to deleted scenes, extra footage or later released versions to use as evidence as to why something in the final theatrical released version of a film, did or didn't happen.

I enjoy both versions for what they are. :)

I've just rewatched the scene to refresh my memory...

firstly Superman breaks Zod's hand... practically crushes it. The he throws him into a column of solid Ice (or is it crystal) - either way, for anyone who's ever fell on their back ice skating, and knows how painful that is, imagine being thrown 30ft into solid ice by Superman... that's gonna break a few bones, possibly his spine! Then he slides down into an abyss, we can't see the bottom so it could be 100ft or more deep, however the establishing shot of the Fortress clearly shows it surrounded by water, so most likely it's freezing cold sea water at the bottom of that fall... falling into freezing cold sea water, with a broken hand and shattered spine... wouldn't last long without being saved by Superman - and judging by how the rest of the scene pans out, he was in no hurry.
So Reeve broke Zod's hand then paralysed him before letting him fall to an icy death, drowning in frozen sea water after rendering him powerless, and thus no threat... he smirked while doing it – whereas Cavill snapped Zod's neck to stop him from killing a family, initially - then everyone on the planet! He sobbed and was wracked with remorse after doing it.
Yeah, I know which one I think's worse! :wink1:

The argument against Reeve's Superman killing Zod is that 'you don't see him kill him' ...we if that's your argument, you don't see Cavill's Superman kill anybody in the Metropolis fight, but he still gets accused of it.
 
You don't even need the DC to see Superman was also a **** in that version.

This is a dude who gave up his powers and fully intended on leaving the world at the mercy of the kryptonians so he could pork Lois.

Well, in fairness he didn't even know about the other Kryptonians at that point in the film.
 
You don't even need the DC to see Superman was also a **** in that version.

This is a dude who gave up his powers and fully intended on leaving the world at the mercy of the kryptonians so he could pork Lois.

If that's not true calling, I don't know what it is, to drop it a the first sign of ********. :lol

Hey man,
To be fair, it wasn't just your regular ********, though. You ain't had the real deal unless you had crazy, naked bushlady ********.
 
Well, in fairness he didn't even know about the other Kryptonians at that point in the film.
Oh, let's not forget he literally freed the Kryptonians :lol

It doesn't matter if he didn't know, in the last movie Luthor succeded in using a nuke in his land land land plan, **** like this happens everyday in Supermanland, and he was willing and ready to leave the world unprotected just to pork a crazy ****y ***** who treats him like ****, And if we pretend for a moment that earth reversal ******** makes the slightest of sense, he went back in time, ignoring all warnings about ****ing up time itself, just to revive said *****. Not only he's selfish and dumb, he's a beta too :lol

I love Reeve Superman, he's the best incarnation of Superman in most ways, but the movies don't hold up all that great and in matters of a reckless Superman they're worse than MoS.

Hey man,
To be fair, it wasn't just your regular ********, though. You ain't had the real deal unless you had crazy, naked bushlady ********.
Now that I can get behind :lol
 
When I was a kid and saw the movies I didn't want to believe that Kent banged Lois or that Bruce Wayne got Vicki Vale drunk and shagged her. I was like "nah maaan, they're j-just sleeping together". :lol

Then I got older.
 
He wasn't Superman anymore, he was Supercuck.

I've come to appreciate SR a lot more lately though.

Yeah, it wasn't that horrible of a film as what people say it is. Though it essentially is a rehashed plot of the '78 film (Luthor seeking the ownership of land) and Routh was told to basically just be a Reeve clone. I thought BR did well though given he was told to just emulate someone else's portrayal of the character, as opposed to giving his own. He really looked the part, and it's unfortunate that he was never given the opportunity to do his own portrayal of the character.

It's still a good movie to pop in every now and then.
 
Ah, right, the chute. So, after he fell down this "chute", where did he go? And go by what was shown in the final theatrical film please, not deleted scenes because well, they were deleted from the film. You know, since you're vetting and judging MoS by what was shown in the film that was released in theaters, and not its deleted scenes or extra footage. Gotta maintain a level playing field. Can't pick and choose. :)

By the way, that's (him falling down the "chute") after his hand and back were likely broken after the latter slammed into the side of the fortress, before plunging down the precipice. You know, being that Zod was mortal at this point and Supes still still possessed his power.

superman2ending222.gif~original


You're right. Zod's death in this particular manner was so much more humane.

As much as you want to think that I, or any other "MoS fan" is pointing out that Reeve's Supes killed Zod just to simply pick on Reeve's Supes as a way to feel better about a, what you apparently thought, was a horrible portrayal of Superman (which is perfectly fine), that's not the case at all. I'm merely judging both by what I saw in the theatrical film and what the apparent, intended implication is to the viewer. Like I mentioned, I'm not trying to connect dots that frankly just aren't there, nor looking to deleted scenes, extra footage or later released versions to use as evidence as to why something in the final theatrical released version of a film, did or didn't happen.

I enjoy both versions for what they are. :)

Whatever, dude.
 
I've just rewatched the scene to refresh my memory...

firstly Superman breaks Zod's hand... practically crushes it. The he throws him into a column of solid Ice (or is it crystal) - either way, for anyone who's ever fell on their back ice skating, and knows how painful that is, imagine being thrown 30ft into solid ice by Superman... that's gonna break a few bones, possibly his spine! Then he slides down into an abyss, we can't see the bottom so it could be 100ft or more deep, however the establishing shot of the Fortress clearly shows it surrounded by water, so most likely it's freezing cold sea water at the bottom of that fall... falling into freezing cold sea water, with a broken hand and shattered spine... wouldn't last long without being saved by Superman - and judging by how the rest of the scene pans out, he was in no hurry.
So Reeve broke Zod's hand then paralysed him before letting him fall to an icy death, drowning in frozen sea water after rendering him powerless, and thus no threat... he smirked while doing it – whereas Cavill snapped Zod's neck to stop him from killing a family, initially - then everyone on the planet! He sobbed and was wracked with remorse after doing it.
Yeah, I know which one I think's worse! :wink1:

The argument against Reeve's Superman killing Zod is that 'you don't see him kill him' ...we if that's your argument, you don't see Cavill's Superman kill anybody in the Metropolis fight, but he still gets accused of it.

Indeed. Too many people tend to pick and choose, regardless of what the topic, situation or issue is. They will make a general assertion or statement, but only apply it to something they don't agree with or if they feel it benefits them, either or. Never both ways.
 
Looks like...
Ezra Flash / Barry Miller
... will be in this one too. I wonder if HT will make a SDCC exclusive out of his appearance. :lol
 
It's a very small scene for him. You don't get a good look at him. The costume wasn't even designed for the film yet. It's being worked on now, for justice. I wouldn't expect it to get a figure just yet.
 
It's a very small scene for him. You don't get a good look at him. The costume wasn't even designed for the film yet. It's being worked on now, for justice. I wouldn't expect it to get a figure just yet.

As someone who worked on the film, do you feel the latest trailer gave too much away?
 
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