Hot Toys Captain America

[The Mike]

Tony Stark is the Apple of the Marvel Universe. Either you get it or you don't. The iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS looked exactly the same yet had different functionalities and hardware differences like battery and processors. That is akin to the Mark III and the Mark IV, the changes cosmetically are minimal but overall different. The iPhone 4 is radically different in terms of shape and hardware but still recognizable as an iPhone keeping some of the original detail. Hence the Mark VI. Originally the script for Iron Man 2 had a bit where the new Arc put out so much power that Jarvis said it made the suit unstable, Tony prepped a new suit from the existing Mark plan and the metal accents were sprung from unfinished parts. That scene was scrapped early but it wasn't that necessary as the viewers pretty much inferred new suit for new arc. The iPhone 5 will be only minorly cosmetically different as will the Mark VII from the sight of this and I'm fine with it. In the comics Tony has over 250 Marks some with literally color changes just because he can. The constant change in the films serve two fold to pay homage to that and to merchandise, plain and simple. The more you try to dissect it, the further down a dead end you travel. He builds various Marks because he can. It reflects a car collection for example.

It should be noted that before the Modular Armor in the 1990s Tony went up head to head against the Hulk plenty of times with his standard suit and even beat him a couple of times. The Hulkbuster I came out of a writer's attempt to James Bond the Tony Stark persona of "a differen gadget for every situation" only with Mark suits. I don't really see the need for the Hulkbuster especially considering the relative strength of the film Marks versus the Modular Armor that needed upgrades to function almost every issue but it'd be cool to see.

 

[karamazov80]

Good point. Hot Toys Cap is gonna be pretty awesome.

 

[The Mike]

Hopefully all three of them. Seeing The Avengers suit and knowing the 1940s suit, I want the USO suit even more to show a nice progression on my shelves

 

[jye4ever]

C'mon boys and girls, take a breather, no need for gloves to come off over Iron Man movie suit designs.

They are what they are, if you don't agree with them then that's your opinion but please don't go creating battles over your personal feelings.

 

[jye4ever]

Tony Stark is the Apple of the Marvel Universe. Either you get it or you don't. The iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS looked exactly the same yet had different functionalities and hardware differences like battery and processors. That is akin to the Mark III and the Mark IV, the changes cosmetically are minimal but overall different. The iPhone 4 is radically different in terms of shape and hardware but still recognizable as an iPhone keeping some of the original detail. Hence the Mark VI. Originally the script for Iron Man 2 had a bit where the new Arc put out so much power that Jarvis said it made the suit unstable, Tony prepped a new suit from the existing Mark plan and the metal accents were sprung from unfinished parts. That scene was scrapped early but it wasn't that necessary as the viewers pretty much inferred new suit for new arc. The iPhone 5 will be only minorly cosmetically different as will the Mark VII from the sight of this and I'm fine with it. In the comics Tony has over 250 Marks some with literally color changes just because he can. The constant change in the films serve two fold to pay homage to that and to merchandise, plain and simple. The more you try to dissect it, the further down a dead end you travel. He builds various Marks because he can. It reflects a car collection for example.

It should be noted that before the Modular Armor in the 1990s Tony went up head to head against the Hulk plenty of times with his standard suit and even beat him a couple of times. The Hulkbuster I came out of a writer's attempt to James Bond the Tony Stark persona of "a differen gadget for every situation" only with Mark suits. I don't really see the need for the Hulkbuster especially considering the relative strength of the film Marks versus the Modular Armor that needed upgrades to function almost every issue but it'd be cool to see.

Worth repeating

 

[Centrocal]

The iPhone 5

THE WHAAAAAA?!

 

[Murderofcrows71]

I think I'll have to pass on the WWII version and buy the Avengers Hot toys Cap figure. The modern suit looks awesome!

 

[The Entity]

So what do you guys think the chances are of HT making a new Black Widow figure from The Avengers film?

I'd love to have all those characters that are on that awesome poster in figure form, but I skipped on the BW fig from IM2.
There are some minor tweaks to the costume it seems but I'm not sure if it fully warrants a new figure...

If they don't make a new one I could see the IM2 BW becoming quite expensive...

 

[RaZaTrOn]

The only tweaks I can see are the boots and knee guards.

There is a possibility that the films Black Widow will have short hair because this artwork may have been based on pre-viz sketches/designs.

I think that Hot Toys really should do all of the Avengers and have boxes like the Iron Man 2 ones that connect together.

However it's most likely that Black Widow will be one of the last to be made (along with Thor). Hopefully Hot Toys want to improve on their previous design and sort out the hair, breasts and ass issue.

If she does have shorter hair in the film hopefully Hot Toys will use sculpted hair.

 

[The Mike]

Honestly I think the totem would go like this:

1. Iron Man Mark VII (proven seller)
2. Captain America Modern Uniform
3. Hawkeye
4. The Hulk
5. Black Widow
6. Thor

If you didn't already have them I'd snatch up the current Thor and BW just in case.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I agree with that.

I think there are two Marks in the Avengers. Mark VII and VIII. I'm sure one will have space flight capabilities if rumours are true.

I have no doubt Hawkeye will be released really close to one of the other Avengers.

 

[karamazov80]

I don't mean to be a jerk about this, but really, this is the wrong thread for this discussion. If you fellas persist with the OT posts, I'm just gonna delete them. Please refer to Mike's thread here for the general Avengers movie discussion:

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36415

 

[The Entity]

I don't mean to be a jerk about this, but really, this is the wrong thread for this discussion. If you fellas persist with the OT posts, I'm just gonna delete them. Please refer to Mike's thread here for the general Avengers movie discussion:

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36415

Yeah, but we are talking about Hot Toys Avengers figures... It's not extremely off topic is it?
If we start talking HT in the movie thread, people will start moaning about the HT fans taking over a thread again...

We could make a HT Avengers speculations thread?
But as far as I know, all the different HT threads aren't really appreciated either... (and for good reason BTW... silly polls and petitions )

Not meaning to start a fight or anything BTW

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, but we are talking about Hot Toys Avengers figures... It's not extremely off topic is it?
If we start talking HT in the movie thread, people will start moaning about the HT fans taking over a thread again...

We could make a HT Avengers speculations thread?
But as far as I know, all the different HT threads aren't really appreciated either... (and for good reason BTW... silly polls and petitions )

Not meaning to start a fight or anything BTW

Honestly, if you would prefer to start an HT Avengers speculation thread, feel free. It probably warrants its own thread now that information about the film is starting to trickle in. But from my reading, most of the discussion here was about speculation as to what the different Iron Man armors were, what he's gonna look like in the movie, what the different costumes were like for all the characters, etc., with some HT discussion thrown into the mix.

I don't mod the movie section, so I might not have a handle on what's acceptable there. But an HT Avengers speculation discussion seems a better fit there than here IMO, where there were several pages of non-Cap Avengers discussions. And I say that's not what this thread is for. It's about the HT Cap figure/license, from his own movie. OT posts are OK here and there, but it was taking over this thread.

 

[The Entity]

Honestly, if you would prefer to start an HT Avengers speculation thread, feel free. It probably warrants its own thread now that information about the film is starting to trickle in. But from my reading, most of the discussion here was about speculation as to what the different Iron Man armors were, what he's gonna look like in the movie, what the different costumes were like for all the characters, etc., with some HT discussion thrown into the mix.

I don't mod the movie section, so I might not have a handle on what's acceptable there. But an HT Avengers speculation discussion seems a better fit there than here IMO, where there were several pages of non-Cap Avengers discussions. And I say that's not what this thread is for. It's about the HT Cap figure/license, from his own movie. OT posts are OK here and there, but it was taking over this thread.

Right! Got ya!

 

[karamazov80]

Right! Got ya!

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[Darkseed]

I wonder if Cap will be a one hit wonder? Didn't fair well in the HT poll and being a clearly American hero might not bode well for sales overseas. Not unlike HT to miss out on cool characters.

 

[karamazov80]

I think he'll sell. The poll, as has been suggested elsewhere, was a bit loaded. HT has had a history of going after various Marvel and DC movie characters, so Superman, Batman, and Cap were probably assumed to be coming by the poll respondents. Though announced, Sucker Punch and MGS were less sure bets to actually get released, which probably facilitated their winning the poll (fans hoping HT would be more likely to release them if they won the poll).

I think Cap is a very iconic looking character, is a known commodity outside the U.S., and will sell pretty well despite the baggage that comes with him wearing the U.S. flag.

 

[Darkseed]

^^^^ I hope so a Red Skull would be awesome. Since I am still waiting for Loki

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I think people who aren't familiar with him from the source material won't buy him unless they see the film and get a feel for the character from that.

I say this because when you mention Captain America, if you have no idea who he is, it conjures up images of some patriotic ****** who thinks he is the best. But Captain America is far from that.

He stands for all what is good in humanity no matter what colour your skin is or what God(s) you worship. Not only that but he is just a regular guy with no outstanding qualities and if people can grasp that from the films the he will sell like hot cakes.