Hot Toys DX Bespin Luke Skywalker

[Lee in MI]

You're funny, and so is the noob moniker. I've been collecting since - forever, and you seem to be the one trolling with inflammatory comments, defending an indefensible argument. I've been reading the thread right along, and posting also. You're the one who's being a little illogical and more than a little uncivil. SSC are making a STAP for their 1/6 BDs, not HT figures. They are making a cantina for their Han and Greedo and Figrin D'an the Modal Nodes (knew I forgot stuff!). They are making a Dewback for their Sandtrooper(s). HT has stated they are making 1 SW figure a year, i think SSC might be a little hard pressed to make a ton of money solely creating environments, vehicles, and creatures for HT 1/6 figures alone. All the evidence supports a continued SSC support for the 1/6 SW line (and why wouldn't they? It's a highly lucrative license). Right now, I'd say it is YOU who are trolling? Who needs a hug?

You being a Noob has nothing to do with how long you've been collecting. As a matter of fact, that statement alone just makes my point. The Noob comment is based on those little stats right under your name at the upper left side of the page...go ahead...take a look.

Ok, maybe trolling was a little harsh but you totally missed my point when you jumped into the conversation between me and two other board members. You were talking about a whole nother issue with several other people.

I'll re-state, I'm talking about SSCs entire body of work...and of course the last line they allowed HTs to get a piece of, they just basically stepped out.

You can call my argument indefensible but that's just your opinion and as you might already know, it ain't worth shat...well maybe $.02

 

[Khonsu70]

Yes! I get it! But why? I'm not saying Sideshow isn't doing them, but why can't HT be doing at least one of the figures while Sideshow does the tauntaun? Where is it written?

Because Howard Chan says that going slow and producing one SW figure a year will produce better quality? (and I tend to believe him) The official specs and pics for Luke haven't even been revealed yet, so even if this fig does get a 1st quarter 2012 release (and I think that optimistic), I'd say it would be awhile before they get to Hoth Han or Luke - and really, I'd hope they chose to do Chewbacca before either of those (this is a core character we've gone without for too long, and it has NEVER been done right in the 1/6 scale.)

 

[Lee in MI]

I don't know the contractual details. I know that the first one is Luke and it sounded like HT would be doing figures SS had already done. Allowing SS to concentrate going forward with new stuff while HT redid things.



Yes, those are their two lines with 1:6th figures and they've done a crap pile of figures the last 2 years alone. So saying they're getting out just really makes no sense at all. HT wanted to do some SW figures SS leasing part of the license to have them redo things allows them to do that. Problem solved.



I did. Thanks.



They didn't kill it. They just didn't sell. Thats the fact of the matter. I do. Statues has always been the best way to represent LOTR and these are doing just that.

Once again Josh, I didn't say, "They are getting out of 1/6th!". I said it seemed like that because they've dropped all the other lines and now HTs is on board with them with SWs with a full court press. I said who knows. I never stated that I had on full authority from my SSCs contacts that they are done with 1/6th! If you could read and breath at the same time while trying to defend these guys, you'd see that.

And I know they didn't sell as well as SSCs would have liked, but a lie is a lie no matter what the excuse/ reason.

 

[Lee in MI]

We should spray all Noobs with that stuff!!!

Go ahead Khonsu, spray some in your face and go away

 

[Khonsu70]

We should spray all Noobs with that stuff!!!

Go ahead Khonsu, spray some in your face and go away

::yawn:: Okay, how 'bout I stay and you go regroup until you have an argument that can stand up to scrutiny and that doesn't rely on playground name-calling - okay, thanks, buh-bye!

 

[The Josh]

Once again Josh, I didn't say, "They are getting out of 1/6th!". I said it seemed like that because they've dropped all the other lines and now HTs is on board with them with SWs with a full court press. I said who knows. I never stated that I had on full authority from my SSCs contacts that they are done with 1/6th! If you could read and breath at the same time while trying to defend these guys, you'd see that.

If you want to think it seems lol) like they are go right ahead and continue seeming away. They've still got two which are pumping out figures at a pretty decent rate with a third line on the way. Seems like it to me that they're quite ok with being in the 1:6th game. Also HT doing 1 figure right now and it not sounding like many too often is a full court press?

 

[Lee in MI]

::yawn:: Okay, how 'bout I stay and you go regroup until you have an argument that can stand up to scrutiny and that doesn't rely on playground name-calling - okay, thanks, buh-bye!

Awww, you got your little feelings hurt...don't be so serious

 

[The Josh]

Alright debate and back and forth is one thing. Lets really stay away from the name calling. K thnx

 

[Lee in MI]

If you want to think it seems lol) like they are go right ahead and continue seeming away. They've still got two which are pumping out figures at a pretty decent rate with a third line on the way. Seems like it to me that they're quite ok with being in the 1:6th game. Also HT doing 1 figure right now and it not sounding like many too often is a full court press?

When they go from technical support to making full blown figures, that's what I call it.

If they are so secure with their line, why let HTs in on it's success? Just because?!?!

 

[Lee in MI]

Alright debate and back and forth is one thing. Lets really stay away from the name calling. K thnx

WOW! You two are really strung too tight!

Maybe it's just getting a little late for you guys

Didn't know referring to someone as a "Noob" was offensive. Especially when they are "new".

 

[Gipetto0812]

Because Howard Chan says that going slow and producing one SW figure a year will produce better quality? (and I tend to believe him) The official specs and pics for Luke haven't even been revealed yet, so even if this fig does get a 1st quarter 2012 release (and I think that optimistic), I'd say it would be awhile before they get to Hoth Han or Luke - and really, I'd hope they chose to do Chewbacca before either of those (this is a core character we've gone without for too long, and it has NEVER been done right in the 1/6 scale.)

gotta agree with you there man. Chewie needs to be done. And "real" fur is the only way to go IMO. Plastic just won't look right. And I think that's why HT needs to be the ones to make Chewie. If memory serves me right, SS has not done a figure with fur like parts. I know they've done rooted hair (only the Kate Beckensale from Van Helsing is all I know if), but that doesn't compare to HT doing a few planet of the apes figures with fur.

 

[The Josh]

When they go from technical support to making full blown figures, that's what I call it.

If they are so secure with their line, why let HTs in on it's success? Just because?!?!

1 figure is a full court press. ok

Because they've developed a good relationship and this is a way to let HT do something its always wanted to do. Its the old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

WOW! You two are really strung too tight!

Maybe it's just getting a little late for you guys

I'm saying that as a Mod. Debate is one thing. Namecalling and getting a thread OT for that reason is another. Edit: I'm saying that to both. It looked like it might go down a path of getting pissy over nothing.

 

[Khonsu70]

I think you're wrong BM. Seems to me, SSCs has steadily been moving OUT the 1/6th market for awhile now.

Once again Josh, I didn't say, "They are getting out of 1/6th!".

You should be in politics!

Seriosuly, I'm done busting your hump now. I'm really not hating on you, but I do disagree with you. And because I'm a "noob" does not mean I don't know what's going on, what a conversation is about, or that I'm not entitled to an opinion. Because you have been on this forum longer, it doesn't make you better or an expert. Free exchange of ideas and information is what a forum is about, not elitism. I know full well what your conversation was about, because I read it from the outset - you are twisting the content of that conversation seven ways to Sunday to prove some kind of point, and doing a pale imitation of Thenam's anti-noob stance when someone chose to take an opposing view. It's been kinda entertaining in a train-wreck sorta way...

 

[Lee in MI]

You should be in politics!

Seriosuly, I'm done busting your hump now. I'm really not hating on you, but I do disagree with you. And because I'm a "noob" does not mean I don't know what's going on, what a conversation is about, or that I'm not entitled to an opinion. Because you have been on this forum longer, it doesn't make you better or an expert. Free exchange of ideas and information is what a forum is about, not elitism. I know full well what your conversation was about, because I read it from the outset - you are twisting the content of that conversation seven ways to Sunday to prove some kind of point, and doing a pale imitation of Thenam's anti-noob stance when someone chose to take an opposing view. It's been kinda entertaining in a train-wreck sorta way...

Whoa...who's the politician

I haven't twisted my argument, you and Josh have cause you disagree. The fact is SSCs use to have many licensed 1/6th lines that they produced. Over the years they've slowly backed out of that practice... And thats a fact. You can choose to ignore it (as a Noob, you might as your knowledge might be limited) just to strengthen your own opinion and thats cool but like I said, it ain't worth shat. Being a Noob doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. It just puts your opinion in question in my book. How do I know you didn't just start 1/6th collecting when you joined this site? Many do...you could be one of them.

And in this case, your whole argument is based on just the SWs line and I wasn't framing my opinion just off of that.

Sorry your feelings got hurt. Maybe you'll have better luck in another thread Bye

 

[Lee in MI]

1 figure is a full court press. ok

Because they've developed a good relationship and this is a way to let HT do something its always wanted to do. Its the old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.



I'm saying that as a Mod. Debate is one thing. Namecalling and getting a thread OT for that reason is another. Edit: I'm saying that to both. It looked like it might go down a path of getting pissy over nothing.

Its only one figure so far. I seriously doubt that's all there will be

And I find that whole scratch my back deal suspect just based on past performance.

What are you talking about Bro?!?! I called that Noob a Noob and still stayed OT!

 

[OSCORP]

Hot Toys 1/6 king = glad they're doing some SW now!

LOL@Josh Still defending SS at every cornor.

Back on topic?

 

[thenammagazine]

Hot Toys 1/6 king = glad they're doing some SW now!

LOL@Josh Still defending SS at every cornor.

Back on topic?

1. cornor :

An ancient Chinese apothecary specializing in poisonous elixirs.

"I'm going to see Mr. Moo down at the cornor to obtain some elixirs so i can assassinate the emperor."

 

[Khonsu70]

Whoa...who's the politician

I really think you'd be a great politician, with the amount of back-pedalling you've done...

I haven't twisted my argument,

Uh, yes you have, several times...

you and Josh have cause you disagree.

Pretty sure we were sticking to facts?

The fact is SSCs use to have many licensed 1/6th lines that they produced. Over the years they've slowly backed out of that practice... And thats a fact.

How many Monty Python and Universal monsters figures can they make? There are only so many characters...

So they abandoned some lines that were crappy sellers, like LOTR - what business doesn't do that? For example, lots of toy companies have tried properties like Indiana Jones and failed. Medicom clocked in at 2 1/6 figs ( Indy and Dr. Henry Jones Sr.), Toys McCoy made Indy and reused a horse from another line for the arabian horse before throwing in the towel, and even HT is having mixed results before the first Indy fig even has been released, based on a poor prototype. SSC produced several Indy figs in the 1/6 line, which were met with mixed reviews, and have since stopped making further Indy figs, opting instead to make a single complimentary environement to what is likely to be a one-shot figure for HT - is it fair to use that as evidence that SSC is moving away from 1/6 figures? It doesn't necessarily follow that they've turned their backs on the format altogether, it means they stick with what sells. And you've done a fair amount of "Oh, I wasn't talking about this line, or that type of 1/6 product" to try to buttress your flawed argument.

You can choose to ignore it (as a Noob, you might as your knowledge might be limited)

That's a heck of an assumption, and erroneous at that...

just to strengthen your own opinion and thats cool but like I said, it ain't worth shat. Being a Noob doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. It just puts your opinion in question in my book.

You're calling me names and saying I don't rate in your book - how will I go on?

How do I know you didn't just start 1/6th collecting when you joined this site? Many do...you could be one of them.

Oh no! You've uncovered my deep, dark secret! The fact that I rattled off a bunch of information that I could only have known if I were a long term collector means nothing...

And in this case, your whole argument is based on just the SWs line and I wasn't framing my opinion just off of that.

Erm, then why are you in a thread dedicated to HT Bespin Luke arguing the point? Shouldn't you create a new thread called "Sideshow leaving the 1/6 format behind?" so you you can ACTUALLY be on topic with your enlightened opinion? Or is that above my "noob" head?

Sorry your feelings got hurt. Maybe you'll have better luck in another thread Bye

My feelings could only be hurt by someone who's opinion I respect, so I'm good, thanks!

 

[Rzeznikk]

Agreed. A key selling point. I don't see why they wouldn't have had it lit up in the display at SDCC.

Well if HT is going to throw everything AND the kitchen sink into the box, its not hard to believe a LED is out of the question.

Plus HT is known to include light up features to their other lines.

Plus, if Medi/Enterbays UU had it, HT is known to always put one over Enterbay. (look at the current UU Jack VS DX Jack)

I would be surprised this doesn't come with a LED like lightsaber like the UU Luke did.

 

[Spicymustard]

As amazing as this looks, I could sort of go without having the exact same character in nearly identical outfits packaged together. The battled damaged version hanging from the stand may as well be a statue, you don't have much freedom in how to pose him.

In a perfect world, if they are going to give us two outfits, I'd much prefer an entirely different scene, like the flight outfit or a tattooine outfit. If it's going to be nearly twice the price, I'd prefer just having one of the two.

Anyways, I'm jonesing for this luke, so can't be too picky.