Hot Toys DX Indiana Jones announced + Star Wars teaser

[FLOSI]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

Right on all accounts cking... this really shows how far away this proto is... the sculpt doesn't even look like the same person and the hat is just altogether wrong.

And just think, this is only looking at the head and hat.... There's issues with the rest as well. I hate to quote Nam again (no, I don't) but the quality craftsmanship that so many have put into making high quality custom Indy items will be hard to top, even for HT.

 

[MaulFan]

It's hard for any mass produce item to compete with a custom, just having to go through a production process and the numbers produced will force concessions a one off doesn't have to deal with.

However, HT can compete with themselves and among all of their releases of the past year, it would seem like this one is one of their weaker efforts. I;m not judging the sculpt when I say that but some of the costuming and accessories, seems like they're of with some fairly blatant things.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Because of the whole 'whose worse, complainers or complainers about complainers' argument probably.

As I recall people were preemptively striking out against people complaining simply because they expected it when in fact there was no one complaining....at least not to any extreme as might be seen elsewhere.

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

but i can't blame the ones that complain every now and then. i just wish they'd do it in a more civilized manner. i mean, on one side, people say "oh it looks like his stunt double"...which to people like us who think this figure is spot on, take it as an insult and lash out by talking smack about SSC's ver and this will go on until the end of ****ing time. i look at SSC's sculpt, it has the essence of ford, but i don't like a few things, over sized head, and lack of personality...oh and pisspoor paintjob. slap a different coat of paint, he still lacks personality and will ONLY be good for one pose...standing.

like when wolverine was shown, i personally did NOT see hugh jackman in that sculpt. i see logan, but not jackman, and of course, you have those that swear by the sculpt and you can't argue with people that have their minds already made up. also, you can't argue with people that approach things with a level of animosity.

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER. out of 10 people, 3-4 are gonna step out and complain...there's no way around it. personally, i am with dino...i also can't believe how some can't see ford in this sculpt. on the other hand, i'm sure those on the other end can't believe how i, along with dino and others, see ford in this sculpt.

when HTs jones is released, i'll be picking up 2. i don't see the need for any revisions. it looks like ford, has personality, great paintjob, proportioned head, and best of all, PERS. if they do make revisions, all that needs to be done IMO is to soften his cheekbones, that's all.

 

[DinoLast]

The PF looks great, I always said that even when the 'It looks like Ron Pearlman' comments were being made, but you can't compare two completely different expressions.

 

[Kuzeh]

Of the many official faces of ROTLA Indy, the HT is the most impressive and promising.

yep, thanks for putting things in perspective...
While not perfect, I think HT's will be the best 1/6 Indy to date...

I'm sorry I get opinions, but you ass clowns who actually said that Sideshow's out of the box is all around better shouldn't be driving.

Besides, comparing it to the 1/4 PF is lame...

 

[Darth Waller]

I've got a $25 GC burning a whole in my Sideshow wallet that expires on the 31st. Very tempted to get the Belloq EX since Sideshow's idol chamber looks better than HT's.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Right on all accounts cking... this really shows how far away this proto is... the sculpt doesn't even look like the same person and the hat is just altogether wrong.

And just think, this is only looking at the head and hat.... There's issues with the rest as well. I hate to quote Nam again (no, I don't) but the quality craftsmanship that so many have put into making high quality custom Indy items will be hard to top, even for HT.

ok, IMO, as you've shared yours, is yeah, the PF looks like ford. but i don't like it because to me, it looks like it was sculpted by someone that draws caricatures of celebrities in those MAD comics back in the day. what i mean by that is, features are usually more pronounced and exaggerated, but it captures the essence of the person, therefore making him look familiar.

i'm chinese, and even i want to say "whats up with his eyes? is this short round post 'wanna look like Doctor jones' surgery?"

what makes the PF sculpt stand out, IMO, is that he managed to capture that lazy lip thing that ford does at times. what the DX ver did is capture his intense look, which he does many times, but for some or many here, they all remember him most when he's ACTING and his expression is more whimsical. a face he did that stands out for me is from ToD..."WE.ARE GOING.TO DIE!!! =(". personally, it would be amazing and above and beyond if HT did that sculpt.

anyway, this is my opinion on the PF and DX comparison. i see ford in both sculpts.

 

[DinoLast]

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

but i can't blame the ones that complain every now and then. i just wish they'd do it in a more civilized manner. i mean, on one side, people say "oh it looks like his stunt double"...which to people like us who think this figure is spot on, take it as an insult and lash out by talking smack about SSC's ver and this will go on until the end of ****ing time. i look at SSC's sculpt, it has the essence of ford, but i don't like a few things, over sized head, and lack of personality...oh and pisspoor paintjob. slap a different coat of paint, he still lacks personality and will ONLY be good for one pose...standing.

like when wolverine was shown, i personally did NOT see hugh jackman in that sculpt. i see logan, but not jackman, and of course, you have those that swear by the sculpt and you can't argue with people that have their minds already made up. also, you can't argue with people that approach things with a level of animosity.

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER. out of 10 people, 3-4 are gonna step out and complain...there's no way around it. personally, i am with dino...i also can't believe how some can't see ford in this sculpt. on the other hand, i'm sure those on the other end can't believe how i, along with dino and others, see ford in this sculpt.

when HTs jones is released, i'll be picking up 2. i don't see the need for any revisions. it looks like ford, has personality, great paintjob, proportioned head, and best of all, PERS. if they do make revisions, all that needs to be done IMO is to soften his cheekbones, that's all.

That's what gets me, somebody will come out and say it looks like the guy in Last Crusade who gives Indy the hat (Garth), but give no reason for this because they really don't mean it, because they are just trying to be funny. Even though I don't agree with it, I actually like the post with the PF comparison, because at least cking is giving reasons as to why he thinks the sculpt is off, and this allows me to respond in a sensible manner

 

[Asta]

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER.

yep, thanks for putting things in perspective...
While not perfect, I think HT's will be the best 1/6 Indy to date...

Balance and perpective are needed. The facts are normally in the middle, and not at either extreme.

HT are great but they aren't infallible. The DX Joker is incredible, but it was their third attempt to perfect the likeness.

HT Indy is already looking good to me. He may well be the equivalent of Joker #1 or #2. He may even emerge as the equivalent of the DX Joker when HT are done with him. I think it's too early to write him off, as we haven't yet had the privilege of properly lit studio shots.

 

[a-dev]

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

 

[DiFabio]

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

It doesn't look like Arnold......... it looks like Uncle Bob.

 

[DinoLast]

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

We also got the 'It only looks like Arnie 60%, and it looks off, but I cant say why' gang

 

[small_studios]

Things that i noticed off the bat was the shape of the nose. HT sculpt has to much of a hook on the end and it comes out to far. If they brought it in alittle and rounded out the front more it would help. Also the shape of eyes needs to be refined just a smidge. The arch of the eye brows are also throwing off the likeness they are to thick. This is probably due to the paint application and not the actual sculpt. And someone else mentioned it too that the cheek bones may be to pronounced. The sculpt is just about there but not quite.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Balance and perpective are needed. The facts are normally in the middle, and not at either extreme.

HT are great but they aren't infallible. The DX Joker is incredible, but it was their third attempt to perfect the likeness.

HT Indy is already looking good to me. He may well be the equivalent of Joker #1 or #2. He may even emerge as the equivalent of the DX Joker when HT are done with him. I think it's too early to write him off, as we haven't yet had the privilege of properly lit studio shots.

i agree that HT aren't perfect, i don't think anyone here has said that ever. even the most diehard fan has to realize this as well. hell, it took them 3-5 attempts at RDJ to really nail him down, and even with his latest sculpt, it's him alright, but IMO (gotta keep saying this to remind people that its just an OPINION), he is not a DX joker level. bank robber joker at best, and even that was an amazing sculpt. remember JC's personal paint job of him??

and yes, i agree, with properly lit shots, maybe it'll help soothe the naysayers, but at this moment in time, i'm already sold.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

this is a more appropriate comparison.

yea i was the one that mentioned about the cheeks, but this is a much better comparison shot. angle is closer to the pic.

 

[Mr.E]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast.

 

[DinoLast]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast.

We are not bickering, if anything I think there are some good for and against posts coming out now. Trust me this is nothing compared to some threads

 

[DarthNeil]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast.

Request denied. Virtual bickering (as long as it's civilized) is what the internet was designed for...

 

[a-dev]

In any case my opinion lands an exaggerated sounding Indiana Jones knockout punch upon all others...prompting many wilhelm screams.

 

[small_studios]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.