Hot Toys - MMS 106 - Alien - BIG CHAP collectible figure

[abake]

Somebody was asking exactly what was wrong or inaccurate about the HT alien, so here's the list I put up a while back with the help of other keen observers.

Mind you, this is for the anal retentive, accuracy-nazi folks.
Or just for those who really love the Giger design.

I sent HT reference pics, including pics of other -accurate- collectibles over a year ago, foreseeing the fact that they would eventually make a figure of the iconic Giger creation.
Besides, this monster has been documented to death for years. It's not really obscure, the info is available everywhere on the net.
And HT knew that the fans were expecting an accurate rendition of the alien, because we (the vocal, accuracy nazi minority) have been telling them we want accurate aliens since they first previewed their Aliens figure years ago.

Since there's a lot of people asking just how it is inaccurate, here's the revised list I put up with the inaccuracies that can be seen from the pics posted here.

Hands: the sixth finger is wrong, it's actually a second thumb, not just another finger.

Arms: there is extra ribbing on the inside of the forearms which shouldn't be there.

Skull: the shape of the skull is wrong, it is way too "evil" looking and back slanting. It has to have a much more human look.

Dorsal Pipes: The fifth spike (upper center) looks wrong in shape. Also, the spines have the wrong of shape.

Mouth: the teeth are the wrong shape and there's too much lips. The actual lips were translucent, so failing that, I would prefer no lips, especially the upper lip. Also, there is an extra tube coming out of the lower jaw, check the reference pics.

Shoulders: after reviewing the pics, I do believe they look right, what do you guys think?

Torso: the ribs end too soon, they should go further back.

Neck: it looks wrong, too wide and some of the detailing looks invented, but I can't really tell from the pics.

Hips: again, there seem to be extra tubes/ribbing that weren't there (on second thought, maybe it's not wrong, would have to get a better view)

Legs: fantastically wrong! Again there's ribbing on the inside of the calves, and as SS pointed out, what's with the muscle? Also, the three "bars" on the back of the leg (towards the ankle) look to be the wrong shape.

Feet: can't see much, but it seems they're missing the oxen jaws.

Tail: can't really see the shape, but it should be very flat at the base, getting rounder as it goes to the tip. But I couldn't find any good reference pics, although both the Medicom and NECA figures have the tail in that configuration.

 

[abake]

And the top three in accuracy, IMHO.
Notice that they all look slightly different, but still capture the essence and the look of Giger's creation.

Part deux:

As for overall look and proportions, here's the actual suit with Bolaji Badejo inside:

And the original sculpture made by Giger that was used to make the castings for the suit:

Here's Medicom's:

And NECA's:

And Marmit's statue:

For the record, I like the proportions on the HT figure.

 

[RIDDICK]

Personally for Joseph Tsang:

Buy "Alien Quadrology" and watch it 99 times in a row!!!
*Ok ok, with a short breaks to eat*

 

[abake]

???? Pish-tosh ... WHOA, younger Bruddah (Self elected expert-weenie) ... so sorry to hear you are burdened with this problem. Junior ... I actually thought I 'knew something' and all our opinion(s) counted, not just yours ... I guess you really might be as dumb, clueless, inexperienced, and naive as I think you are ... I can live w/ HT's Alien design all day long ... And show us some (non photoshoped) pics of THE ALIEN you speak of ... Hint: Your sig is a good start ... I'll have another Big Mac, please ... hold the fries ...

But throttle back ... 'We' are all in this together ... Let's try to keep focused here ... the thread is about the Hot Toys Alien, not about 'Sabres' dislike of the figure (That he states he'll buy anyway) ...

Are we done here??? In case we are ... CLOSED.

Dude, you're not making much sense...
As for the pics you keep asking for, they're all over the place, and they all show that the HT alien is off. It's pretty easy to see if you only look. You've said you can live with HT's design, and that's fine. That is one discussion, which is about taste and preference. It's subjective and there is no right or wrong.
The other discussion is about accuracy, and that is pretty much objective and founded on facts and proof, i.e. photos of the props.

 

[abake]

Height comparison (from Toyworld):

So where's all the height/scale nazis now?

But seriously, why is the figure always posed with bent legs? Is it not possible to stand it up straight?

 

[ChaserFan]

I never knew Alien had a Terminator arm..........a new hybrid perhaps?

As you were...............

 

[FACEBOX]

It's pointless abake.
He thinks the HT alien is accurate, and we shouldn't hold it against him because there are levels of accuracy some are willing to accept.
10 fingers and 10 toes are enough for some, while like you, I like to see each hair in the correct place. Meaning, it's just a matter of taste.

The discussion has become more of a personal attack rather than constructive criticism about the figure. I think we should all agree to disagree, purchase the figure (or not) and move on. There's nothing else any of us can do at this point.

All in all, I think everyone here can tell that it's a "cool" figure.
(Artistically interpreted, but none the less cool)

 

[Sabres21768]

As I've said before, inaccuracies aside, I like the figure.

Certainly not the best Alien interpretation I've seen, but also not the worst.

But it IS NOT accurate. And I certainly won't stand idly by while someone comes on here and says that it is.

And yes, there is a certain amount of "anger" at Hot Toys' failure to try to get this as accurate as possible.
Especially after seeing what great lengths they're going to with most of their other figures to get them right for the fans.

As Abake has shown, there is FAR too much reference material out there to not get it right.

 

[Shai]

The Medicom is the sexiest.

 

[P.]

or those who still can't see where the inaccuracies lie, I thought I'd compare it with the NECA version.

"for those who still don't know how an elefant should look like, i'd compare a crocodile with a penguin".

neca is the same crap.

 

[FACEBOX]

"for those who still don't know how an elefant should look like, i'd compare a crocodile with a penguin".

neca is the same crap.

You make absolutely NO sense!
I'm not comparing it to a Predator!?

Please try again.

 

[Kuzeh]

Well it's out in HK!

Hot Toys Backstage:

I guess I'm in the minority here, but...
looks good to me!!! !!

 

[prefused]

The Medicom is the sexiest.

well, potentially... if someone repainted it and fixed the hands.
other than that, it's pretty much dead-on.

also, it's cheaper.

You make absolutely NO sense!
I'm not comparing it to a Predator!?

Please try again.

that's the kind of argument you get from "aerospace engineers". it's just way over your head, man.
clearly, someone with predanator's lousy attitude and thin skin could accomplish what he claims on the internet.

 

[shockwave]

As I've said before, inaccuracies aside, I like the figure.

Certainly not the best Alien interpretation I've seen, but also not the worst.

But it IS NOT accurate. And I certainly won't stand idly by while someone comes on here and says that it is.

And yes, there is a certain amount of "anger" at Hot Toys' failure to try to get this as accurate as possible.
Especially after seeing what great lengths they're going to with most of their other figures to get them right for the fans.

As Abake has shown, there is FAR too much reference material out there to not get it right.

I agree .

I think the figure is just ok. I pre-ordered it but it seems like HT did what they wanted to do. It is odd that the Pred line is in a way accurate I am not going to bore any of my fellow SSC board members since this has been discussed before. I might leave a critic review on the HT/ALIEN blog once I recieve the fig in hand.

 

[CelticPredator]

I'm going to paint the Medicom Alien. I has no fear.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I'm going to paint the Medicom Alien. I has no fear.

You also have no sense of scale aswell as no fear

 

[prefused]

You also have no sense of scale aswell as no fear

neither does hot toys, evidently.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

neither does hot toys, evidently.

Well as long as their terminator lines are accurate im a happy bunny

 

[Bentargett777]

iv got this guy coming for xmas so its all good most people that will see it at mine wont know the difference anyway they will just be like cool alien figure they wont start picking things with it

 

[uscmhicks]

I wonder if a dx might come ?.
There seems to be alot of complaints. I just keep thinking though , why would they go to the trouble of making lines like " the spirit " accurate and never do alien accurate. Maybe theres a hidden reason.
I'll be still buying this after a few other figures , I think it looks great but like many have said in the thread it would have been great to have it more accurate.