Hot Toys - MMS 117 Terminator 2 Model T-800 spec + hi-res pics

[Voorhees27]

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[MaulFan]

Yeah, I just meant overall SSF board hype. The T800 is far more iconic and it's not as if we've been inundated with a bunch of different versions of this figure over the past few years.... This thing needed to be updated.

Indeed. I don't care what's wrong with this figure, there is a whole lot right, this is a dream figure for me as a T2 fan, just a really awesome looking representation of Arnie from the film, I'm really pumped. Sideshow doing the line was a great surprise as before that, all there was really was Kenner figures and McFarlane. Though they had room for improvement, they were a nice upgrade from figures of old, and now we get even better.

 

[EVILFACE]

A new comparison pic with Dutch:

More new pics here: https://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=24551&extra=page%3D1

Looks like he is the same height as the Predator now

 

[FLOSI]

Indeed. I don't care what's wrong with this figure, there is a whole lot right, this is a dream figure for me as a T2 fan, just a really awesome looking representation of Arnie from the film, I'm really pumped. Sideshow doing the line was a great surprise as before that, all there was really was Kenner figures and McFarlane. Though they had room for improvement, they were a nice upgrade from figures of old, and now we get even better.

After how well Salvation did I think it's safe to say that the Terminator franchise does well in this scale.... Can't wait to get this.

Looks like he is the same height as the Predator now

I really hope they didn't overdo it... Still, too tall is always better than too short.

 

[MaulFan]

After how well Salvation did I think it's safe to say that the Terminator franchise does well in this scale.... Can't wait to get this.

Yup, the T:S figures are some of the nicest quality I own, getting figures from T2 and T1 of that caliber would be amazing, we're halfway there.

 

[brewt1mer]

My opinion on any of the talking points this figure has raised:

Hair length: I used to think it was too short, kinda think it could be very minimally longer on the sides but Maulfan's picture with all the different screengrabs of Arnie's head demonstrated to me that in some scenes it did indeed look exactly like Hot Toys have made it - as though it was gelled down on the sides. The other company's figure depicts another accurate hair length from the film. So I'm happy to have both.

Proportions: With the clothes on yes he becomes bigger than he actually was in T2, overall though I think HT got the right balance. You don't want the underlying body to be too small either. All this needs is the jacket futzed and brought tighter, the collar brought in closer around the neck. I'm sure this will be possible. This in turn should get rid of the effect of his head seeming too small...which it does in some pics.

The face sculpt: I think its quite clear who it is, I don't buy the Willem Dafoe comparison but I think the face should be a bit longer between the eyes and the mouth. The details are right just not the measurement. The word 'scrunched' has been mentioned and I think in some shots with the sunglasses on, yeah things look a bit squashed when you compare it to a film still. This is a carry over from Dutch which Yulli might have used as referance. Obviously it doesn't compromise the likeness in any significant way though.

Legs too long?: Erm..I don't think so, I think if they were any shorter it could look wierd. Maybe they should be a bit beefier? If so that would be possible for us to do on our own.

Neck joint: I'd prefer if it were an all-in-one head/neck. I don't really see the benefits of the placement of the joint at the base of the skull where there is now a line visible. It detracts from the visual realism of the piece and for what? Is there a greater range of movement? Not that I've experienced or that i've found particularly useful even if there is. Does it look more natural when you turn the head? No. If anything it looks less so. So really it only counts where it concerns up/down movement. But I think side-to-side movement should have been the more important consideration and for me a normal ball-joint at the base of the neck (and thus an all-in-one head/neck) works best there. But anyway, I may have gone on a bit more about this than the other points but I don't think HT have committed some outrage here, I can deal with it, its fine.

i agree with your points as you have said they are very small errors....lets all face it this is the best 1/6th arnold ever produced make no mistake about it.....

 

[FLOSI]

Yup, the T:S figures are some of the nicest quality I own, getting figures from T2 and T1 of that caliber would be amazing, we're halfway there.

Assuming we get a battle damaged T2 T800 and two versions (Tech Noir and Police Station) of the T1 T800, I plan to display all four together...

Kyle Reese would be the only other MUST HAVE OR I'LL GO CRAZY of the two films aside from Arnie for me...

 

[karamazov80]

Regarding all the flaws, obviously, Hot Toys are testing things out with the figures from the inferior film first, in order to work out the kinks for the big T1 release party!

Similar to holding off on the critical Predator 1 until making sure they were able to produce a top-notch product.

 

[plasmid303]

Except that the Pred 1 kinda sucked.

So let's hope they fare better with T1, if holding off the best for last is their intention.

 

[MaulFan]

Regarding all the flaws, obviously, Hot Toys are testing things out with the figures from the inferior film first, in order to work out the kinks for the big T1 release party!

Similar to holding off on the critical Predator 1 until making sure they were able to produce a top-notch product.

In this case, I think starting with T2 is heavily influenced by the licensing, plus Yulli seems to favor it. T1 will require dealing with Arnold's personal likeness folks again like with Dutch, and also Biehn and Hamilton if they choose to pursue that. The T2 license covers likenesses so it takes less work on their part. I think starting with T2 was just a matter of going with the easiest first. I'm sure the usual save the original for last plan was part of it too, but I don't think T1 would ever have been first just because of the extra work involved.

 

[Kuzeh]

Holy cow!!
I'm so late to the party!
This thread exploded after the first prod. pics exploded...
IMO, another home-run by HT!!
Looks amazing!!!
I was debating about getting this figure,
but not anymore!!! !!

 

[FLOSI]

Holy cow!!
I'm so late to the party!
This thread exploded after the first prod. pics exploded...
IMO, another home-run by HT!!
Looks amazing!!!
I was debating about getting this figure,
but not anymore!!! !!

You must buy this.... Your soul depends on it.

 

[Devil_666]

Looks like he is the same height as the Predator now

I really hope they didn't overdo it... Still, too tall is always better than too short.

Honestly IMO.. Dutch is too short. ALL HT Predators are too short. And this T2 Arnie is the right size.

Oh and Too $hort is Too $hort.

 

[FLOSI]

Honestly IMO.. Dutch is too short. ALL HT Predators are too short. And this T2 Arnie is the right size.

Oh and Too $hort is Too $hort.

Well... nothing is better than Shorty the Pimp.

 

[a-dev]

i agree with your points as you have said they are very small errors....lets all face it this is the best 1/6th arnold ever produced make no mistake about it.....

Thanks, I probably sound like I'm complaining a lot and sometimes sure thats all I'm doing - such as the Big Chap Alien - that was just a major disappointment for me and I have little positive to say about that figure to balance out my criticism of it - but this one, despite minor issues, is a major WIN!

Love that new Dutch comparison pic, that hardman stance with the closed fists, the height, the face and the hair look great.

For me the question is black t-shirt or grey t-shirt - one of my 2 is going to be the Dyson's house scene so the other is going to either be biker bar Arnie right when he steps outside in his newly acquired leathers and 'Bad to the Bone' starts playing or it'll be Arnie from the desert scenes (possibly later to become a Cyberdyne version).

Except that the Pred 1 kinda sucked.

So let's hope they fare better with T1.

Controversial! I agree it has flaws but bad enough that it sucked?

 

[karamazov80]

Except that the Pred 1 kinda sucked.

Sorry, I forgot that some of us live in Delusionland.

 

[sky_captain]

Went ahead and ordered this bad boy. Yes I've already bought Wolverine and Blade this month, but this guy is from one of my favourite movies, I just had to.

Thankfully I'm single at the moment, lol

 

[Minimodel]

I'd like a DX T1 Arnie with Punk and Biker outfit and 3 alternate heads, (Punk, Battle Damaged Eye with LED and Battle Damaged Face also with LED) several sets of hands and AMT Longslide, AR-180, SPAS-12, Uzi, S&W 15 (nickel color) and a Phazed Plasma Rifle in the 40watt range.

This is EXACTLY how the Terminator figure should be presented.It will be fabulous.

 

[CyberVillain]

Thankfully I'm single at the moment, lol

If you display too many of them when you take someone home you probably stay single

 

[OMG]

Something wrong with this pic

T800 is about the same height as Dutch and a bit taller than T700