1/6 Hot Toys-MMS 236-TDK Armory (with Batman, Alfred, and Bruce Wayne Figures)

[Pixelpiper]

The small ones are actually bottle openers.

 

[Fan]

And the entire left rear door is full of classy Bat-hip flasks.

"I can drink at work, because I'M BATMAN!"


Need to get me one of those:

 

[J-Mart]

I really doubt HT will ever beat EB's efforts on those two, but that EB Joker's price just seems very prohibitive for me. So, if HT releases one, I hope it's either better, or makes the secondary price on the EB drop drastically.

Now, who wants to buy a Batpod, a tumbler and a DX 12?? Lol.


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I'll take some off of your hands lol.

 

[dw316]

I've only seen him fold it, never seen him throw it.

 

[Pennyworth]

Where does that stand? Don't really think so. Was discussed before and the logic conclusion was that if both are accurate on a similar level, both of course have to look pretty similar.

Still there are differences, like the front doors that are much more accurate on Hot Toys official release.
You can see that especially when the doors ar closed, that's not the TL armory in the proto pics:

Neither armory got the doors right as they shouldn't actually touch when closed:

One thing HT did improve on was the distance between the 6 storage compartments in the front. The Toys Legend armory has smaller compartments that are too far apart. However I do like how the TL version supports the suit without the pegs at the bottom...no doubt because it's hollow and lighter.

Thanks for those comparison pics. Besides all the detail differences, the HT just overall looks like a more solid and quality build.

I own the Toys Legend armory and can say that as far as being solid or well built, it's both. I have no doubt that the HT armory will be well made and more screen realistic, but I have no regrets picking up the TL product and I don't feel the need to trade up.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Neither armory got the doors right as they shouldn't actually touch when closed

That's a pretty significant oversight and immediately visible from any reference photo. You have to wonder about some of the design decisions. While compromises have to be made for tooling and production, wider doors don't strike me as one of those. The proportionally thicker frame and screen pitch yes, but not the overall door width.

 

[Rambler]

yup. Now that I see it, its a pretty glaring mistake.

 

[Fan]

Neither armory got the doors right as they shouldn't actually touch when closed (...)

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That's true, that's why I wrote "much more accurate" and not "completely accurate".

 

[Pennyworth]

That's true, that's why I wrote "much more accurate" and not "completely accurate".

I hear ya man

"Completely accurate" in this hobby is often strived for but rarely achieved.

 

[DarkMagic]

I own the Toys Legend armory and can say that as far as being solid or well built, it's both. I have no doubt that the HT armory will be well made and more screen realistic, but I have no regrets picking up the TL product and I don't feel the need to trade up.

Thanks for showing the door gap, yeah HT missed that detail. I wonder if it would be something that too difficult to mod when it arrives for those of us who want it closer to the real thing (not perfect). I'll probable display mine with the doors wide open most of the time so I'll notice it even less.

I think I'd be satisfied too with the TL version had I bought that before the HT was announce. What I meant by the HT looking better quality is the overall sharpness of the gadgets and the styrofoam padding in the doors when the two are compared side by side. Those batarangs, belt containers and canisters have a crisp, machined look. On the TL, the batarangs and gadgets have a more crude "home-made" look to them compared to the HT. The spaces for the weapons in the door padding are precision cut. Those five canisters are evenly spaced on the HT version, but not so much on the TL.

But I agree, if I already had the TL one, I probably wouldn't spring for the HT one also. I rarely sell my stuff, so I wouldn't try to trade in the TL to trade up to the HT either, I'd just be happy with what I have.

 

[hokietwo]

I built my own armory 2 years ago before these came out, its a little rough around the edges but it is make out really well in person. I made it from scratch out of real concrete moulds, copper piping and polystyrene. Weighs about 15 pounds. Wouldn't trade it for either, but probably more for the sentiment than for accuracy.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I built my own armory 2 years ago before these came out, its a little rough around the edges

Yeah, that looks terrible… Are you nuts? It looks phenomenal from here! Great job.

 

[hokietwo]

Yeah, that looks terrible… Are you nuts? It looks phenomenal from here! Great job.

Thank you sir. I would LOVE to do a 1/4 scale one with the Hot Toys figure. The armory itself wouldnt be that difficult, actually easier than 1/6th scale to build since the scale would be bigger. But to get all the bits and bobs for the weapons would require a crap ton of casting work. Maybe someday.

 

[Fan]

Always loved your custom armory!! Can understand you wouldn't trade it!

 

[hokietwo]

Always loved your custom armory!! Can understand you wouldn't trade it!

Thanks!

 

[spindrift]

Hey man, no offense. I know I got a good eye for details and you can rely on me when I say these are completely different things, has nothing to do with beeing "the authoritative on all things Nolan Batman" but it sounds great btw.

You are right all around...
I compared it to pics of the TL armory in December and their are many many differences.......same object but different interpretation...

 

[Minimodel]

I built my own armory 2 years ago before these came out, its a little rough around the edges but it is make out really well in person. I made it from scratch out of real concrete moulds, copper piping and polystyrene. Weighs about 15 pounds. Wouldn't trade it for either, but probably more for the sentiment than for accuracy.

Most of us here could only dream of doing something like that.You should be very proud of yourself.

 

[Rambler]

Wow, Hokie, that is damn impressive for being a custom armory. Looks just like the mass produced ones, except like you said, it holds a high sentimental value to you. I would never trade that either!

 

[juanca33]

My first flexpayment for this was charged even though Iused almost 100 in rewars I had to choose 4 payments for my plan

 

[batfan08]

I sit down and have my morning coffee. I log into the Sideshow message boards. I hit several sections. When I get to the DC section, I see numerous Bale Batman threads clustered at the top in succession. Usually, the armory, this thread, is at the top. I check thread, there's usually nothing new. I notice a discussion about "moar" Bale Batman figures despite the fact that this set hasn't even shipped yet, I comment on it. I commentate on what I've seen. I visit the boards for info, to participate, have lolz, review, criticize, have fun, and cry. When it came to this particular discussion, I felt like crying/complaining (if we even want to call it that) about these over eager beavers that can't wait to see more of the same character. That was my choosing. It's a message board, instead of joining in on the "I hope Hot Toys makes a thousandth Begins or TDK Batman", I chose to state that I'm sick of seeing it in this place.

Am I being reasonable?

Late to the party, but I actually kind of agree with DiFabio. We've been so beaten down with TDK stuff that, lately, I tend to find myself gravitating towards other interpretations. Mainly, the '66 TV Show, but, it's to a point now where I don't give a damn about scale, either; there are TAS figures coming out! Good ones, too! At the same time, though, I still dearly love those films. A lot of people say "TDKR tarnished that Trilogy for me." I am not one of those people. They're still just as great as I always remembered them to be.

At the same time, though, it's to the point now where I'm never happy. I see the Adam West figures: "OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING! NEVER, IN A MILLION YEARS, DID I THINK WE'D ACTUALLY SEE LICENSED '66 BATMAN STUFF!"

I see the Keaton stuff: "Even to this day, that is still a gorgeous figure."

Batman:TAS stuff: "I made a vow years ago to only buy 1/6th and larger scales; this line is making me break that vow. SERIOUSLY. ANIMATED BATMAN FIGURES!"

TDK stuff: "Alfred looks awesome, it's nice to see that they're using the new faceplates, but that cowl and Wayne head are still bringing it into 'meh' territory for me."

My first reaction was "wow, that's awesome," but that enthusiasm never sticks with TDK stuff, anymore. Partly because I think my expectations are so high from the market, itself. It's like, on one hand, I feel like HT actively contributes with their lack of variety. I feel like, and I never thought I'd say this, Iron Man's rehashing actually feels more justified than Batman's, because, at least, in that case, they're doing something different. With Bale Batman, it's just kind of sad, now. It's like a little kid who misspelled a bunch of words on his spelling test, the first time around, keeps erasing his answers, walking up to the teacher, and saying "is this better," only to, occasionally, wind up erasing and misspelling a word he got right the first time around, his fourth time around. The difference is that Howard Chan is the kid who doesn't know how to spell, and the teacher is actively saying "HERE ARE THE ANSWERS! WRITE THEM DOWN!" At some point you've just got to call a spade a spade and say "I'd be better off saving for five years and commissioning Adam Gu. It might be more expensive, but, ****, I bet he's get it right the first time around."

That's part of what made the QS Batman so impressive to me. Was it another TDK Batman? Yeah. Was it a different scale, though? Yeah. Was it inaccurate? Not really. As someone who campaigned hard for HT to fix that figure, perhaps, I'm wholly overestimating my, or any other critics', involvement with how that figure turned out, but, when I look at that figure, I actually feel proud. Even if Howard wasn't listening and he was doing it at his own behest, I think "this is what happens when you put effort into making your work the best it can be." Are there still minor inaccuracies here and there? Yeah, but when you see the night and day differences between the prototype and the final product, those inaccuracies are so negligible that they really don't matter, and, on top of that, I feel that the improvements actually overshadow any inaccuracies.

It's like I care because they care, and that's part of what makes so conflicted about this release. One one hand, I think Alfred is awesome, and it's great that they're using the new faceplates in a different scale, but, on the flip side, I think "the same DX 12 sculpt, the same google eyed, weirdly shaped cowl; this is a total rehash." Which brings me to another point, I see no problem with reusing aspects of previous releases, so long as they're used to improve the product. Those faceplates, for example, are, for all intents and purposes, rehashes. They're scaled down, but they're still from a previous release. However, since they're new to this release, it's impressive. When I see the same, inaccurate stuff there, though, it feels like a cash grab.

It's like a scaled down QS cowl and Wayne sculpt would've elevated my anticipation for this release to 11. In some ways, I think "well, maybe HT is using the same cowl so as not to burn DX 12 owners, but then I think "if you're going to buy new faceplates because they're more accurate, I fail to see why having to buy an improved cowl would be such a huge inconvenience." I'm hopeful that they fix the issues with this release, though, because I feel like this has the potential to be the "end all, be all" release like the QS was, for its respective scale. You've literally got an armory; by definition, that's pretty much every single accessory you'd ever need. On top of that, you have a full blown Batman figure in there, along with Bruce Wayne and Alfred. It's like "just give people the damn QS sculpt and cowl and be done with it."