1/6 Hot Toys-MMS 241-Captain America:TWS-Winter Soldier 1/6th Scale Collectible Figure
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jacerc130
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WIP of my hair rooting. Still need to cut it a bit and style it. Glad I finally decided to do this.
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looking pretty good. Just need to chrome that arm up!
jacerc130
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Here is mine with rooted hair:
and a few different angles of the chrome arm:
and a few different angles of the chrome arm:
Darth Zullo
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So I did it.. Here's Buckys 'TWS' outfit with 'Civil War' body, head sculpt, & hands...
I feel like I just got this figure again for the first time lol Really digging it.
SilverStar17
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Nice. 
rogers985
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Love that pose!
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What kinda base is that?
rogers985
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Love that pose!
Thanks [emoji106]It's from the mk 6 iron man [emoji23][emoji23]
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Better late than never re the original WS - figure the Freaks board is a place to share and all - including the foul-ups and *struggles*. So, re Bucky's sniper rifle (that wasn't even used in the film - or maybe he shot Fury with it...) anyway, from the film menu, a rifle described as a 107....
Except, yah know, hunting online through the 'bay and other 1/6 scale places, run headlong into the confusion between the M82A1 and the M107 - even gun folks are confused...the problem is what *&^%$! do you buy
- especially when the manufacturers may or may not have accurate labels and descriptions anyway. Even the current Barrett catalog has:
Tryin' to keep this short(ish) so, basically, far as I can tell, at some point the U.S. Army took the M82 and made it more field-ready, e.g. for me the big thing is the rear grip is different (re the real thing, the 107 rear grip is aluminum vs. plastic?). More details:
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Barrett_M82
But there are variants of this rifle all over. Thing is, it was built to be modular anyway - detachable sights, and all that. Very popular.
Just wanted the rifle in 1/6, re display. So, my experience, all via E-bay and Chinese sellers (BTW, as far as shipping/purchase goes, my experiences have been great):
Left to right - Crossfire (metal), Z-toys (plastic), Minitoys (metal) brand. (Sorry, had the sight on the Minitoys on the wrong way.)
My opinion - Crossfire was a mistake. Sold as 1/6 scale - way too big and heavy. Decently made metal but not a lot of real detail. IMO, it's a desk ornament, really. I don't know what this was supposed to be - a metal model, I guess. You can play with it.
Z-toys - accurate appearance, but way too fragile cheap. Grew to hate this thing, feel like I glued every part of it at some point.
Which is why I tried for a metal rifle, one last time...
Minitoys - my favorite so far, even if it's the wrong rifle
. All of these have problems - this one, some - but fixable - stuff. Like, the magazine doesn't fit tightly and falls out
. The holes for the legs are too big - stuff I can fix, tho.
But, besides being metal, it has some real nice details - trigger fires, metal rings, stuff actually functions. It's missing the front fold-down iron sight, but re the few pics Bucky wasn't using one anyway. (Re reading, the fold-down sights are used if your fancy optical sight breaks). This 1/6 dated as 2012 - maybe before things were made really junky a lot of the time
. Even has Barrett co. stamping:
ALL of these had problems - inaccurate milling, or whatever. But - maybe it was different when WS came out - far as I can tell, a solid 1/6 scale model of this rifle isn't that easy to find. The real Barret rifle itself has different barrel lengths you can buy (20"/29"), and so do the scale models. Because getting a fig to hold something like this isn't that easy, I don't trust plastic at this point not to snap (unless it was an HT accessory made to go w. that figure).
All of these come w. bullets, phones, binoculars. None of them actually fire, but you can snap the rifle bolt if you want
. And they all come w. a detachable handle.
For me it wasn't supposed to turn into some huge and not-cheap quest
, just 'coz I wanted to display WS like the WS movie poster (there's still a rooted hair job for me looming) but I'm pretty happy, finally, w. the apparent M107 I ended up with - probably will mod the rear grip, but knew that when I bought it. Real or toy, there's not a huge difference between the rifles (unless you are gun expert I guess).
Overall - for looks only, 'coz I only got my fig to hold the rifle the way the actor does by snapping a leg and re-setting w. JB-Weld at an angle - (which was OK coz you look at this thing wrong and it breaks) - there's the Z-toys model. Have super glue on hand. Advantage tho is it is real light weight, and easily paintable.
Or try to find a sturdier metal version. Which costs a bit more. Have mini-tools on hand, especially screwdrivers/mini pliers. Also glue.
And it's kind of a gamble re what you might end up with, tho not sure that's deliberate. Because the history and variants of the M82/107 are pretty confusing - maybe the WS art book has more specifics. Hope this is useful re wading through e-bay, for those interested. I'd say tho, if you can grab the right 1/6 Barrett, get it, because not that easy to find. I only see it on the 'bay and Ali Express.
- figure the Freaks board is a place to share and all - including the foul-ups and *struggles*. So, re Bucky's sniper rifle (that wasn't even used in the film - or maybe he shot Fury with it...) anyway, from the film menu, a rifle described as a 107....
Except, yah know, hunting online through the 'bay and other 1/6 scale places, run headlong into the confusion between the M82A1 and the M107 - even gun folks are confused...the problem is what *&^%$! do you buy
- especially when the manufacturers may or may not have accurate labels and descriptions anyway. Even the current Barrett catalog has:
Tryin' to keep this short(ish) so, basically, far as I can tell, at some point the U.S. Army took the M82 and made it more field-ready, e.g. for me the big thing is the rear grip is different (re the real thing, the 107 rear grip is aluminum vs. plastic?). More details:
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Barrett_M82
But there are variants of this rifle all over. Thing is, it was built to be modular anyway - detachable sights, and all that. Very popular.
Just wanted the rifle in 1/6, re display. So, my experience, all via E-bay and Chinese sellers (BTW, as far as shipping/purchase goes, my experiences have been great
):
Left to right - Crossfire (metal), Z-toys (plastic), Minitoys (metal) brand. (Sorry, had the sight on the Minitoys on the wrong way.)
My opinion - Crossfire was a mistake. Sold as 1/6 scale
- way too big and heavy. Decently made metal but not a lot of real detail. IMO, it's a desk ornament, really. I don't know what this was supposed to be - a metal model, I guess. You can play with it.Z-toys - accurate appearance, but way too fragile cheap. Grew to hate this thing
, feel like I glued every part of it at some point.Which is why I tried for a metal rifle, one last time...
Minitoys - my favorite so far, even if it's the wrong rifle
. All of these have problems - this one, some - but fixable - stuff. Like, the magazine doesn't fit tightly and falls out. The holes for the legs are too big - stuff I can fix, tho.But, besides being metal, it has some real nice details - trigger fires, metal rings, stuff actually functions. It's missing the front fold-down iron sight, but re the few pics Bucky wasn't using one anyway. (Re reading, the fold-down sights are used if your fancy optical sight breaks). This 1/6 dated as 2012 - maybe before things were made really junky a lot of the time
. Even has Barrett co. stamping:
ALL of these had problems
- inaccurate milling, or whatever. But - maybe it was different when WS came out - far as I can tell, a solid 1/6 scale model of this rifle isn't that easy to find. The real Barret rifle itself has different barrel lengths you can buy (20"/29"), and so do the scale models. Because getting a fig to hold something like this isn't that easy, I don't trust plastic at this point not to snap (unless it was an HT accessory made to go w. that figure).All of these come w. bullets, phones, binoculars. None of them actually fire, but you can snap the rifle bolt if you want
. And they all come w. a detachable handle.For me it wasn't supposed to turn into some huge and not-cheap quest
, just 'coz I wanted to display WS like the WS movie poster (there's still a rooted hair job for me looming) but I'm pretty happy, finally, w. the apparent M107 I ended up with - probably will mod the rear grip, but knew that when I bought it. Real or toy, there's not a huge difference between the rifles (unless you are gun expert I guess).Overall - for looks only, 'coz I only got my fig to hold the rifle the way the actor does by snapping a leg and re-setting w. JB-Weld at an angle - (which was OK coz you look at this thing wrong and it breaks) - there's the Z-toys model. Have super glue on hand. Advantage tho is it is real light weight, and easily paintable.
Or try to find a sturdier metal version. Which costs a bit more. Have mini-tools on hand, especially screwdrivers/mini pliers. Also glue.
And it's kind of a gamble re what you might end up with
, tho not sure that's deliberate. Because the history and variants of the M82/107 are pretty confusing - maybe the WS art book has more specifics. Hope this is useful re wading through e-bay, for those interested. I'd say tho, if you can grab the right 1/6 Barrett, get it, because not that easy to find. I only see it on the 'bay and Ali Express.Mr Crimson
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Hi there. I'm needing some help from you experts. I'm wanting to get myself a Hot Toys Winter Soldier but I'm unsure which one to go for. Does anyone out there own both? Can you give me your opinion on the two figures? My heart pulls me towards the first one from Captain America 2.... He just looks cooler but I'd love to get some expert thoughts\opinions on the accessories they come with, the likeness & so forth so I can make an educated decision. Thanks!
enzolt
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If you're willing to pay $400+ for a Hot Toys Winter Soldier from Cap 2, then go for it.
Otherwise, the better robot arm detailing on the new one should suffice and can still be had for retail.
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Otherwise, the better robot arm detailing on the new one should suffice and can still be had for retail.
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I've has both, the Civil War is an overall better version based on likeness, clothes quality and arm paint...
The only part where Cap2 version is better is the accesories... but the new Bucky is the better figure
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The only part where Cap2 version is better is the accesories... but the new Bucky is the better figure
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SilverStar17
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My humble opinion on strictly the pros of each:
TWS Version
- two sculpt options, both good likenesses (though the unmasked one with face paint is inaccurate to the film)
- more accessories
CW Version
- better outfit
- better metal arm
- cheaper price
As far as the likeness for each sculpt goes, I would personally say I don't think one really outweighs the other. Maybe TWS one has a SLIGHT edge in likeness, but what brings it back is the unmasked sculpt has the face paint on it, which is inaccurate to the film. However, it does come with two sculpt options (one masked and one unmasked) so for this reason, I give it the edge as far as the sculpts for each version go.
The metal arm on the CW version is much more shiny and chrome looking than TWS version. I also prefer the outfit on the CW version than TWS version.
TWS version comes with a ton of accessories for various display options, while the CW version just comes with the lone firearm accessory.
If both were retail, I'd say go for TWS version. But given its higher price, I'd go for the CW version at retail.
It really depends on which character you're going for in my opinion. About a year ago I was asking myself the same thing. I wanted a Winter Soldier figure but found it hard to choose between TWS and CW versions. When I found out that TWS versions price had already increased quite a lot and I wasn't willing to pay that much, I thought I'd settle for the CW version coz it was cheaper and at that time also a preorder so it gave me time to save up (was my first HT). Both are the same character so it shouldn't matter too much which I got, right? Well, that was my initial thought but I soon came to realise that if I got one of these and spend so much money, I'd get the one I like best and that was TWS. Why? Well because:
- TWS is my fave MCU movie
- TWS outfit is so much cooler (gods, I hate that CW jacket)
- 2 head sculpts
- 1 comes with the muzzle and the googles *_*
- all the weapons he comes with ... I mean, there are TONS and you can stash all most all of them somewhere at his body
Honestly, I never really looked at the CW version twice. I liked it but it just feels different. Luckily I found TWS for retail not too much later and immediately pulled the trigger. I never regretted my decision and even bought some spare hands and a spare vest in case something happened to it over time. If I could only get one (which by that time I thought) I'd go for TWS one any day of the week. If you only wanna get 1, you gotta decide for yourself which version of the character you like best and which you want to have on your shelves. To me they're drastically different so I wouldn't let "the arm is nicer" or "the likeness is much better" be the basis for my decision. To me CW Bucky is what you get when you mix WS with Bucky. He's not Hydra's and he's not the character that fought Steve on that highway and flipped those knives etc. He's more human which is good but one of the reasons why I would never think of putting the CW head on TWS body. It just feels wrong to me. Like a step back for the character, a step back from being his own person to being Hydra's and not having choices. I also gotta say that TWS Bucky feels a lot more dangerous to me than CW Bucky and when I look at my display I wanna go "ohooo~ somone's gonna get wrecked now!" *_*
Sooo, long story short, if you can get both, just don't decide and get both coz they're two great figures and while the CW version barely comes with anything, it's still a great figure with a much nicer metallic finish on the arm (although that never bothered me) and a great head sculpt. Otherwise ... *_*
BagginsOfBagEnd
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Personally I'd say go for the Winter Soldier version if you can - more accessories and 2 head sculpts. The masked sculpt looks particularly awesome when displayed! 
enzolt
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Anyone want to sell me their TWS version for $230?
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