Hot Toys - MMS 95 - Terminator Salvation - John Connor- spec + hi-res pics
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Thnaks Man, i guess i'll just leave it hooked up for now cause thats the way i Prefer it.
I don't know why i care so much i usually don't give a ^^^^ about Screen accuracy but i was just curious because i see some people with it hooked up and some that are loose......
Ah who cares.....hooked up it is
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Thnaks Man, i guess i'll just leave it hooked up for now cause thats the way i Prefer it.
I don't know why i care so much i usually don't give a ^^^^ about Screen accuracy but i was just curious because i see some people with it hooked up and some that are loose......
Ah who cares.....hooked up it is
Looks great both ways, I am really enjoying this figure..especially from a movie i never really gave a crap about, its the character design that makes this figure so cool, the rugged look of it...I think V2 is going to be kick ass as well but, i am not droping that kind of money on that figure for some stupid Hydrabot that i would never display with the figure.
I totally agree with Everything you just said!!!! Except i liked TS
i'm sure the V2 connor will look Great as well but I don't like bases unless it's a statue and i don't care for the Hydrabot either so not droppin money on it .
I read you went to Toys2 whats the store like, i always mean to go and then never do, does he have a lot of stuff or is it like one of each thing where you have to order what you want??
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I totally agree with Everything you just said!!!! Except i liked TS
i'm sure the V2 connor will look Great as well but I don't like bases unless it's a statue and i don't care for the Hydrabot either so not droppin money on it .
I read you went to Toys2 whats the store like, i always mean to go and then never do, does he have a lot of stuff or is it like one of each thing where you have to order what you want??
Toys2 is a small store but, its loaded with stuff..Transformers,Gundam,Bandai,Revoltech, various anime statues/figures etc.., he carries mostly imported stuff and some MR stuff as well and then there is a good amount of 1/6th in the store but, not everything they have for sale can be found on the floor, usually the most current releases are at the store and maybe some of the older figures would be in the warehouse but, does not take long to get what you want from them, i think they have quite a few 1/6th figures in the back of the store too but, i have never had a look back there.I am really glad that the only good 1/6th retailer in my area happend to be great people to deal with, never had a problem at all with them ever..been going there for years now and always get that butterfly feeling in my stomach when i drive up there to drop crazy money on this stuff.
For instance, when i went to get John Connor..he had one left and i wanted to see another to compare them but, Eric said there was no more in the store but, might be 2 more in the warehouse..so, he closes the store and goes to check the warehouse(took 10mins) and comes back but, turns out they were T-600's..it was not even a big deal to me but, just goes to show what the guy will do to make customers happy.
Deckard
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For anyone interested in total accuracy, I just watched it again.
The pistol clip pouch on his front right chest, should be in the same place but on the other(left) side. Then the 2 rifle magazine pouches below it, with the bottom of the bottom one at the same length as his jacket.
The pistol clip pouch on his front right chest, should be in the same place but on the other(left) side. Then the 2 rifle magazine pouches below it, with the bottom of the bottom one at the same length as his jacket.
laudanum09
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So MaulFan, I'm interested in hearing what you think about the figure! looks great and brings out all of the details in your pictures. Compared to other great human HSs what do you think about Connor in comparison?
The overall figure is great.
Highlights:
Outfit is very well weathered. The pants are acutally really dull camo and look like clean camo that's been around the block, unlike Dutch, shame his didn't look like this. I'm really impressed with the wearing of color on the coat, I didn't think that'd come through in production being a pleather instead of cloth, but it's there and looks great, the furry lining came out really nice, doesn't look out of scale. All in all, I'd say weathering is a huge highlight on this thing, it's all weathered, the clothes, his weapons, the wearing on the C4 packs looks fantastic, the dirtying of his face is unbelievable.
Which leads to the last highlight, the skin paint apps. This is the best mass production pain job on human skin I've seen on a figure yet. Great mix of red hues worked into the base flesh color to give it some life, and the fine blotting of dity to make him look like he's been out in the battlefield.
Lowlights:
I'll start with paint continuing from the highlights. Like I said, the skin is fantastic, and even the application of the hair tones is great, however, the color choices I think are a bit poor. I think the hair on the top of his head is about right for Bale with a full head of hair, but I think a more muted and lighter shade, not too much, but a bit, would have helped sell the shortness of his hair, that his skin showing through lightens it, where the factory paint is such a dark hue that it looks pretty solid. I think had the beard been a lighter shade too, it would have helped. Bale had the facial hair, but it was almost questionable at times because of the thinness of it and lightness of the hairs' color. At times on the figure, it's so strong, it throws the resemblance a bit because it looks more bold than we saw on screen.
Another low that for those getting v1 and v2 is moot but for those just getting v1 is an issue I feel, would be the hands and gun. The way this rifle is rigged and the sculpts of the hands that come with the figure, mixed with his pleather jacket, make for a bit of a challenge finding realistic looking rifle holding poses. Now, with the proper gun, I think you could reenact poses from publicity stills of him in this costume, but the mix of hands, gun setup and costume make for a challenge. Though v2 will probably be the same 2 hands, his cloth costume should be more flexible and allow you to hold this rifle properly.
Now, those are lows that if I were to take an objective view of the figure, I'd find them, but personally, they aren't impacting my enjoyment of this figure.
The last low, however, does impact enjoyment, which would be the "cheap" construction methods on the harness rigs. Firstly, I'm not sure why HT couldn't have shipped him preassembled and just have us put the clips into their pouches, but even the pouches arleady on him use the same methods. The pull the strap through the loop holding style for the pouches and the weak "magic tape" used for closing the pouches is a bit of a let down. You can get figures for $50 less or more than this figure that use better methods for this stuff, and even past HT figures have used better. This obsession with velcro, that I've noticed starting last summer with v1 Joker, is really hurting HT's figures and at $140 plus, I consider that a bit unnacceptable. Employ magnets, snaps, whatever it takes, and firmly stitch pouches onto harness so they'll always stay in place. Figures at this price shouldn't come dishevelled or "fall apart" so easily without even touching them, HT's better than that and they need to return to it.
I realize as far as words, you'd think I'm more negative on this thing than positive, but the good parts are just so stunning, there's really not much you can say with words about it, and I think photos speak enough for that, the lows require a bit more explanation. If i say the paint's great and put up a photo, you can go yeah no ^^^^
, if I say this part sucks, it begs questions as to why, so I elaborate.
Highlights:
Outfit is very well weathered. The pants are acutally really dull camo and look like clean camo that's been around the block, unlike Dutch, shame his didn't look like this. I'm really impressed with the wearing of color on the coat, I didn't think that'd come through in production being a pleather instead of cloth, but it's there and looks great, the furry lining came out really nice, doesn't look out of scale. All in all, I'd say weathering is a huge highlight on this thing, it's all weathered, the clothes, his weapons, the wearing on the C4 packs looks fantastic, the dirtying of his face is unbelievable.
Which leads to the last highlight, the skin paint apps. This is the best mass production pain job on human skin I've seen on a figure yet. Great mix of red hues worked into the base flesh color to give it some life, and the fine blotting of dity to make him look like he's been out in the battlefield.
Lowlights:
I'll start with paint continuing from the highlights. Like I said, the skin is fantastic, and even the application of the hair tones is great, however, the color choices I think are a bit poor. I think the hair on the top of his head is about right for Bale with a full head of hair, but I think a more muted and lighter shade, not too much, but a bit, would have helped sell the shortness of his hair, that his skin showing through lightens it, where the factory paint is such a dark hue that it looks pretty solid. I think had the beard been a lighter shade too, it would have helped. Bale had the facial hair, but it was almost questionable at times because of the thinness of it and lightness of the hairs' color. At times on the figure, it's so strong, it throws the resemblance a bit because it looks more bold than we saw on screen.
Another low that for those getting v1 and v2 is moot but for those just getting v1 is an issue I feel, would be the hands and gun. The way this rifle is rigged and the sculpts of the hands that come with the figure, mixed with his pleather jacket, make for a bit of a challenge finding realistic looking rifle holding poses. Now, with the proper gun, I think you could reenact poses from publicity stills of him in this costume, but the mix of hands, gun setup and costume make for a challenge. Though v2 will probably be the same 2 hands, his cloth costume should be more flexible and allow you to hold this rifle properly.
Now, those are lows that if I were to take an objective view of the figure, I'd find them, but personally, they aren't impacting my enjoyment of this figure.
The last low, however, does impact enjoyment, which would be the "cheap" construction methods on the harness rigs. Firstly, I'm not sure why HT couldn't have shipped him preassembled and just have us put the clips into their pouches, but even the pouches arleady on him use the same methods. The pull the strap through the loop holding style for the pouches and the weak "magic tape" used for closing the pouches is a bit of a let down. You can get figures for $50 less or more than this figure that use better methods for this stuff, and even past HT figures have used better. This obsession with velcro, that I've noticed starting last summer with v1 Joker, is really hurting HT's figures and at $140 plus, I consider that a bit unnacceptable. Employ magnets, snaps, whatever it takes, and firmly stitch pouches onto harness so they'll always stay in place. Figures at this price shouldn't come dishevelled or "fall apart" so easily without even touching them, HT's better than that and they need to return to it.
I realize as far as words, you'd think I'm more negative on this thing than positive, but the good parts are just so stunning, there's really not much you can say with words about it, and I think photos speak enough for that, the lows require a bit more explanation. If i say the paint's great and put up a photo, you can go yeah no ^^^^
, if I say this part sucks, it begs questions as to why, so I elaborate.
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Thanks for the link, Padrinno...it was cool to see what I'm getting next week and to see a "hands-on" look at the accessories...or should I say "tweezers-on"...
I'm really stoked for this figure now...
hope you like it
Great shots, sir...nice and sharp, and I really like the "one-knee" pose...
Man...is it Monday yet?
And Sean...as always, I appreciate your comments, your shots look great and help the wait....
My feeling is...seeing all of these pictures and not having other HT figures to gauge this off of, I'm gonna be fine with him. Just looking at the various shots folks have posted, I see a really great figure with some intricate costume detailing that, like many figures. will require some good ole' futzing to acheive the best display looks. It's good to have a heads-up that some of the gear is pretty delicate and will require that little extra care....I'm looking forward to getting this guy equipped and really for display (and a few shots of course
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Good read Sean, I think you definitely gave us an objective mini-review of John Connor. One thing though your new avatar makes John Connor look like Tony Almeida from 24 from this past season.
Yeah, well, it's a great sculpt for sure, and of the sculpts I've actually had in my hand, it's the 2nd best Bale I've seen, but still falls short.
It's too bad, the 2 things holding this back from being an amazing Bale head happen to be the 2 things that really distinguish Bale, his nose and lips, which are still what really makes Andy B's Wayne head a shining effort in my eyes.
Bale has a thing and rough bridge to his nose. Hot Toys' Wayne and Connor heads suffer from the sides of it being too wide and creating an overall thicker feel and also the shapes are fairly soft.
Notice here how about mid nose it almost looks crushed in, that's something I always notice when I see Bale in a film.
This one highlights some of the ridges that take away the softness to his nose.
Small detail, but also defining, he has a mole on the right side of the bridge, just about near his eye, that isn't on the Connor head.
You can really see here what I mean about the soft shape to his nose.
And here how it's got a healthy build and doesn't have that caved in look.
The other feature is his lip shape, Bale's lips have the like duckbill quality to them often, and the Connor head looks fairly normal.
Again, for me, these are just observations, some people say stuff like this and it's daming the product and expressing and unwillingness to accept it, I accept it and I'm fine with it, but knowing that it's not like he's got a fact that no one can capture and feeling Andy really got it, I do look for others to capture it equally as well, I think you just need to pay attention to the subtle details more, not sure how these things get overlooked, but they seem to be and yet define his face so much, though Bale supposedly approved this sculpt himself, so maybe he wanted his face idealized or didn't look much and just made sure the head didn't badly present him, even if not dead right.
It's too bad, the 2 things holding this back from being an amazing Bale head happen to be the 2 things that really distinguish Bale, his nose and lips, which are still what really makes Andy B's Wayne head a shining effort in my eyes.
Bale has a thing and rough bridge to his nose. Hot Toys' Wayne and Connor heads suffer from the sides of it being too wide and creating an overall thicker feel and also the shapes are fairly soft.
Notice here how about mid nose it almost looks crushed in, that's something I always notice when I see Bale in a film.
This one highlights some of the ridges that take away the softness to his nose.
Small detail, but also defining, he has a mole on the right side of the bridge, just about near his eye, that isn't on the Connor head.
You can really see here what I mean about the soft shape to his nose.
And here how it's got a healthy build and doesn't have that caved in look.
The other feature is his lip shape, Bale's lips have the like duckbill quality to them often, and the Connor head looks fairly normal.
Again, for me, these are just observations, some people say stuff like this and it's daming the product and expressing and unwillingness to accept it, I accept it and I'm fine with it, but knowing that it's not like he's got a fact that no one can capture and feeling Andy really got it, I do look for others to capture it equally as well, I think you just need to pay attention to the subtle details more, not sure how these things get overlooked, but they seem to be and yet define his face so much, though Bale supposedly approved this sculpt himself, so maybe he wanted his face idealized or didn't look much and just made sure the head didn't badly present him, even if not dead right.
cerealkeller
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Mine's coming Tuesday! For a movie I didn't really care for, I'm sure excited to get this figure. I guess it's because i like Christian Bale as John Connor, I liked his performance and how he looked. HT nailed the details down and this honestly feels like a "cheap" HT figure as far as what you pay versus what you get. May be tempted to get Marcus also, as he seems like such a deluxe figure for $130-140.
sky_captain
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You said it, son.Yeah, cause the movie was terrible.
It could have been called anything else and it still would have been crap. Some really , really nice action scenes granted, but that ending. My word.
That out of the way, I ordered one of these bad boys. I will probably pick up the correct rifle down the road on ebay, but not too fussed. Definitely not buying the V2.
Peace.
I like the look of the Andy B Bale headsculpt alright but I don't think I've ever seen one painted in a way that fully does it justice.
You said it, son.
It could have been called anything else and it still would have been crap. Some really , really nice action scenes granted, but that ending. My word.
That out of the way, I ordered one of these bad boys. I will probably pick up the correct rifle down the road on ebay, but not too fussed. Definitely not buying the V2.
Peace.
Who are you?
EDIT: hop on the bandwagon!
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Thrustmaster
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I like Andys sculpt, but with all respect, I don't see that much Baleness on it. Sure he got some details on the nose and a bit on the lips, but still I'm not sure that everybody would see Bale immediatly. The HT JC Bale is really hard to capture it in pics. It always looks round and a bit fat in the pics, but in hand the face is really long and not thick, more a bit thin. The nose is off, it hasn't got the form of Bale in a perfect capture, but still it's the best Bale head out there. Fenix head is a bit too thin and is looking a bit weird from the side. It would be cool to have a mix of HT and Fenix head, that would rock.
Can't wait to see in the near future the head from Z. Hope this will be then the perfect one.
Today I just changed my white-nose JC for a new box at store. I opened and check that paint app is good. Said thank you and went to cinema for District9. I had time before movie start so I opened the box to look again. WTF the rifle scope is missing. 
I was so ^^^ing pissed After movie I had to went back to store again and change the rifle. It's ^^^^ing waste of time.
Next time I'll look at every single inch before I leave store.
I was so ^^^ing pissed After movie I had to went back to store again and change the rifle. It's ^^^^ing waste of time.Next time I'll look at every single inch before I leave store.
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A few of my John and the T-600
I'll be posting more later in my collection thread.
I'll be posting more later in my collection thread.
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