Hot Toys - MMS DX 01- The Dark Knight - The Joker spec and pics

[aussieinnyc]

It seems this pic has been overlooked - the best example I've seen here yet to show 4 tails.

 

[Devil_666]

let me just put my word in on this whole tail discussion - in the promo pic of him with his back turned, holding the knife (not with the fire, the other one), there is a seam running down the middle of his back, which turns into a slit. Now, there is another slit to the side of that, and logically another on the other side. Doesnt this equal four tails? If he had three there wouldnt be a slit in the center, right???

Wrong. This is a traditional double breasted suit coat with a back vent.

You'll notice in the back, there's 2 slits (1 on each side) aka the "back vent" AND there's also a seam running down the middle with NO SLIT. It's normal. Just because there's a seam running down the middle that doesn't mean there has to be a slit there. It's just how it's made.

 

[intothevoid]

Yes, but there is clear photographic evidence that the suit has 4 tails. I mean you can clearly see the split in the center in the pic posted by casper.

 

[Hecubus]

yeah - I'm not sure what you're trying to show me Devil, but the coat in your pic doesnt have a split in the center... I dont see how a coat can be split in the center but only have three tails...

 

[agonistes86]

Alright, this is the scene I'm talking about:

Note that this is just a crappy screenshot I took from youtube, but it should still be clear that there is a slit in the coat (that's obviously shorter than the other two slits mostly seen). If you want to check it on the DVD, as I said it's 2:08:06...

 

[Devil_666]

yeah - I'm not sure what you're trying to show me Devil, but the coat in your pic doesnt have a split in the center... I dont see how a coat can be split in the center but only have three tails...

The coat I posted would be an example of a coat with 3 coat tails. Actually it's just called a back vent, but for this discussion let's keep calling all the splits in fabric "tails". lol.

There's a seam running right down the middle of the jacket.. yet there's no split at the bottom.

there is a seam running down the middle of his back, which turns into a slit.

My point was just because there's a seam running down the back that doesn't automatically mean there's also a slit there.

 

[vodoun]

I wonder how much of that paper money is real. As in imagine the time making all that to then supposedly burn it if it wasn't somewhat CGI... money and fire.

 

[Mollins]

The coat I posted would be an example of a coat with 3 coat tails. Actually it's just called a back vent, but for this discussion let's keep calling all the splits in fabric "tails". lol.

There's a seam running right down the middle of the jacket.. yet there's no split at the bottom.



My point was just because there's a seam running down the back that doesn't automatically mean there's also a slit there.

Yes, but if you look at the picture at the top of the page you can SEE there is a vent in the middle

I wonder how much of that paper money is real. As in imagine the time making all that to then supposedly burn it if it wasn't somewhat CGI... money and fire.

I think it's probably bills that are to be destroyed, y'know, like the ones they take out of circulation.

Films always do stuff like taking ages to make something then destroy, watch the special features on the LotR DVDs and see

 

[intothevoid]

Yes, but if you look at the picture at the top of the page you can SEE there is a vent in the middle

Exactly. Devil - get your point that just because there's a seam doesn't mean there will be a slit, but there IS one in the joker coat. So as far as i'm concerned, there is nothing to argue about save for the fact that HT still have it wrong and they should correct it!

 

[Hecubus]

My point was just because there's a seam running down the back that doesn't automatically mean there's also a slit there.

I get what you mean - it just looks apparent to me in the pic I was talking about that it DOES split - but I guess it doesnt appear that way to everyone...

 

[Devil_666]

Alright, this is the scene I'm talking about:

Note that this is just a crappy screenshot I took from youtube, but it should still be clear that there is a slit in the coat (that's obviously shorter than the other two slits mostly seen). If you want to check it on the DVD, as I said it's 2:08:06...

No. I just checked it out (it's actually around 2:16 on my DVD) and what you're seeing is the split of the inner coat agonistes86. Not the overcoat.

Yes, but if you look at the picture at the top of the page you can SEE there is a vent in the middle

If you see it cool.. I don't.

I think it's probably bills that are to be destroyed, y'know, like the ones they take out of circulation.

It's all fake money. All U.S. Currency printed on paper has a picture of someone noteworthy in the United States. Either Former Presidents or like the $100 bill with Benjamin Franklin and the $10 with Alexander Hamilton. You can see that every single bill in that pic with Joker has no face pictures.

 

[MaulFan]

Ok, I was for a little discussion regarding this matter, but this conversation has turned into a cluster^^^^, and it's not going anywhere. Those who see 4 tails are seeing it and sticking by it, those that don't are sticking by that, no one's mind's changing or anything, there's just no point in having a pissing contest about it anymore. When it started, it seemed like those not seeing 4 may have just needed some alternate photos, clearly no photo is proof positive enough so not it's just a big back and forth, 3, no 4, no 3.

Cheer up, in about 2 months, we'll be enjoying this figure in our hands, provided you ordered somewhere getting it from HT and not DCD.

 

[villainsfan42]

"What do you mean, you people?"

"...What do YOU mean, "you people?"?"

 

[Devil_666]

Ok, I was for a little discussion regarding this matter, but this conversation has turned into a cluster^^^^, and it's not going anywhere. Those who see 4 tails are seeing it and sticking by it, those that don't are sticking by that, no one's mind's changing or anything, there's just no point in having a pissing contest about it anymore. When it started, it seemed like those not seeing 4 may have just needed some alternate photos, clearly no photo is proof positive enough so not it's just a big back and forth, 3, no 4, no 3.

Cheer up, in about 2 months, we'll be enjoying this figure in our hands, provided you ordered somewhere getting it from HT and not DCD.

If I see definitive proof i.e. a production pic clearly showing 4 coat tails or a pic of the actual suit on display somwhere clearly showing 4 coat tails I'll believe it.. but until then I won't. So showing pics that have to be deciphered, studied and analyzed is not my idea of definitive proof. That's on some Bigfoot/Lochness monster type of ish like I mentioned before. Show me a pic like the SithCamaro pic but of the actual suit coat (NOT fan made) and I'll believe. I'm like Fox Mulder here.. "I WANT TO BELIEVE". Like I said, I don't care either way, it won't affect me or my purchase of the figure in the least.

And yes..

<----HT shipment from Mista305. COME ON JULY!!!!

 

[MaulFan]

I just want an unquestionably purple coat, that is all that I ask, let every other wrong thing stand but get the purple on the coat to show.

 

[Devil_666]

I just want an unquestionably purple coat, that is all that I ask, let every other wrong thing stand but get the purple on the coat to show.

So you're not happy with the color of the coat as it is now? If that's what we end up getting, I would be cool with it personally. It's nowhere near as dark as the v.1 which was my main concern because in low level light the v.1 coat is almost black and for example my Subject 1025 Baby Sitter (The Dead SS) has a dark blue vest and in the lighting my figures are in generally, that vest looks pretty much black with a hint of blue in certain angles. So as dark as the v.1 coat is, it would most certainly appear black (dark purple in certain angles) in my office. But the new MMS DX coat won't (as it's currently colored) so just as long as HT doesn't go darker, I'm straight.

 

[vodoun]

It's nowhere near as dark as the v.1 which was my main concern because in low level light the v.1 coat is almost black and for example my Subject 1025 Baby Sitter (The Dead SS) has a dark blue vest and in the lighting my figures are in generally, that vest looks pretty much black with a hint of blue in certain angles. So as dark as the v.1 coat is, it would most certainly appear black (dark purple in certain angles) in my office. But the new MMS DX coat won't (as it's currently colored) so just as long as HT doesn't go darker, I'm straight.

Low level light? Thats a bit silly. Doesn't matter what you put in low level light it'll be dark. It's not going to keep it's true colour unless it glows.

Maul still never answered my question though.

Same here, the rest of it is pointless unless the purple tone of the coat stands out as purple and not some tone you need special lighting or squinting to see the purple in like the v1.

Was your purple coat darker than mine? or was it the same?

 

[Devil_666]

Low level light? Thats a bit silly. Doesn't matter what you put in low level light it'll be dark. It's not going to keep it's true colour unless it glows.

What are babbling on about!? I never said I expected the coat to keep it's true color, if you would've actually read what I wrote you'd see I was saying since the coat is LIGHTER now, in the lighting I'll be displaying the figure the coat WILL NOT appear to be black. Will it darken up? Yes. But not to the point where it's black.

 

[vodoun]

Are you throwing a tantrum?

I'm babbling about your trivia. You certainly sounded like it was to remain it's natural look in low level light. It's not my fault you don't make it clear.

I'm curious how many people actually feel this way because the only people that seem so utterly fussed about this so called blackness that I never seem to see, it is you. Maul has spoken about it in the past but you seem to have an obsessive compulsive disorder over it.

I don't see everyone marching about the colour like you. :s

 

[agonistes86]

No. I just checked it out (it's actually around 2:16 on my DVD) and what you're seeing is the split of the inner coat agonistes86. Not the overcoat.

Damn, my bad.

Edit: Just realized, does that mean that the HT inner jacket is wrong?