So where are the mods... I thought the moderators are suppose to control things not let things get out of hand. Or put things back on course. It seems very lackadaisical.
There's no real need for mod intervention. The mods step in when there's personal attacks. This discussion is just 2 sides with a firm position continuously posting that position. People are being civil to one another, it's just a discussion that's like a dog chasing its own tail, going and going, but going nowhere.