Hot Toys - MMS DX 11 - TDK: The Joker 2.0 Collectible Figure specs and pics

[ZaCHw117]

Name 3 (aside from Kato)

Holy signature!

 

[batfan08]

I actually believe that this and the DX 12 may actually be on time, for the simple fact that there are some fans who just like to have the "new, hip thing." I saw people selling their DX01's and DX02's when 89 was announced, and now I see people considering parting with the DX08's and DX09's for these. If HT is planning to reveal the Batman Returns offerings in December, I think that they're going to get these out first.

Lately, at least with Batman, it seems like one right after the other. Begins EX. hits, 89 figures are shown after it ships. 89 figures ship, Returns and the Batmobile are announced. I predict we'll see Returns specs and pics right around the time that these ship, and we'll see our first 66 offerings right about when Returns ships. That might explain the February to September gap between Bane and the Camo Tumbler if they're intending to fit Returns Bats in between there.

 

[cokebabies]

What is it about Dexter that theres a clampdown there yet so much else goes unnoticed.

Because Showtime wants us to spend money on their ____ty licensed Dexter figures. If there was any other option, people will definitely choose that.

 

[Viking Spawn]

WTH?

 

[Tick-Tock]

So because it happens to you, it's OK to endorse it happening to others?

Nope. Simply means I'm entitled not to be lectured to by the likes of you.

What does this have to do with anything? We've already established that Hot Toys respects IP rights. They're the ones paying for the license.

Come on, man. Don't pretend not to get my point. Hot Toys pays licensing fees 'cause it has to, it sells it's wares in the UK, the US and other countries where theft of IP isn't tolerated. If it was hocking these solely on the streets of China it's unlikely this would be the case. And the reason that companies like Hot Toys can exist is because they were built on the back of unlicensed commerce.

Would you like to add anything else in defense of the company you don't work for?

As for those of you talking smack about Adam, or insisting that he doesn't own Heath Ledger's face, well, I anticipate the day he returns to these boards and has a new sculpt far and away superior to what Hot Toys is offering. Perhaps he will once again be accorded the respect he is due. I maintain that without his sculpts it is highly unlikely we would have the Joker 2.0.

 

[Imaresqd1]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

Nope. Simply means I'm entitled not to be lectured to by the likes of you.



Come on, man. Don't pretend not to get my point. Hot Toys pays licensing fees 'cause it has to, it sells it's wares in the UK, the US and other countries where theft of IP isn't tolerated. If it was hocking these solely on the streets of China it's unlikely this would be the case. And the reason that companies like Hot Toys can exist is because they were built on the back of unlicensed commerce.

Would you like to add anything else in defense of the company you don't work for?

As for those of you talking smack about Adam, or insisting that he doesn't own Heath Ledger's face, well, I anticipate the day he returns to these boards and has a new sculpt far and away superior to what Hot Toys is offering. Perhaps he will once again be accorded the respect he is due. I maintain that without his sculpts it is highly unlikely we would have the Joker 2.0.

 

[Hydeous]

Looking forward to it, Adam

 

[krec9]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

very well said man i understand where your coming from .

 

[ZsaszSays]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

So much respect for you Adam...you're definitely an adult and understand reality. Thats very noble to say what you did.

 

[spindrift]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

Well I can say you are very upright and brave to come out and state this...I applaud you. Mistakes in judgment happen. This isn't a Fort Knox robbery...you understand and I can't think of a single person who won't accept what you have admitted to. Good Luck with all your future projects and talent like yours will be rewarded!

 

[batfan08]

Nope. Simply means I'm entitled not to be lectured to by the likes of you.



Come on, man. Don't pretend not to get my point. Hot Toys pays licensing fees 'cause it has to, it sells it's wares in the UK, the US and other countries where theft of IP isn't tolerated. If it was hocking these solely on the streets of China it's unlikely this would be the case. And the reason that companies like Hot Toys can exist is because they were built on the back of unlicensed commerce.

Would you like to add anything else in defense of the company you don't work for?

As for those of you talking smack about Adam, or insisting that he doesn't own Heath Ledger's face, well, I anticipate the day he returns to these boards and has a new sculpt far and away superior to what Hot Toys is offering. Perhaps he will once again be accorded the respect he is due. I maintain that without his sculpts it is highly unlikely we would have the Joker 2.0.

First off, noone ever said anything derogatory about Adam, we were only talking about what he did (which, in a technical sense, IS stealing). Honestly, a lot of these guys have nothing against Adam, but some of his borderline fanatical supporters. If you recall, you're the one who first brought up the concept of Hot Toys "stealing" from Adam. In my eyes, Haytil is in no way disrespecting Adam, he just took off the rose colored glasses and looked at things without letting personal bias cloud what's actually going on (unlike some people).

Again, I don't think that anyone harbors any ill feelings toward Adam, but one thing that I dislike is the "stick up for the little guy, regardless of what he does, because he's the little guy" rationale. At the end of the day, wrong is wrong, whether it happens to the little guy or big business. I mean no disrespect to Adam, but one of the things that I think frustrates people the most is the "Adam can do no wrong" mindset that some of his supporters maintain. It's ridiculous.

 

[spindrift]

First off, noone ever said anything derogatory about Adam, we were only talking about what he did (which, in a technical sense, IS stealing). Honestly, a lot of these guys have nothing against Adam, but some of his borderline fanatical supporters. If you recall, you're the one who first brought up the concept of Hot Toys "stealing" from Adam. In my eyes, Haytil is in no way disrespecting Adam, he just took off the rose colored glasses and looked at things without letting personal bias cloud what's actually going on (unlike some people).

Again, I don't think that anyone harbors any ill feelings toward Adam, but one thing that I dislike is the "stick up for the little guy, regardless of what he does, because he's the little guy" rationale. At the end of the day, wrong is wrong, whether it happens to the little guy or big business. I mean no disrespect to Adam, but one of the things that I think frustrates people the most is the "Adam can do no wrong" mindset that some of his supporters maintain. It's ridiculous.

Well said.........Yeah Adam is more humble about his talent and business practices than some of these "supporters" who will lash out in any way they can..sheeeeesh. All good now!

 

[intothevoid]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

 

[Maglor]

First off, I'd like to thank Tick-Tock, Intothevoid, and many other members here for your support.
I found it very interesting that there's other professional artist selling unlicensed Joker figures at a much higher price, and no one has said anything in terms of legality...
Hot toys does own the license of the Joker, and it's perfectly reasonable for them to do the best they can with the license they've paid for. And I think they did a great job. If they really did get any inspiration from my sculpts, I'm honored! I doubt that's the case tho.

For those of you who are familiar with me here, I was never comfortable with selling my stuff.(Maybe you've sent pms to me in the past without hearing back from me. Sorry).
I sold a very limited edition of a few of my sculpts before the massive release of the Wayne heads. I was in college at that time, and some extra cash was pretty darn great to help out between my tuition and rent, but that doesn't justify what I did, and it was wrong. It was stealing.
Commercializing sculpts of movie character/ celebrity without license is illegal for sure. In my case, I did not come up with the idea or the imagery of the Joker or Bruce Wayne, and I simply just copied their likenesses to the best of my ability from photographs.
I'm sorry for what I did in the past, and from now on I'd like to keep all my unlicensed stuff strictly personal, and I am working on some licensed sculpts too. I'll occasionally take one of a kind private commissions strictly on private basis.
Lastly, I will have pics of the DX11 head side by side with my attempt when it comes out. Hopefully, my attempt will be somewhat compatible with the DX11.
I'd like to thank you all for your understanding and support. You all have been very kind to me. Thank you!

Sincerely

Adam

^^^ Classy guy.



I would like to hear more about the "I am working on some licensed sculpts too" bit!

 

[Voorhees27]

You're a classy kid, Adam

I'd have been less professional. Something along the lines of mentioning mother insults and plenty of F words.

 

[Maglor]

You're a classy kid, Adam

I'd have been less professional. Something along the lines of mentioning mother insults and plenty of F words.

Something along these lines.

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

People have the right to make customs. Hot Toys cant stop them from doing them or from selling them. If I was someone doing the customs I would keep doing them and tell hot toys to suck it. Legally they have no grounds to stop you from handmade items.

Adam seems like a classy and intelligent guy but who wants to bet he made that post on his own without getting some angry email in broken english to scare him into saying it?

 

[Tyranus7]

I'd love to see an Adam's Bruce Wayne from TDKR .... Too bad he is not going to do more massive sales anymore..

 

[SnakeDoctor]

People have the right to make customs. Hot Toys cant stop them from doing them or from selling them. If I was someone doing the customs I would keep doing them and tell hot toys to suck it. Legally they have no grounds to stop you from handmade items.

Legally, they actually do. They don't usually pursue it ... but they can stop you. Cease/desist. Injunctions. Prosecutions. Hefty fines for license infringement, etc. Trademark or copyright infringement in certain cases. They can take the product, every nickel you make selling something they own, and high penalties and attorney's fees on top of it.

I sat through several intellectual property classes in law school. They have legal recourse.

SnakeDoc

 

[DiFabio]

No forum community is without customs. But this forum community is without unlicensed custom crime because of the Imaresqd1 Act. The Imaresqd1 act gave licensed enforcement teeth in it's fight against customs. Now people are talking about repealing the Imaresqd1 act and to them I say, not on my watch.