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[Fisherprice]

In the words of R.Kelly " I dont see nothing wrong..."

 

[ShadowX81]

I am not saying Marvel has not done a decent job at diversity, but Ultimates pushed it a bit further (for the better in my opinion) making Wasp East Asian (Chinese specifically as I recall) and Nick Fury black (and clearly based specifically on Samuel L.). Millar also introduced a gay Colossus in Ultimate X-Men, which I thought was a fun change.

Still I would have preferred either a more powerful female Avenger than Black Widow (she is so out of her league) or a female Loki in terms of the film.

It seems like this is just diversity for the sake of it. Really, how would the film have been better with an asain Wasp, gay Colossus, or female Loki? The story would have been exactly the same weather they are all white, black, gay, or whatever; so I really don't see the point. This is a movie, not a college brochure.

Cap needs to get with the modern world. First he needs a really expensive outfit that he can't afford so he puts it on a credit card then he can complain about the credit card company. He needs a facebook account and twitter and he needs to have an expectation that everything should magically be provided for him.
He needs to drop the 'F' bomb every other word. He needs to realize that people have evolved from the silly ideas of standards and morality so that now every bad behavior is just a 'lifestyle choice'.
No one gets the old fogey who thinks people should be responsible for their own actions. When people, although not perfect, were by in large more courteous and weren't afraid to call evil for what it was.
Captain America is a symbol, and much like the flag, the constitution and our core principles, should remain virtually unchanged.
There's no need to reinvent something when you got it so right.

I think you just became my new favorite person.

 

[KBA]

This is a movie, not a college brochure..

 

[badrat]

It seems like this is just diversity for the sake of it. Really, how would the film have been better with an asain Wasp, gay Colossus, or female Loki? The story would have been exactly the same weather they are all white, black, gay, or whatever; so I really don't see the point. This is a movie, not a college brochure.


I think you just became my new favorite person.

Well, it may not be a big deal for you but it could be for someone whose Asian, Black or gay.

 

[Bliz]

It seems like this is just diversity for the sake of it. Really, how would the film have been better with an asain Wasp, gay Colossus, or female Loki? The story would have been exactly the same weather they are all white, black, gay, or whatever; so I really don't see the point.

Of course you (and people who think like this) woudn't As long as the comic book universe in 95 percent white and male there seems to be happiness. Try to get in some diversity and then it becomes an issue because certain people can't "understand." There ARE female/minority/etc. comic book readers who would like to feel just as much a part of the comic book universe as white folks have for the past 30+ years.

If the story would have been exactly the same (as you pointed out) then why complain if there is a nonwhite/female character? So if Nick Fury is Nick Fury then whether he looks like David Hasselhoff of Sam Jackson should not matter storywise (because it doesn't) but it does acknowledge that white folks (READ males) aren't the only ones capabale of being heroic and/or running things...

somethimes the comic book community is just like the tea party....I feel like I'm watching Fox News here based on the comments of some....

 

[RaZaTrOn]

We don't need to read or fictionally see white/black/Asian or gay people being heroes to KNOW that anyone has the potential to be a hero in REAL life. If you need some fictious material to reinforce the idea that anybody can be a hero then you need to take a look around the real world and see all the people, no matter what their colour/country/sex doing heroic things each day.

I don't read Spider-man and think holy crap he's white that means i'm Spider-man. I read Spider-man and think oh wow I understand Peter's pain right now, I associate with that, let me continue to read so i see how he deals with it. That's the same for anyone in the world, it's just a hand full of people who seem to think the colour/descent of a character matters when it doesn't.

And don't pull that "if it doesn't matter then why can't he be 'x'" because... if it doesn't matter why can't he be what he's written as.

 

[ShadowX81]

Of course you (and people who think like this) woudn't As long as the comic book universe in 95 percent white and male there seems to be happiness. Try to get in some diversity and then it becomes an issue because certain people can't "understand." There ARE female/minority/etc. comic book readers who would like to feel just as much a part of the comic book universe as white folks have for the past 30+ years.

If the story would have been exactly the same (as you pointed out) then why complain if there is a nonwhite/female character? So if Nick Fury is Nick Fury then whether he looks like David Hasselhoff of Sam Jackson should not matter storywise (because it doesn't) but it does acknowledge that white folks (READ males) aren't the only ones capabale of being heroic and/or running things...

It seems a bit backwards to me that a character has to be black/female/gay in order for that person to relate to them. I can relate perfectly fine to characters that are not in my demographic.

Isn't the whole point of equality not to be seperated by arbitrary barriers such as race and sexual orientation. You shouldn't need a character whose skin color or sexual identity matches your own for you to feel kinship with them, or to know that someone with that trait is capable of being a hero (How exactly would a female Loki help this anyway?) ; and anyone that does need that reinforcement has some serious self-esteem problems.

This whole suggestion seems like advocationg for meeting arbitrary quotas rather than an idea which would actually improve the movie.

Also, don't play the racist card. It's beneath you.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

Are we really talking about this... here...

Some people...

 

[Anzik]

As I stated earlier, Marvel has been "Inclusive" since the early 60's. On numerous occasions minorities have been given their own titles and the decision to discontinue them has never been racial, but only a reflection of sales. I didn't see a drop in sales when Black Panther was a member of the FF, or Iron Man sales drop when when Rhodey took over as War Machine. This view of rampant racism is a myth, just like your tea party analogy. Didn't they back Herman Cain (Black), Sarah Palin (Female), Bobby Jindal (Indian), Michelle Bachman (female), Nikki Haley (Indian/American AND female), Allen West (Black and Lt Colonel, which is sort of like Nick Fury)?
Incidentally I would be opposed to having a white guy cast as Luke Cage.
Just because something is repeated frequently doesn't make it true.

 

[badrat]

Are we really talking about this... here...

Some people...

Agreed. Move on. Religion, race and politics are subjects that won't be won on figure forums. No one will make the other person see their point, so let's just drop it and get back on topic.

 

[Bliz]

We don't need to read or fictionally see white/black/Asian or gay people being heroes to KNOW that anyone has the potential to be a hero in REAL life. If you need some fictious material to reinforce the idea that anybody can be a hero then you need to take a look around the real world and see all the people, no matter what their colour/country/sex doing heroic things each day.

Again then why the issue with a person being protrayed as different then they were....if it is such a minute issue...why was it bought up in the first place.

I don't read Spider-man and think holy crap he's white that means i'm Spider-man. I read Spider-man and think oh wow I understand Peter's pain right now, I associate with that, let me continue to read so i see how he deals with it. That's the same for anyone in the world, it's just a hand full of people who seem to think the colour/descent of a character matters when it doesn't.

there seems to be quite a vocal outcry...look at the events regarding Ultimate Spider Man, some DC stuff, or even Marvel's The Truth. I will never cast blame on the majority BUT comics have historically represented one demographic more than others and some of those in that same demographic have cried foul when things change.

And don't pull that "if it doesn't matter then why can't he be 'x'" because... if it doesn't matter why can't he be what he's written as.

why can't I?? Obviously no one can answer why it is a non issue one way but an issue the other direction. I'd love to hear someone explain why one isn't a big deal and the other is...I mean if the only character change is race/sex then why does it matter?

 

[Bliz]

It seems a bit backwards to me that a character has to be black/female/gay in order for that person to relate to them. I can relate perfectly fine to characters that are not in my demographic.

Again the issue is....IF it's NOT and issue (i.e. nobody cares is Nick Fury is green, red, or purple) then why was it made an issue a few pages ago. Are we all expected to enjoy a comic book universe with a 90+ percent population who looks one way when the readership/world is only a token in the comic universe? And if it is "backwards" for a character to be ______ then why is it not backwards that that they should all continue to be the same demographic they have historically been?

Isn't the whole point of equality not to be seperated by arbitrary barriers such as race and sexual orientation. You shouldn't need a character whose skin color or sexual identity matches your own for you to feel kinship with them, or to know that someone with that trait is capable of being a hero

Yes...but both the real and comic book world are far from that...and as long as some people are irate because comic book character X (ones that are gender/race neutral) are protrayed as anything other than white guys (Nick Fury, Heimdall, etc) then this problem will continue

(How exactly would a female Loki help this anyway?)

that depends on who you ask....I'm sure SOME people appreciated seeing that....I didn't care one way or the other...

; and anyone that does need that reinforcement has some serious self-esteem problems.

Oy vey!!! Says the people who have comic book characters look like them over 90 percent of the time (yet yell the loudest when something changes!)

This whole suggestion seems like advocationg for meeting arbitrary quotas rather than an idea which would actually improve the movie.

So a black Nick Fury made a HUGE difference in Avengers vs a white one? Nick Fury was THAT important? Its not about quotas...just reflecting the world (which is frowned upon I guess because people read comics to escape from the real world...and live in a world where almost EVERYBODY look like them and the ones that don't only show up every so often and act like how they imagine they should act....)

Also, don't play the racist card. It's beneath you.

I don't recall saying anyone/thing was racist....I do remember making a simple comment and the conversation moving on from there. I am questioning the "rationale" of how something cannot and is a big deal at the same time.....

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

Comics have historically represented one demographic more than others and some of those in that same demographic have cried foul when things change.

Perhaps this is because the most popular of comics were all written in a time when there was rampant racism. And perhaps it is because they were for most part created by white males. Writers tend to write what they know in regards to sex,race, and religion ya know.

And perhaps those people who cry foul are no different than whose who cry foul when a novel is made into a movie and something is different. "The book is better than the movie. THAT didn't happen in the book," all come to mind.

This conversation is stupid. It's like me demanding Harry Potter be redone as an American, so I can identify with him more.

 

[Bliz]

As I stated earlier, Marvel has been "Inclusive" since the early 60's. On numerous occasions minorities have been given their own titles and the decision to discontinue them has never been racial, but only a reflection of sales.

You honestly think that? The biggest hurdle is being labeled a "black book." This label only seems to crop up in books where a black person is the title character. Priest's Black Panther was one of the best runs of BP and consistently was on the verge of cancellation, why; the dreaded "black book" label. Milestone Media churned out QUALITY books on time (something Image couldn't do) and recieved minimal coverage for Wizard, Hero, or other comic book newsmags. When the bulk of readership is not minority (and label books that stars a minority a "black/asian/latino book" the cancellation is due to sales AND racial bias. Spider Man, X-men, etc don't have the problem....they are just comic books....Black Panther, War Machine, Bishop, etc have had to face the hurdle of being percieved as "for black people" first and then a comic book second

I didn't see a drop in sales when Black Panther was a member of the FF, or Iron Man sales drop when when Rhodey took over as War Machine.

Because they were part of a team/book that was majority white. People knew Stark was coming back (heck he was just about in every issue in some shape/form/fashion. Luke Cage wil continue to do well in Avengers/Thunderbolts/whatever crossover/team book he is in....but give him a series on his own and the dreaded "black book" label will crop up again and it will be cancelled....

This view of rampant racism is a myth, just like your tea party analogy.

sure...if you say so....

Didn't they back Herman Cain (Black), Sarah Palin (Female), Bobby Jindal (Indian), Michelle Bachman (female), Nikki Haley (Indian/American AND female), Allen West (Black and Lt Colonel, which is sort of like Nick Fury)?

I'm going to leave this alone...I used the Tea Party analogy because there are people here who wish to go back to a comic book time when the _______ knew their place. I did not mean it in a racial manner just that a good time for some people was not a good time for others....let's let this point drop. I don't want to get into politics or other "heavy" stuff.

Incidentally I would be opposed to having a white guy cast as Luke Cage

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I think anyone who knew Luke's origin would as well...who he is and how he got there is defined by his race. Nick Fury is a blank slate, Maria Hill is a blank slate,same with Loki, Wasp, and even Spider Man. ANYONE can be cast in these roles because they are defined by their ACTIONS not by how they look. The problem comes in when people get butt hurt when a blank slate is cast as something other than white..... And in the horror simple facts seemed to be ignored because of some sense of entitlement....

Just because something is repeated frequently doesn't make it true.

That's exactly what I think regarding people who insist on claiming that nonwhites playing roles traditionally played by white guys is a "bad" thing

 

[chRd]

Blah blah. Where's the thread on cap

 

[robbiethepainter]

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Hot Toys –MMS174 - The Avengers: 1/6th scale Captain America Limited Edition Collectible Figurine Specification

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The 1/6th scale Captain America Limited Edition Collectible Figurine specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Chris Evans as Captain America in his hero costume in the The Avengers movie

- Approximately 31 cm tall

- One (1) newly developed helmeted head

- One (1) newly developed alternate head with authentic likeness of Chris Evans as Captain America in the movie

- Muscular body with over 30 points of articulations

- Movie-accurate facial expression with detailed wrinkles and skin texture

- Nine (9) pieces of interchangeable gloved palms including:

- One (1) pair of palms for holding shield

- One (1) pair of palms for throwing palms

- One (1) right palm for pointing palms

- One (1) pair of relaxed palms

- One (1) pair of fists

- Each piece of head sculpt is specially hand-painted



Costume:

- One (1) blue, grayish-white and red garment with embossed pattern as well as stars in chest

- One (1) pair of blue pants

- One (1) blue belt with pouches

- One (1) pair of red boots



Weapons:

- One (1) metal-like electroplated shield

- One (1) metal-like battle damaged electroplated shield

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[robbiethepainter]

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Captain America

 

[Bliz]

Thanks!!! Man that Cap is a piece of wonder and awe! So the cheapest I've seen in at CSC for 193....has anyone seen it cheaper?

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

I still wish this figure came with an actual gun.

 

[CTO15]

anybody else notice that Cap's shield in the Avengers movie didn't have the same battle damage look like in TFA