Hot Toys - MMS187 - X-Men: The Last Stand: Wolverine

[intothevoid]

Likeness isn't there but it is a good looking figure.

Good looking figure > 100% likness sculpt

Figure looks great, price looks

For $100 figure looks great.

For $235, it looks utter garbage.

 

[robbiethepainter]

Click the pic! Buy now!

Hot Toys X-MEN - Wolverine - 1/6 scale figure

Uh... not this one Dave. Sorry. Ill have to find another way to support the boards.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

This is only $40 less than Joker who comes with a PERS head, Alternate head, bunch of weapons, more hands, layered outfit, table, chair and lightup base

And Wolverine only has one head, lightup base and some hands

 

[Mikekind]

I was expecting $199-I am more than shocked at the price.

Like everyone is saying, gonna wait for the inevitable part-out.

 

[DarthTrafford]

WOW
I guess they made my choice for me!
I'm glad I have the Origins version.
That much money for so little is an insult!
They must think fans will buy anything now!

 

[kryptonite1970]

Actually, having worked in retail most of my life, a $75 markup really isn't that bad. It's usually double.

I agree...there are times it's 300% mark-up.

 

[Aumakua]

I seriously bet Sideshow gets these from Hot Toys for under $160/ea. You do the math from there.

I still have a wholesale price list from Sideshow sitting around somewhere. It was posted on their site by accident a little over a year ago. I remember seeing that retailers paid hot toys about 35-40% less than retail for their figures (but normal retail business is 30-40% margin so no surprise there, too many people involved to get product to final customer, it would be like Apple selling to Amazon only and Amazon selling to Best Buy before we could get the final product). So My guess is that Sideshow was paying Hot Toys maybe 50% of retail or less! So on a $180 figure back then Sideshow probably paid Hot Toys $90 for it...

I believe 100% this is sideshow setting the prices, Hot Toys needs to find another distributor!

at $199 I would consider this, $235 for a non DX figure with 1 head sculpt and no accessories? I think I paid $165 for my original Wolverine and that was only a couple years ago! I think they have finally crossed that line of supply and demand and they will start to see profit drop because they are selling so little units. Can't blame them for trying though, they had to see what their cap was. Hulk looks like a bargain compared to Wolverine. Maybe on this figure they just figured since the original was going for $500 on ebay they could easily get $235 from anyone who didn't buy the original. I think they over estimate how many people that actually is though,

 

[robbiethepainter]

After the shock has now worn off, this makes me ask the question of why?
I know people instantly go towards greed, but is that the reason? Is it the license? Or the likeness rights? Is it complexity of costume? Is it to cover the cost of failed figures like Jake Sully? Is it in fact Sideshow? What do people think?

 

[Buttmunch]

Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure

 

[intothevoid]

After the shock has now worn off, this makes me ask the question of why?
I know people instantly go towards greed, but is that the reason? Is it the license? Or the likeness rights? Is it complexity of costume? Is it to cover the cost of failed figures like Jake Sully? Is it in fact Sideshow? What do people think?

It's HT's greed. They see people splashing stupid money on their figures in the secondary market and think they can now get away with bumping prices again.

No amount of realistic estimates of inflation account for the bumps in prices we've seen from them. Likeness costs are a constant (presumably not that much more expensive now as they were 2 years ago).

 

[gunm]

Doesn't matter who is setting the price. It's ridiculous and I'm not paying.

 

[FLOSI]

$235

$235

Holy crap, that was amazing.

 

[Apone]

Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure

Sure about that?

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=100054&ref=companion_cross_1000301

 

[The Skull]

I pre-ordered at bbts for 214.99, not to bad, this guy is alittle light on accessories but the base is pretty cool and lights up and its WOLVERINE so I'm happy, can't wait!!!

 

[greygoose]

Doesn't matter who is setting the price. It's ridiculous and I'm not paying.

Looks like this figure is the one that has finally pissed people off with the ridiculous pricing.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

Man... I would TOTALLY spend $65 more and get me another Hulk

I thought this one was a $170 figure TOPS...

 

[moose]

Well since the new movie is comming out we really dont have to be foreced in to getting this figure is we want a wolverine representation and to be frank all this prices hikes do is make people more picky so this mark up id due to the stand screw the stand man it not needed

 

[ali032373]

Not since Indy have i seen such rebellion.

 

[Aumakua]

Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure

Yes and no, its a combination. Say in the past Sideshow was selling it for $180 on their site and $125 to retailers, you know their cost was probably $90. So Hot Toys saw figures selling for double what they got and sometimes triple on ebay. So they kept jacking up prices. What happens is that Hot Toys raises the price from $90 to $100 to Sideshow, well Sideshow doesn't want to lose margin so they go from $180 to $200, happens with all types of business, no one reduces margin because their costs went up unless competition requires it but there is no competition. Its like Gas, oil goes up 10% in price, so does gasoline (or more), gas stations still make their same margin as always. So now if Hot toys wants $115-$120 for their figure from Sideshow, we will start seeing $235 to $240 retails, so the more "greedy" Hot Toys gets the more money Sideshow makes, until they hit the point where WE stop buying, then someone needs to budge, either Hot Toys needs to lower cost to Sideshow or Sideshow needs to realize they can't make 100% markup on TOYS this expensive anymore and should be more than happy making 80% on them which is still more profit than when they were selling them for $160.

The fact that retailers who buy from Hot Toys will so easily discount 10% on pre-orders shows you they have a ton of profit in them.

 

[IrishJedi]

But most places are only giving about a 10% discount from Sideshow's and then charging shipping, so it usually makes it about the same price.

I'm not defending them or anything, I'm just sayin'.

Everybody has to make money somehow. Unless you can buy wholesale, you're gonna pay a high markup. Even Walmart gets things for 50 cents and sells them for $3.

If this came with another headsculpt, especially one that looks like Hugh, I might consider it, but since my pretend boyfriend said no, it's a pass for me.

There is no excuse for the price of this figure. None. It's just plain greed.