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Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I still can't believe they made Coulson but other characters who were actually pretty major throughout the entire Dark Knight Trilogy such as Alfred or Lucius Fox weren't made. I know some people argue about limited appeal but I don't see how they'd be any more limited than some of the obscure figures (Coulson included) that get made.

That's because you don't understand that Coulson isn't obscure.

He's quite possibly more popular than Thor.

I don't see how it matters what accessories they come with.

It matters because these are toys, and accessories are understood to be a core component of the action figure medium.

Plenty of Hot Toys figures come with just extra sets of hands or like one item.

And people are unhappy when this is the case. Look at all the (rightful) complaining going on about Catwoman coming with a pair of hands and a single accessory (a pistol).

I still think that if they were exclusives packed in with a more popular character (say Wayne/Alfred or Fox/Commissioner Gordon) they'd sell.

They'd sell more than if they were sold on their own - but they'd sell less than the more popular characters would sell if those popular characters weren't part of 2-pack. (i.e, Fox/Commissioner Gordon would sell a lot more than just Fox, but also a lot less than just Commissioner Gordon).

For most collectors, the pack-in would just be an extra $200 price-tag on the figure they want, and all they get for their trouble is an extra figure they don't want anyhow.

They aren't mass movers but fans would want them.

Fans and collectors focused on very specific, narrow lines and collections would want them - broader collectors would pass them over. It's in Hot Toys' best interest to release figures that appeal to both groups simultaneously.

Really how is Coulson that much more toy worthy? He's a plain guy in a suit, so he has a walkie talkie and a gun so that suddenly makes him more worthy of a toy?

People buy the toy because of the character he represents. Coulson is a desirable and hugely popular character.

Also Blake has a justifiable case for being made. Just because you don't like the film he was a big part of it.

Agreed, which is why it's not a surprise that he's been rumored to be in the works. You should ask yourself "What is the difference between Blake and Alfred, as it applies to making an action figure?" You'll find that there are quite a few.

Well, I disagree strongly about Blake and Gordon (and Alfred), because Gordon and Alfred are important for the Trilogy, and Blake is one of the main characters in TDKR (and Talia, sure).

Importance to the trilogy is not really much of a criteria used in determining whether or not a character that is made into a figure.

Really weird they did not make Ducard and Crane yet.

They made Crane a few years ago, as a Toy Fair Exclusive.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I thought Blake would be a Toy Fairs Ex :slap shows how much I know.

I can see HT making a Blake eventually but maybe not Alfred or Lucius. I think they would of made those two by now. :dunno

Here are my Batman bashed figs:

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Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

That's because you don't understand that Coulson isn't obscure.

He's quite possibly more popular than Thor.



It matters because these are toys, and accessories are understood to be a core component of the action figure medium.



And people are unhappy when this is the case. Look at all the (rightful) complaining going on about Catwoman coming with a pair of hands and a single accessory (a pistol).



They'd sell more than if they were sold on their own - but they'd sell less than the more popular characters would sell if those popular characters weren't part of 2-pack. (i.e, Fox/Commissioner Gordon would sell a lot more than just Fox, but also a lot less than just Commissioner Gordon).

For most collectors, the pack-in would just be an extra $200 price-tag on the figure they want, and all they get for their trouble is an extra figure they don't want anyhow.



Fans and collectors focused on very specific, narrow lines and collections would want them - broader collectors would pass them over. It's in Hot Toys' best interest to release figures that appeal to both groups simultaneously.



People buy the toy because of the character he represents. Coulson is a desirable and hugely popular character.



Agreed, which is why it's not a surprise that he's been rumored to be in the works. You should ask yourself "What is the difference between Blake and Alfred, as it applies to making an action figure?" You'll find that there are quite a few.



Importance to the trilogy is not really much of a criteria used in determining whether or not a character that is made into a figure.



They made Crane a few years ago, as a Toy Fair Exclusive.

100,000 % agree with everything!! Great post:goodpost:
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

That's because you don't understand that Coulson isn't obscure.

He's quite possibly more popular than Thor.



It matters because these are toys, and accessories are understood to be a core component of the action figure medium.



And people are unhappy when this is the case. Look at all the (rightful) complaining going on about Catwoman coming with a pair of hands and a single accessory (a pistol).



They'd sell more than if they were sold on their own - but they'd sell less than the more popular characters would sell if those popular characters weren't part of 2-pack. (i.e, Fox/Commissioner Gordon would sell a lot more than just Fox, but also a lot less than just Commissioner Gordon).

For most collectors, the pack-in would just be an extra $200 price-tag on the figure they want, and all they get for their trouble is an extra figure they don't want anyhow.



Fans and collectors focused on very specific, narrow lines and collections would want them - broader collectors would pass them over. It's in Hot Toys' best interest to release figures that appeal to both groups simultaneously.



People buy the toy because of the character he represents. Coulson is a desirable and hugely popular character.



Agreed, which is why it's not a surprise that he's been rumored to be in the works. You should ask yourself "What is the difference between Blake and Alfred, as it applies to making an action figure?" You'll find that there are quite a few.



Importance to the trilogy is not really much of a criteria used in determining whether or not a character that is made into a figure.



They made Crane a few years ago, as a Toy Fair Exclusive.
Agree to disagree then. There are a lot of hardcore fans of this particular franchise/version of Batman that would be interested. I personally think they'd sell just as well to Dark Knight Trilogy fans as a Coulson sold to Avengers fans. Maybe not the all time biggest sellers or anything but I think if they were made and especially as limited exclusives (like Coulson) they'd be able to move some units.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I thought Blake would be a Toy Fairs Ex :slap shows how much I know.

I can see HT making a Blake eventually but maybe not Alfred or Lucius. I think they would of made those two by now. :dunno

Here are my Batman bashed figs:

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Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Don't forget, Coulson is getting his own TV series. :D

I'd like a Blake though. Bale + JGL would look good beside West and Ward.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I don't see the need for a Blake figure. Doesn't have any cool outfits or accessories that were really seen on film and there are much better and popular characters from the batman film that I would rather see made

I also understand those who really want the figure though
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I thought Blake would be a Toy Fairs Ex :slap shows how much I know.

I can see HT making a Blake eventually but maybe not Alfred or Lucius. I think they would of made those two by now. :dunno

Here are my Batman bashed figs:

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Awesome job on that Blake. :clap
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I don't see the need for a Blake figure. Doesn't have any cool outfits or accessories that were really seen on film and there are much better and popular characters from the batman film that I would rather see made

I also understand those who really want the figure though

Sure. And they could include both his cop and detective outfits, with both gun and shotgun. But I think we will see cop only, because they already have almost all parts for it, except headsculpt of course.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

he should come with a duffel fulla grappling crap.

: D
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

I don't see the need for a Blake figure. Doesn't have any cool outfits or accessories that were really seen on film and there are much better and popular characters from the batman film that I would rather see made

I also understand those who really want the figure though
If you think of it Gordon isn't that special of a character looks wise generally either but people want another figure of him even though we already got the SWAT suit version. People like myself who are just fans of the entire trilogy just want as much as we can get character wise. I don't think every minor character needs to be made but it would be nice to get most of the leads.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Oh, I know. I would eat up more characters from the trilogy. I'd just prefer another updated Dent figure, Gordon, Blake if he get a reasonable price, a Bruce figure, Ra's, etc
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

This is all the Robin I'll ever need from Hot Toys. It's the only legitimate one.














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Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Burt Ward was a great Silver Age Robin I agree. That figure is damn impressive too if you ask me. I almost think it's a bit better than the Adam West Batman, which is great in it's own right but Hot Toys really nailed the Burt Ward headsculpt in my opinion.

I don't really count Blake as a Robin even though that's his name. That was done as more of a wink to fans not to imply that he was Robin. Even though he did have some moments where he helped Batman a bit.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Maybe not the all time biggest sellers or anything but I think if they were made and especially as limited exclusives (like Coulson) they'd be able to move some units.

Businesses don't choose to make a product just because they can move some units. They make products because they think they can move more of THAT unit than another unit.

Nope, it was Scarecrow.:lecture
Feel the difference!

lol, not sure if you're serious or not. They're the same character.

People are visually interested in a Scarecrow mask and a strait-jacket, representing a major villain from the Batman mythology. There are far fewer people who are just interested in Cillian Murphy wearing a business suit.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Businesses don't choose to make a product just because they can move some units. They make products because they think they can move more of THAT unit than another unit.
You really want to argue more about this? Seriously I want it, it's a wish. It doesn't mean that it's going to happen but it doesn't mean that I can't dream about it. Honestly I still don't think it's that far off considering they did a Coulson. I don't think Coulson would have necessarily sold huge numbers either but the fact that they made him a shorter run exclusive to Sideshow made him sell more probably. I think the same could be said about other characters but I may be wrong. I do think that the franchise has enough fans who are die hard enough that they'd probably be interested just like Avengers fans were about Coulson. I don't see how the logic applies in one instance but not another.
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Gotta agree with Haytil.


Cillian Murphy in a business suit is boring and not toyetic at all, I'm glad we got Scarecrow with his two looks. If only he had the mask on longer in the actual films instead of getting unmasked Scooby Doo style and getting defeated like a ***** at every turn.


Scarecrow action figure > Crane doll
 
Re: Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises - Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Detective John Blake ??

Gotta agree with Haytil.


Cillian Murphy in a business suit is boring and not toyetic at all, I'm glad we got Scarecrow with his two looks. If only he had the mask on longer in the actual films instead of getting unmasked Scooby Doo style and getting defeated like a ***** at every turn.


Scarecrow action figure > Crane doll
If they were going to do a Crane they should have included a second headsculpt with the initial Scarecrow release. As it stands I doubt they'll revisit the character.
 
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