1/6 Hot Toys MMS351 Captain America: Civil War The Winter Soldier Collectible Figure

[Sassafras]

Same

I've given up on any October release, and maybe November. Every site I go to lists a Nov/Dec expected ship date.

Which would be OK, except there are other figures I want w. Nov/Dec expected ship dates $$$. Bucky is a priority for me, and CW Falcon - so, guess I'll be waiting on SW and some others.

But, looks like Sideshow's Halloween deals or whatever are kicking off this week, maybe I'll be able to grab a good coupon to ease the pain $$$.

 

[Sassafras]

He might have kept weapons in the fridge, as when on a mission Bucky was usually not in one place very long. He sure wasn't stocking the fridge, or buying gun cabinets. He was a highly-trained operative "behind enemy lines" for Hydra, so to speak, and he lived as such. During several Hydra missions, Bucky would go rogue for weeks or months at a time, once being found living in a NYC flophouse. He often lived VERY rough.

Hydra would have to go find him, and he wasn't easy to find at all. "The asset," they call him. "We must recover the asset."

I became super curious about Bucky's origin, which I knew the sketchy details of but wanted to flesh out. For those feeling likewise, allow me to recommend the following TPB - rather expensive but totally worth it, IMO - and you'll know all there is to know so far.

https://www.amazon.com/Captain-Amer...1&keywords=captain+america+winter+soldier+TPB

I think a lot of female fans tend to downscale Bucky's threat level, imagining that he was "scared" or that he was a frail, fragile soul. While Bucky is UNDOUBTABLY a tragic figure - just a LITTLE!! wow - he was no coward and no patsy. He absolutely meant business.

Appreciate the link! Well, can't speak for all female fans, but srsly for myself - srsly - Bucky/WS is a favorite re being IMO a complex, tragic figure as presented on screen, at this point w. a fragmented mind - pretty much as the Russos and Sebastian Stan describe in different articles about the character. What's happened to Bucky is pretty horrific.

But IMO you can't think of Bucky as frail re the simple fact that he SURVIVED what was done, and also, apparently, in some deep corner of his mind, was able to preserve himself - e.g., he recognizes Steve. I got the impression - tho it's not depicted, really, in the films - that WS was a favorite of the Soviets, because he was both strong, and intelligent. Even if they had to repeatedly scramble his brain to keep him in line. Only the strongest survive Hydra - Bucky, the twins, even Red Skull. IMO Bucky coming to terms w. the mayhem he's done is another kind of strength "I remember all of them" (tho I'd argue, like Hawkeye/Loki, if you are "de-selfed" then it isn't "you" which CA understands and IM is too angry to hear in CW...)

IMO the "real" Bucky is a great guy, honorable, but he's a SOLDIER and behaves like one e.g. he can and will kill.

WS on a mission is absolutely deadly. IMO we even see a bit of that in the first CA, with Bucky being a sharpshooter. Completely focused. As Sebastian Stan commented, the Winter Soldier is someone who'd kill you with anything at hand. Or like Widow says, "he shot him right through me". Less of that in CW because Bucky is just trying to get away, most of the time, but even so there's a bunch of German Special Forces guys recovering someplace It's interesting IMO that Bucky DOESN'T try to kill IM, at the last, simply disable him.

IMO the Russos and the actor and writers etc. have been amazing depicting this character's arc. Some fans like me just having some fun waiting for our new figs, and the *&^%$ films which never come fast enough (2018?????!!!!!!). IMO worth getting two Buckys and some accessories in the meantime to work with.

So far I've had no luck matching the Harley in 1:6 scale, but just started looking....
https://www.brandchannel.com/2016/05/09/captain-america-civil-war-product-placement-050916/

Hope eventually I can get close to the bike used, if not an exact match, for display.

 

[TräshCät]

I was hoping the update in this thread was stating that it had finally been released.

Same ... T_T

Sure got my hopes up ...

 

[Ramatuelle]

If we get Bucky before 12/31 we will be extremely lucky. I'm not expecting to see ship notifications; what'd I really like to see are blogger pix from someone like Jingobell. When we see blogger pix you know that figure is about to drop. So when this thread gets bumped, that's my hope: blogger pix.

 

[kurisuchie2kimi]

I've given up on any October release, and maybe November. Every site I go to lists a Nov/Dec expected ship date.

Which would be OK, except there are other figures I want w. Nov/Dec expected ship dates $$$. Bucky is a priority for me, and CW Falcon - so, guess I'll be waiting on SW and some others.

But, looks like Sideshow's Halloween deals or whatever are kicking off this week, maybe I'll be able to grab a good coupon to ease the pain $$$.

Yeah, I'm actually in the process of cancelling my pre order for this and Cap with my local, because for starters my local says they won't get Cap until November (r u srs) and I can't wait that long, and considering the wait already for Bucky, I'm cancelling in case it takes them until like March to get him in Once they're cancelled I'll go buy Cap from timcent, and then I'll wait for Buck's release and do the same. I'm just sick of waiting But, if it means HT is doing a great job on him, I can be patient.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Sassafras: Well, can't speak for all female fans, but srsly for myself - srsly - Bucky/WS is a favorite re being IMO a complex, tragic figure as presented on screen, at this point w. a fragmented mind - pretty much as the Russos and Sebastian Stan describe in different articles about the character. What's happened to Bucky is pretty horrific

I should clarify that by female fans, I wasn't referring to you or anyone in this thread at all. I see a lot of stuff from female fans on FB that really makes me cringe. I think a lot of those girls are really young and have not fully assimilated what "soldier" means: soldiers are by default trained to kill. They're not puppies, or small lost boys - they are people who can kill you with a plastic spork. I am annoyed when Bucky gets infantilized like that. NO, BUCKY IS A BADASS!

IMO the Russos and the actor and writers etc. have been amazing depicting this character's arc. Some fans like me just having some fun waiting for our new figs, and the *&^%$ films which never come fast enough (2018?????!!!!!!). IMO worth getting two Buckys and some accessories in the meantime to work with.

So far I've had no luck matching the Harley in 1:6 scale, but just started looking....

Exactly; I enjoy discussing these subjects!

You know who I really want a 1:6 scale motorcycle for is CAP. When the first Avengers HT Cap dropped, someone on these boards put him on a scale 1940s motorcycle and it was truly jaw-dropping. Bucky would look good on a modern one! Or any kind!

 

[TräshCät]

I should clarify that by female fans, I wasn't referring to you or anyone in this thread at all. I see a lot of stuff from female fans on FB that really makes me cringe. I think a lot of those girls are really young and have not fully assimilated what "soldier" means: soldiers are by default trained to kill. They're not puppies, or small lost boys - they are people who can kill you with a plastic spork. I am annoyed when Bucky gets infantilized like that. NO, BUCKY IS A BADASS!

Absolutely agree. And, I'm not trying to generalize but many of those girls are fully emerged in their world of shipping and the role allocation for most ships has one be the female part thus is vulnerable and in need of saving/healing etc. There you go, the most badass characters turn into emotional wrecks and aren't all that dangerous anymore. Because you know, they wouldn't need saving then .... Many just see what they want to see and what fits their headcanons.

You know who I really want a 1:6 scale motorcycle for is CAP. When the first Avengers HT Cap dropped, someone on these boards put him on a scale 1940s motorcycle and it was truly jaw-dropping. Bucky would look good on a modern one! Or any kind!

I thought it would be really cool to get a bike for Steve, Buck and Logan ... a nice Harley for each of the three of them and a Vespa for Deadpool. XD That would make for an awesome display. Sadly, I don't have the space to do that. But I totally went and got the Liberator for TFA Steve.

 

[Sassafras]

Absolutely agree. And, I'm not trying to generalize but many of those girls are fully emerged in their world of shipping and the role allocation for most ships has one be the female part thus is vulnerable and in need of saving/healing etc. There you go, the most badass characters turn into emotional wrecks and aren't all that dangerous anymore. Because you know, they wouldn't need saving then .... Many just see what they want to see and what fits their headcanons.


I thought it would be really cool to get a bike for Steve, Buck and Logan ... a nice Harley for each of the three of them and a Vespa for Deadpool. XD That would make for an awesome display. Sadly, I don't have the space to do that. But I totally went and got the Liberator for TFA Steve.

Annnd, IMO, re the directors and actors commenting, the characters ARE hurting - Steve w. survivor guilt/loss; and then Bucky. IMO pretty powerful stuff without bringing in *other stuff* IMO that isn't in the films





PS. Your Cap looks amazing!!!!!

 

[Sassafras]

Yeah, I'm actually in the process of cancelling my pre order for this and Cap with my local, because for starters my local says they won't get Cap until November (r u srs) and I can't wait that long, and considering the wait already for Bucky, I'm cancelling in case it takes them until like March to get him in Once they're cancelled I'll go buy Cap from timcent, and then I'll wait for Buck's release and do the same. I'm just sick of waiting But, if it means HT is doing a great job on him, I can be patient.

LOL I can't let go of my POs, especially Bucky. 'Coz of being too confident over WS and then having to choke on after-market prices. Now I'm paranoid. And then I think, yah know, that if Infinity Wars really is gonna have 60 + characters where Bucky/WS will fit into all that and most of all what will he look like - but I really like THIS Bucky and WS, so....

On the other hand, at least there's some time to stash some cash (ha!) for the flood of Marvel figures to come. Including a BP w. a portrait - for me, I just can't get myself to spend that much w.out portrait and no accessories or interesting base. Even if I'd probably display masked a lot of the time. (Unless a really good coupon for BP pops up this week on Sideshow, but so far it's stuff I don't plan to get).

 

[Ramatuelle]

Awesome display, TrashCat! wow.

And, I'm not trying to generalize but many of those girls are fully emerged in their world of shipping and the role allocation for most ships has one be the female part thus is vulnerable and in need of saving/healing etc. There you go, the most badass characters turn into emotional wrecks and aren't all that dangerous anymore. Because you know, they wouldn't need saving then .... Many just see what they want to see and what fits their headcanons.

I think that's very well put, and its exactly whats happening.

Now I want that BWidow/WSoldier TPB, but that thing is hella expensive.

 

[Brett Banner]

Has anyone tried putting this outfit onto one of the newer Cap bodies? Sorry if it's already been discussed and didn't see it.


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[kurisuchie2kimi]

LOL I can't let go of my POs, especially Bucky. 'Coz of being too confident over WS and then having to choke on after-market prices. Now I'm paranoid. And then I think, yah know, that if Infinity Wars really is gonna have 60 + characters where Bucky/WS will fit into all that and most of all what will he look like - but I really like THIS Bucky and WS, so....

No way, I'm not letting go of the PO as in not getting the figure - I'm just getting rid of my PO with my local retailer, because being in New Zealand, I risk getting the figure way later than everyone else. I still don't have my CW Cap I'm just going to buy both from timcent on ebay when Bucky's released, that way I know I get him on time

 

[TimothyR]

I mostly collect iron man figures/bad guys when it comes to marvel.. But I decided to grab civil war captain america, and to even it out, I decided to preorder this as well. I couldn't just let tony and rhodey gang up on Steve.

 

[TräshCät]

I mostly collect iron man figures/bad guys when it comes to marvel.. But I decided to grab civil war captain america, and to even it out, I decided to preorder this as well. I couldn't just let tony and rhodey gang up on Steve.

No, that really wouldn't have been fair on your part! Good thing you decided to add Buck.

I really wish HT would finally release Bucky. I mean, I've already accepted that I probably won't see him this year but still ...
Lol, funny how I'll most likely get his parted-out head sculpt before I even get my copy of the full figure. XD I hate how long it takes retailers to get these in.

 

[Sassafras]

No, that really wouldn't have been fair on your part! Good thing you decided to add Buck.

I really wish HT would finally release Bucky. I mean, I've already accepted that I probably won't see him this year but still ...
Lol, funny how I'll most likely get his parted-out head sculpt before I even get my copy of the full figure. XD I hate how long it takes retailers to get these in.

No way, I'm not letting go of the PO as in not getting the figure - I'm just getting rid of my PO with my local retailer, because being in New Zealand, I risk getting the figure way later than everyone else. I still don't have my CW Cap I'm just going to buy both from timcent on ebay when Bucky's released, that way I know I get him on time

Is this all re slow shipping from U.S. to other countries? I've gotten some WETA stuff directly from NZ and been pretty surprised at how fast it can turn up. Provided you pay$$$.

But I have hope for Bucky - every seller I see him at still has Nov/Dec expected ship date. Plus, seems like re the BP thread some pics of BP have turned up online (haven't checked), so I would think IF BP is close (maybe) - maybe Bucky and Falcon are too. HT must know folks get tired of waiting.

Once I have LOL my Buckys and CA can spend some time working w. them. I tripped over an OLD Sideshow Premium format of Bucky as CA:
https://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Captain-America-Premium-Sideshow/dp/B004HIJSB8

And while I'm good with not having this - think this poly was put out in 2010? - IMO it's just another suggestion - maybe - in a way - that Bucky really will/might get a complete arc re some of the comic stories. Nomad and Bucky stepping up as CA, and Falcon and IM and BP. For me it would be a dream display, having that kind of CA arc w. key characters. And I can't see buying - eventually - 60+ Infinity War characters (60 x ~220$ = $13,200) + variants, so it's nice to concentrate on some favorites. OMG, never thought I'd be into Captain America.

 

[TräshCät]

OMG, never thought I'd be into Captain America.

same here, same here. I'm still amazed at how much I love that character now, considering that I originally refused to watch TFA and rolled my eyes whenever Cap came on screen in the Avengers. ^^''' haha I wanna slap my past self in the face ...

Sadly, my local retailer has Cap as December release so Bucky won't come this year no matter what.

Who knows, I might just get my Civvie Bucky before this one here ...

 

[Sassafras]

same here, same here. I'm still amazed at how much I love that character now, considering that I originally refused to watch TFA and rolled my eyes whenever Cap came on screen in the Avengers. ^^''' haha I wanna slap my past self in the face ...

For sure! Srsly, I didn't even BOTHER to watch TFA at first. *&&^%$ Captain America? Like, Mom, apple pie, and corn dogs? Huh. Where's a Predator when you need one?...total fail, even BOTHERING to make a movie over THAT "old fashioned Roy Rogers" character...I mean, IM is cool, but CA? What a WASTE...

Fast forward after ENLIGHTENMENT and I'm considering a stealth Cap at some point and have watched just about every Evans and Stan vid I can get my hands on AND for me the "bonded brothers" is the most important story arc/theme for me - LOL let Thanos blow up the universe, the IMPORTANT thing is will Bucky keep his original star or go for Cap's symbol?

There are no words to describe the utter awesomeness if that scene where CA drops his shield, and walks away with his friend, after they both nearly die to protect each other. Awesome Bucky. Awesome Captain America. Characters WORTHY of the "special shelf space". And steelbooks.

Sadly, my local retailer has Cap as December release so Bucky won't come this year no matter what.

Who knows, I might just get my Civvie Bucky before this one here ...

This sux!!! But with HT who knows - I'm thinking they really don't want to miss the "holiday market", do they? When every other company will be having sales and putting stuff out to get those dollars? Folks like their "instant gratification!"

 

[kurisuchie2kimi]

Is this all re slow shipping from U.S. to other countries? I've gotten some WETA stuff directly from NZ and been pretty surprised at how fast it can turn up. Provided you pay$$$.

Nah, ordering from the US is fairly fast. If I ordered Bucky through Sideshow he'd be here within the week, but my local retailer gets their shipments from Hot Toys, so it takes a little while - like how Europe gets their shipments later too. My local retailer got their AoU figures in shortly after Sideshow sent out their shipments, but it's been months and I'm still waiting for CW Cap to be released by my local retailer. They said it won't arrive until November I don't want to risk having to wait this long for Bucky, hence the cancellation with them

Also You guys and your not liking Cap at first!!

 

[TräshCät]

Also You guys and your not liking Cap at first!!

Haha, crazy right?
But seriously, I know a lot of people who still think Cap is boring and bland (my bf for one). I mean, consider this: The Cap movies aren't named "Captain America" here in Germany. Instead, their official names are "The First Avenger", "The Return Of The First Avenger" and "The First Avenger: Civil War". Why? Because most people here have no interest in watching a movie about a character that's called Captain America, especially not a few years ago. My bf for example would have never watched Civil War with me if he hadn't believed it to be an Avengers movie due to the title. Sad but true.

I wish I could just get Steve and Buck from other shops but everything from outside the EU will most likely cost me even more due to custom fees and import taxes, so I choose to save money and spend it on other figures. -__-

 

[TimothyR]

No, that really wouldn't have been fair on your part! Good thing you decided to add Buck.

I really wish HT would finally release Bucky. I mean, I've already accepted that I probably won't see him this year but still ...
Lol, funny how I'll most likely get his parted-out head sculpt before I even get my copy of the full figure. XD I hate how long it takes retailers to get these in.

Yeah I'm pretty excited. It just totally sucks that I'm going to have wait so long for the 46 to get released.. Oh well, I guess I could sub in the 45.

I sort of wish they had priced it at $250 and possibly give us his "undercover" look.. But I probably wouldn't ever use it, so scratch that lol.