The box art with all the SS figures has been stunning, this one the best so far. Much better than the BvS boxes, the WW box looks pretty underwhelming. Not that the box really matters but it's nice bonus to see some great art on there.
1/6 Hot Toys - MMS383 - Suicide Squad - Harley Quinn Collectible Figure
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The worst part about Wonder Woman is that they've already improved the headsculpt on the WW training version, so we know from the jump we're getting an inferior quality piece with the BVS version.
I mean of course we know there'd be better quality headsculpts/ figrues down the line, but having a vastly superior version announced and shown before the inferior version is even released makes it all the worse and destroys that "This is the best attempt yet" feeling you get from new HT figures.
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Time for a micro-review: I'm getting ready to go to work shortly. Spent maybe 20 minutes with this piece.
1. Mallet and bat look okay, but no attempt was made to give them a tactile wood-grain texture.
2. Gun is nice as are the speed loaders. Holster is just okay, but that's more the costuming (tacky PVC or patent leather) thing than a HT quality thing.
3. Paint -- the head sculpt and body are very well done. Metallic sheen on hair is nice. She looks -- well -- like a homicidal lunatic.
Or a young lady back from a helluva night out at the rock bar, take your pick.
4. Bracelets and choker are nice; screen grabs and references show her wearing only the spiked bracelets in some shots (or at least visible) with both spikes and purple cuffs in others.
The Hot Toys manual indicates using only one pair or the other, so I opted for spikes. Not as worried about paint rub with only one pair on, but still be careful.
5. Hands -- they're fine, but appear to be sculpted a touch soft. You can get used to the pegs by being very mindful about what position the peg and hand are when swapping and being exceptionally careful, but what a pain. Haven't noticed if that diagonal rotation axis is *that* much of an improvement.
6. Fishnets feel more durable than I thought, but still nerve-wracking. My copy has a couple of sub-millimetre irregularities in the net pattern but no actual tears or damage.
7. Knees -- they're okay but I don't think they're great. I will never pose this in a bent legged stance anyway so the neutral look is fine with me.
8. Body -- refreshing change to not have her proportioned like '90s Kate Moss.
9. Belt should have rode lower all around, unfortunately appears riveted together.
10. Boots -- not so bad. A little flat but the paint is clean enough.
11. Choker -- careful with that. That could be paint rub waiting to happen. The jewellery detail in general is good -- was worried about the right earring or earrings, but at regular viewing distance with the naked eye it looks fine.
12. Ponytails on mine are stiff but one did pop out, easily put back in.
Figure is heavy and balances well. This is one I had to see in-hand and I'll likely keep it a while, but no telling if it's going to end up a permanent resident until I've lived with it a while.
It's undoubtedly one of the more impressive Hot Toys figures I've owned, and thanks to the sculpt and the nature of the character, conveys a lot of attitude and brings some edge to the shelf.
Harley is a problematic character in that she was twisted and *created* by The Joker, and the DC cinematic universe is unapologetic about eclipsing her physical powers with her total submission to the Joker. I mean, she's in an abusive relationship.
Her overt sexuality is neither here nor there to me given my very liberal values, but the Property of Joker thing bugs me a bit. That said, it looks like a nice jacket but I haven't unpacked it yet.
There ya go -- first impressions complete with social commentary.
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1. Mallet and bat look okay, but no attempt was made to give them a tactile wood-grain texture.
2. Gun is nice as are the speed loaders. Holster is just okay, but that's more the costuming (tacky PVC or patent leather) thing than a HT quality thing.
3. Paint -- the head sculpt and body are very well done. Metallic sheen on hair is nice. She looks -- well -- like a homicidal lunatic.
Or a young lady back from a helluva night out at the rock bar, take your pick.
4. Bracelets and choker are nice; screen grabs and references show her wearing only the spiked bracelets in some shots (or at least visible) with both spikes and purple cuffs in others.
The Hot Toys manual indicates using only one pair or the other, so I opted for spikes. Not as worried about paint rub with only one pair on, but still be careful.
5. Hands -- they're fine, but appear to be sculpted a touch soft. You can get used to the pegs by being very mindful about what position the peg and hand are when swapping and being exceptionally careful, but what a pain. Haven't noticed if that diagonal rotation axis is *that* much of an improvement.
6. Fishnets feel more durable than I thought, but still nerve-wracking. My copy has a couple of sub-millimetre irregularities in the net pattern but no actual tears or damage.
7. Knees -- they're okay but I don't think they're great. I will never pose this in a bent legged stance anyway so the neutral look is fine with me.
8. Body -- refreshing change to not have her proportioned like '90s Kate Moss.
9. Belt should have rode lower all around, unfortunately appears riveted together.
10. Boots -- not so bad. A little flat but the paint is clean enough.
11. Choker -- careful with that. That could be paint rub waiting to happen. The jewellery detail in general is good -- was worried about the right earring or earrings, but at regular viewing distance with the naked eye it looks fine.
12. Ponytails on mine are stiff but one did pop out, easily put back in.
Figure is heavy and balances well. This is one I had to see in-hand and I'll likely keep it a while, but no telling if it's going to end up a permanent resident until I've lived with it a while.
It's undoubtedly one of the more impressive Hot Toys figures I've owned, and thanks to the sculpt and the nature of the character, conveys a lot of attitude and brings some edge to the shelf.
Harley is a problematic character in that she was twisted and *created* by The Joker, and the DC cinematic universe is unapologetic about eclipsing her physical powers with her total submission to the Joker. I mean, she's in an abusive relationship.
Her overt sexuality is neither here nor there to me given my very liberal values, but the Property of Joker thing bugs me a bit. That said, it looks like a nice jacket but I haven't unpacked it yet.
There ya go -- first impressions complete with social commentary.
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This figure's so good. Too bad they never attempted to make other figures such as Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, Katana or Diablo. Maybe they'll release them eventually as all of the SS figures seem like big sellers worldwide.
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Diablo was the fire dude? That would've made for a sick piece.
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My boxes ended up in the bin recently.
As nice as some are, including this one, they just take up space.
In the last week, I binned around 100+ 1:6 Hot Toys and SS boxes to discover that I whole extra room now !! Haha!!
Back to HQ: I went in yesterday expecting to get her, but only the Jokers and DS were in store ... maybe today...
As nice as some are, including this one, they just take up space.
In the last week, I binned around 100+ 1:6 Hot Toys and SS boxes to discover that I whole extra room now !! Haha!!
Back to HQ: I went in yesterday expecting to get her, but only the Jokers and DS were in store ... maybe today...
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Time for a micro-review: I'm getting ready to go to work shortly. Spent maybe 20 minutes with this piece.
1. Mallet and bat look okay, but no attempt was made to give them a tactile wood-grain texture.
2. Gun is nice as are the speed loaders. Holster is just okay, but that's more the costuming (tacky PVC or patent leather) thing than a HT quality thing.
3. Paint -- the head sculpt and body are very well done. Metallic sheen on hair is nice. She looks -- well -- like a homicidal lunatic.
Or a young lady back from a helluva night out at the rock bar, take your pick.
4. Bracelets and choker are nice; screen grabs and references show her wearing only the spiked bracelets in some shots (or at least visible) with both spikes and purple cuffs in others.
The Hot Toys manual indicates using only one pair or the other, so I opted for spikes. Not as worried about paint rub with only one pair on, but still be careful.
5. Hands -- they're fine, but appear to be sculpted a touch soft. You can get used to the pegs by being very mindful about what position the peg and hand are when swapping and being exceptionally careful, but what a pain. Haven't noticed if that diagonal rotation axis is *that* much of an improvement.
6. Fishnets feel more durable than I thought, but still nerve-wracking. My copy has a couple of sub-millimetre irregularities in the net pattern but no actual tears or damage.
7. Knees -- they're okay but I don't think they're great. I will never pose this in a bent legged stance anyway so the neutral look is fine with me.
8. Body -- refreshing change to not have her proportioned like '90s Kate Moss.
9. Belt should have rode lower all around, unfortunately appears riveted together.
10. Boots -- not so bad. A little flat but the paint is clean enough.
11. Choker -- careful with that. That could be paint rub waiting to happen. The jewellery detail in general is good -- was worried about the right earring or earrings, but at regular viewing distance with the naked eye it looks fine.
12. Ponytails on mine are stiff but one did pop out, easily put back in.
Figure is heavy and balances well. This is one I had to see in-hand and I'll likely keep it a while, but no telling if it's going to end up a permanent resident until I've lived with it a while.
It's undoubtedly one of the more impressive Hot Toys figures I've owned, and thanks to the sculpt and the nature of the character, conveys a lot of attitude and brings some edge to the shelf.
Harley is a problematic character in that she was twisted and *created* by The Joker, and the DC cinematic universe is unapologetic about eclipsing her physical powers with her total submission to the Joker. I mean, she's in an abusive relationship.
Her overt sexuality is neither here nor there to me given my very liberal values, but the Property of Joker thing bugs me a bit. That said, it looks like a nice jacket but I haven't unpacked it yet.
There ya go -- first impressions complete with social commentary.
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You make her sound too much like a victim. Do you really think they would write a straightforward abusive narrative? Let's look at it through Dr. Quinzel/Harley Quinn eyes. A conservative, straight-laced, uptight doctor meets the baddest boy of them all. How can she not find him alluring; he does what he wants when he wants. He has no regard for the law or anyone but his own psychotic self-gratification. The Joker reveals a suppressed sociopathic bad girl/slut fantasy desire that is chained down by her stiff starched blouse and glasses of our poor doctor. He is the instrument of her freedom and she is hooked at first sight..addicted to his criminal lifestyle, his genius, and charisma, she begins to rationalize his behavior. She falls for him. She is in love but a true sociopath cannot love anything except himself; and that is her tragedy.
It takes two to tango...and while you see the Joker does seem to tempt and manipulate her to get out of Arkham, she more than eagerly, lustily devours everything about him. She wanted to be with him and be like him so much she consented to her fall into the psychotic inducing bat of acid that literally paints her with the same brush. Poor Harley Quinn, you say? At first glance, the joke seems to be on her. Is she the poster girl for all women falling in love with the bad boy. It may seem so, right? Ever the doormat of her Puddin, she is oblivious to the fact that he barely tolerates her, never considering her well being. She is the ultimate prop for him proudly displaying herself as his property in what she believes is a super cute sign of a committed relationship with her alpha man.
But, let's look closer. As a modern, independent professional woman, a doctor no less, it would be hard to argue she did not consciously of her own will make the decision to go down that dark road. It would demean her, actually, as a psychiatrist to believe that the Joker could verbally manipulate her, brainwash or, in any way mix up her core character and values unless she was already willing to fall into temptation; unless she already harbored deep seated, dark desires. Inside, latent, she was always Harley Quinn. And, even after inevitably seeing her Puddin constantly tossing her aside, never caring for her , selfish in his own plans and eventually seeing her as a hindrance or pest at best, she ultimately accepts her responsibility in the whole affair.
She is no longer in love with him, the man. But she finally realizes she was always in love with the persona of the Joker, the clown prince, the sociopathic jester inside herself--her true character. And, as only a true narcissist can fall in love with herself, in the end she embodies her true identity, that of Harley Quinn.
Really, just love in modern times--women's liberation, feminism, mallet wielding sexy psychopaths in hot pants all wound up as one--what's not to love?
That's why I love her. I respect her story. I don't feel sorry for her. I don't find her story problematic. And I can't wait to get her....cheers.
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An interesting and thoughtful take on the character. I don't deny that she has both agency and power; it's her origin and *apparent* submission to the Joker that gives me the creeps sometimes.
RE: 'straightforward abusive narrative...' -- yes, I believe they could, but arguably this incarnation of Harley's story isn't over yet. Even if it was, one doesn't censor fiction just because the subject matter is distasteful or counter to contemporary mores; they can (within reason) write what they want. It's not as if real-life abusive relationships between all genders don't already exist.
Her plunge into the chemical vat was voluntary, but her forced electro-shock treatment in Arkham? Not so much. But we'll see where they go with it. Black Widow's origins and early stories were a product of her time and maybe wouldn't fly now, but her contemporary incarnation in the comics is an entertaining bad-ass.
From a cathartic point of view, Harley's unhinged violence and theatrical persona are entertaining as hell on film, so I enjoy the character as well.
I'm not a fan of the 'property of Joker' thing on her coat either. Thankfully I never see the back of the figure once she's posed and in the cabinet. Not seeing the back of the knees and the ugly way her head joins the neck is a blessing to. 
Whatever her comic origins I'd prefer to see the DCEU use her as more of an independent anti hero/villain in the style of Catwoman from this point on and less tied to the Joker or the rest of the squad. He did seem to care about her in SS which is also a problem when as a true psychopath he shouldn't have even a shred of empathy.
Hopefully she turns up in a solo Batman movie at some point.
Whatever her comic origins I'd prefer to see the DCEU use her as more of an independent anti hero/villain in the style of Catwoman from this point on and less tied to the Joker or the rest of the squad. He did seem to care about her in SS which is also a problem when as a true psychopath he shouldn't have even a shred of empathy.
Hopefully she turns up in a solo Batman movie at some point.
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Just in case anyone isn't happy with the boots, Cat Toys do a Harley gear set which comes with a nicer looking pair than HT's and they appear to have real laces. I don't know, however, if they'd be a straight swap:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-6-Harl...569640?hash=item5d727a3328:g:BTsAAOSwq~tZTMtd
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-6-Harl...569640?hash=item5d727a3328:g:BTsAAOSwq~tZTMtd
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Yes but are they actually better?
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From an aesthetic point of view yes, other than that I wouldn't know.
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Empathy and caring -- no. But if he views someone as a valuable posession or plaything he may go to great lengths to protect his 'property' while it suits his twisted priorities.
Nah I agree. They misportrayed that part of the relationship imo. Would have been better if Harley had something Joker needed or he wanted and that was the only real reason he came back for her. Then you have a reason for her to not want to join him and stay with the suicide squad.
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