1/6 Hot Toys - MMS400 D18 - Iron Man 2 - Mark V Diecast Figure

[MedievaL]

That's another thing. I wonder why the Mark 47 was fast tracked and out in 7-8 months whereas the Mark V is guesstimated at around 2 years.

To manage expectations. If they release it early people will cheer. If they release late people send hate mails/comments.

 

[MedievaL]

HT is a business. Why leave easy money on the table? Besides they are not wrong that new entrants to HT collecting mostly cannot afford the secondary price. All that outcry over this reissue is dumb. Anyway there's no way of knowing even if they had not reissue this, will they announce diecast mark 1 or whatever figure collectors want most or not.

If those collectors are so unhappy over HT maybe they should grow a backbone and cancel their POs or get rid of their whole collection?

 

[J85M]

Bingo! I’m new to collecting HT I started last year already have quite a few of the diecast armours. Managed to pick up a brand new diecast mark iv plus gantry for close to retail at Xmas which was super lucky eBay was quiet and the bidding didn’t go up much. But diecast mark v prices are nuts, so I had said to myself I won’t get the mark v, this reissue fixes that problem for me and a lot of newer collectors or those that missed out/couldn’t afford it at the time, it’s a win win or at least it should be. Then again I’ve never been bothered about reissues or releases of something I’ve already brought and I’m happy with, if more people can experience and appreciate something I’ve already got that I love then awesome!

 

[Azrael23]

Hot Toys is simply maximizing what they know is a sure thing regarding their golden goose that is the Iron Man property as oppose to
any purported consideration for new collectors. There's always going to be new collectors at any given time but that still doesn't mean
they should water down their brand, especially if not a substantial amount of
time has lapsed between a previous release.

 

[yacobschlomo]

I think everyone is well aware that Hot Toys is a business that's trying to do what's in their best interest (I probably would too). But as an individual collector, people should be free to voice some frustration when we have figures that went on preorder 2-3 years ago that are still not in our hands as they continue to reissue products and release variants/recolors. Everyone one of these releases causes some delay.

Manufacturing capabilities are not infinite. There are many more products hot toys is releasing and they are competing with more companies for manufacturing. Not all factories and painters are of the he same standards, which is why we're seeing more hit or miss on sculpts and some increased on QA issues.

If you're a new collector and/or missed out earlier then maybe this is great news for you. But if someone who's been buying previous releases and is waiting around 2-3 years for preorders or for an announcement of a certain figure to complete a product line - only too see reissues/variants jump the due sometimes, it can be a bit frustrating.

There's a lot of stuff I "missed out" on that I now want (hela, roadworn thor, yondu), but I'm not hoping for reissues because I don't want that to be the new standard operating model.

 

[Azrael23]

I think everyone is well aware that Hot Toys is a business that's trying to do what's in their best interest (I probably would too). But as an individual collector, people should be free to voice some frustration when we have figures that went on preorder 2-3 years ago that are still not in our hands as they continue to reissue products and release variants/recolors. Everyone one of these releases causes some delay.
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Exactly, and when they constantly pull this it does a disservice towards those customers.

 

[Red Wolf]

Hot Toys is simply maximizing what they know is a sure thing regarding their golden goose that is the Iron Man property as oppose to
any purported consideration for new collectors. There's always going to be new collectors at any given time but that still doesn't mean
they should water down their brand, especially if not a substantial amount of
time has lapsed between a previous release.

Exactly this. Hot Toys didn't sit down and make a list of what they could reissue for the "new collectors" to make them happy. Hence why they aren't reissuing unpopular figures even though they are long soldout. They watch the secondary market and see how they can make a quick buck. Watering down their brand is exactly my same thoughts. With the reissue of the Mark 47 and the demand they had for him, he is still available at Sideshow. I know he is soldout at other retailers, but I'm sure Sideshow is limiting quantities to them so they can make the most profit (there has been evidence of this from retailers; AE comes to mind).

I think everyone is well aware that Hot Toys is a business that's trying to do what's in their best interest (I probably would too). But as an individual collector, people should be free to voice some frustration when we have figures that went on preorder 2-3 years ago that are still not in our hands as they continue to reissue products and release variants/recolors. Everyone one of these releases causes some delay.

Manufacturing capabilities are not infinite. There are many more products hot toys is releasing and they are competing with more companies for manufacturing. Not all factories and painters are of the he same standards, which is why we're seeing more hit or miss on sculpts and some increased on QA issues.

If you're a new collector and/or missed out earlier then maybe this is great news for you. But if someone who's been buying previous releases and is waiting around 2-3 years for preorders or for an announcement of a certain figure to complete a product line - only too see reissues/variants jump the due sometimes, it can be a bit frustrating.

There's a lot of stuff I "missed out" on that I now want (hela, roadworn thor, yondu), but I'm not hoping for reissues because I don't want that to be the new standard operating model.

Yes, frustrating indeed. I feel Hot Toys is destroying their own market with the reissues. Yes they will attract those that are new or missed out, but at the same time annoy/frustrate those that have been by their side for quite some time. Another example of this is cellphone companies or Satellite Companies (directV/dish) they offer all these incentives for new customers that sign up, but for those that have been with them and been loyal they don't reap the benefits.

 

[nexus]

Are there any differences between this reissue and the previous version?

 

[Red Wolf]

Are there any differences between this reissue and the previous version?

Nothing official, but it does have the same MMS # (MMS400D18). Maybe slight updated paint like they did with the 47 (same MMS # as well).

I think if they updated these like they are doing with the DX19 then I"m all for that (DX12 was released in 2012 and target date for DX19 is 2022).

Mark V was released Q4, 2017 – Q1, 2018 and target reissue date is 2022 - barely four years.

 

[subzro]

Nothing official, but it does have the same MMS # (MMS400D18). Maybe slight updated paint like they did with the 47 (same MMS # as well).

I think if they updated these like they are doing with the DX19 then I"m all for that (DX12 was released in 2012 and target date for DX19 is 2022).

Mark V was released Q4, 2017 – Q1, 2018 and target reissue date is 2022 - barely four years.

Paint is usually different especially when it's years between releases. I have bought doubles of figures before that arrived at the same time and the paint on the HS or armor was slightly but noticeable different between the two when looked at up close.

 

[Red Wolf]

Paint is usually different especially when it's years between releases. I have bought doubles of figures before that arrived at the same time and the paint on the HS or armor was slightly but noticeable different between the two when looked at up close.

For sure, nothing is 100% the same. Justin noted that the paint was more vibrant on the 47 reissue. I on the other hand preferred the original releases paint because I feel it is closer to the movie. Again personal preference here.

 

[RulerOfAsgard]

For sure, nothing is 100% the same. Justin noted that the paint was more vibrant on the 47 reissue. I on the other hand preferred the original releases paint because I feel it is closer to the movie. Again personal preference here.

Be wary what those top reviewers say. Even if the figure was completely identical Justin would say there's differences to entice buyers and get sales for HT so he can get a discounted (or free) new figure from them.

 

[Red Wolf]

Be wary what those top reviewers say. Even if the figure was completely identical Justin would say there's differences to entice buyers and get sales for HT so he can get a discounted (or free) new figure from them.

Of course, with anything get as much information as possible then make up your own mind. Everyone has an agenda or biased whether it be a business decision or a natural pull towards certain characters/franchises.

 

[RulerOfAsgard]

At least we know this re-issue is a solid figure (minus the lack of battle damage). I'm still baffled by the mark 85 disaster, and not just the headsculpt.

 

[davejames]

Surprised this is still not up on Sideshow or any other US sites.

 

[nexus]

Nothing official, but it does have the same MMS # (MMS400D18). Maybe slight updated paint like they did with the 47 (same MMS # as well).

I think if they updated these like they are doing with the DX19 then I"m all for that (DX12 was released in 2012 and target date for DX19 is 2022).

Mark V was released Q4, 2017 – Q1, 2018 and target reissue date is 2022 - barely four years.

That's good. I was more concerned that it would be an improved upgrade.

Surprised this is still not up on Sideshow or any other US sites.

I saw it on KGHobby, so it'll probably show up on the US sites in the next couple of days.

 

[Red Wolf]

At least we know this re-issue is a solid figure (minus the lack of battle damage). I'm still baffled by the mark 85 disaster, and not just the headsculpt.

Curious what was a disaster in your opinion?

 

[RulerOfAsgard]

Curious what was a disaster in your opinion?

Shoulder gaps, skinny legs, inaccurate paint job, no light up feature on the light refocuser

 

[Red Wolf]

Shoulder gaps, skinny legs, inaccurate paint job, no light up feature on the light refocuser

I have to agree with all of that, but on the contrary that is pretty much true for all of their Iron man releases. Some will have a little more or less inaccuracies.

I personally like the headsculpt they released, but not how they switched it at the last moment. When they first put up the promo pictures I always thought this does not resemble how Tony looked in the movie (to me). Again my opinion only. In truth it doesn't matter given I never use any of my headsculpts for my colletibles, but the cost is factored in which sucks.

 

[RulerOfAsgard]

I have to agree with all of that, but on the contrary that is pretty much true for all of their Iron man releases. Some will have a little more or less inaccuracies.

I personally like the headsculpt they released, but not how they switched it at the last moment. When they first put up the promo pictures I always thought this does not resemble how Tony looked in the movie (to me). Again my opinion only. In truth it doesn't matter given I never use any of my headsculpts for my colletibles, but the cost is factored in which sucks.

You're right, most if the time I don't display the stark head either. I just think they could've done a whole lot better especially for an iron man figure. There are way too many changes from prototype to production and not for the better. If we're still buying figures and supporting HT in times like this we deserve better.