Hot Toys TDKR: 1/4th scale Batman [QS001] - Full Reveal & Specs

[a-dev]

Yeah I hope so to, you are right the Endo looks pretty dam good!

Its very cool but from a likeness standpoint its about as off as any of the Joker's you guys are talking about.

 

[Darkavatar]

Its very cool but from a likeness standpoint its about as off as any of the Joker's you guys are talking about.

TBH I wouldn't know, not that much of a Terminator fan . I think people were happy when they fixed the gap in the teeth or something.

Care to clarify what is so inaccurate about it?

 

[a-dev]

TBH I wouldn't know, not that much of a Terminator fan . I think people were happy when they fixed the gap in the teeth or something.

Care to clarify what is so inaccurate about it?

Well I'm one of the Terminator obsessives but even I'm not an endo-expert to be honest I'll be repeating in broadstrokes what the more knowledgable have said and I don't disagree with them.

Its supposedly based on the endoskeleton from the first film but in name only because thats the license that happened to be available (Enterbay having the T2 one). HT didn't care to examine that particular endoskeleton and pick out the details that set it apart from the T2 version. Instead evidence suggests they just copied a Sideshow piece even down to its mistakes including overly prominent teeth. And no, they didn't 'fix' a tooth gap. In fact there should be a gap between the 2 front teeth mimicking Arnie's dentition and there isn't one on the figure. And with the headsculpt theres other things like the jaw not being wide enough. Theres also innaccuracies about the limbs, particularly if its supposed to be a 'T1' endo - like the slightly different forearm and hand construction, and I think there a difference about the kneecaps.

So anyway there you go, all figures - to non-fans and casual fans - look amazing and perfect. But the obsessed will usually find something.

 

[Darkavatar]

Well I'm one of the Terminator obsessives but even I'm not an endo-expert to be honest I'll be repeating in broadstrokes what the more knowledgable have said and I don't disagree with them.

Its supposedly based on the endoskeleton from the first film but in name only because thats the license that happened to be available (Enterbay having the T2 one). HT didn't care to examine that particular endoskeleton and pick out the details that set it apart from the T2 version. Instead evidence suggests they just copied a Sideshow piece even down to its mistakes including overly prominent teeth. And no, they didn't 'fix' a tooth gap. In fact there should be a gap between the 2 front teeth mimicking Arnie's dentition and there isn't one on the figure. And with the headsculpt theres other things like the jaw not being wide enough. Theres also innaccuracies about the limbs, particularly if its supposed to be a 'T1' endo - like the slightly different forearm and hand construction, and I think there a difference about the kneecaps.

Wow thanks for the info, those inaccuracies are pretty important if they distinguish it from a T2 Endo one. I would be pretty pissed off if I was a fan of the Terminator stuff.

So anyway there you go, all figures - to non-fans and casual fans - look amazing and perfect. But the obsessed will usually find something.

Another good point and so true! For example, some people are obsessed with the Enterbay Batman clips being too big or in the wrong place and think the figure sucks because those reasons and needs to be modded. I am not really fan of the Batman begins suit so I had no idea what was wrong with it. I just think overall it looks like a nice figure and looks like Bale as Batman.

 

[a-dev]

Wow thanks for the info, those inaccuracies are pretty important if they distinguish it from a T2 Endo one. I would be pretty pissed off if I was a fan of the Terminator stuff.




Another good point and so true! For example, some people are obsessed with the Enterbay Batman clips being too big or in the wrong place and think the figure sucks because those reasons and needs to be modded. I am not really fan of the Batman begins suit so I had no idea what was wrong with it. I just think overall it looks like a nice figure and looks like Bale as Batman.

Its annoying insofar as its a missed opportunity to get a 'true' T1 endoskeleton. Everyone makes the T2 version. This one they call a T1 endo but its just a T2 one again basically and the headsculpt isn't even a perfect match for that. And I think its lazy to simply copy another company's work especially when actual movie referance is easy to access thanks to the internet.

Nevertheless it remains an incredible display piece. Got mine the other day and I can't stop marvelling at it. Engineering genius too.

 

[xpl0sive]

I'm a Terminator fan and the inaccuracies don't bother me at all to be honest. Granted, I am not a Terminator obsessive like some people.

I haven't seen the figure in person, but personally I think the inaccuracies are small and most people would probably only notice if comparing side by side with the real thing. Probably the most noticeable inaccuracy for me would be the teeth really. It still looks awesome and still looks like a Terminator endoskeleton at the end of the day.

It's different compared to a figure of a real person, as you have to match the likeness of that person's face which is much more difficult, and that sort of thing is much more noticeable if it's not accurate. Take this figure for example (QS001), it's very obvious that this does not look like Christan Bale, and that's what kills it for me the most (and for most people I would assume). I'm not obsessed with having the most accurate figure of a person down to the most intricate details, but if this thing at least looked like Christian Bale wearing the bat suit, and had a fairly accurate cowl I'd be interested.

 

[batfan08]

I'm a Terminator fan and the inaccuracies don't bother me at all to be honest. Granted, I am not a Terminator obsessive like some people.

I haven't seen the figure in person, but personally I think the inaccuracies are small and most people would probably only notice if comparing side by side with the real thing. Probably the most noticeable inaccuracy for me would be the teeth really. It still looks awesome and still looks like a Terminator endoskeleton at the end of the day.

It's different compared to a figure of a real person, as you have to match the likeness of that person's face which is much more difficult, and that sort of thing is much more noticeable if it's not accurate. Take this figure for example (QS001), it's very obvious that this does not look like Christan Bale, and that's what kills it for me the most (and for most people I would assume). I'm not obsessed with having the most accurate figure of a person down to the most intricate details, but if this thing at least looked like Christian Bale wearing the bat suit, and had a fairly accurate cowl I'd be interested.

That's my biggest issue with this release. As much as some of the other stuff bugs me, with the wealth of accessories and features, I'd be happy to overlook some of the minor things and pre-order this guy if they fixed the mouths, PERS, cowls, and Wayne head. If it doesn't look like him, why would I buy it?

 

[BatBrain]

That's my biggest issue with this release. As much as some of the other stuff bugs me, with the wealth of accessories and features, I'd be happy to overlook some of the minor things and pre-order this guy if they fixed the mouths, PERS, cowls, and Wayne head. If it doesn't look like him, why would I buy it?

That's why I'm hoping the delay is more than being related to 500 new Iron Man releases. I hope they have been in the process of some changes to the head and mouths. I have my doubts it will be anything significant but anything is possible.

 

[xpl0sive]

If it doesn't look like him, why would I buy it?

Exactly. Doesn't matter how detailed or how awesome the figure looks, if it doesn't look like the actor it's supposed to represent, then there's no point buying the thing.

That's why I'm hoping the delay is more than being related to 500 new Iron Man releases. I hope they have been in the process of some changes to the head and mouths. I have my doubts it will be anything significant but anything is possible.

You never know. The only thing that gives me the slightest bit of hope that this may actually turn out good is that their endoskeleton turned out pretty awesome, despite so many people complaining that it would turn out crap, but were actually really pleased with it once the in-hand photos showed up.

 

[a-dev]

You never know. The only thing that gives me the slightest bit of hope that this may actually turn out good is that their endoskeleton turned out pretty awesome, despite so many people complaining that it would turn out crap, but were actually really pleased with it once the in-hand photos showed up.

I don't think its perfect, I'm just a bit more easy going about it. The guys who complained the most haven't even posted since it started turning up in peoples hands because they know it will lead to flame wars. I expect their opinions are unchanged.

 

[BatBrain]

Exactly. Doesn't matter how detailed or how awesome the figure looks, if it doesn't look like the actor it's supposed to represent, then there's no point buying the thing.

Exactly. This is the concern. I hate to keep going back to it but this is why the EB Bats is so great. It's not the accessories or accuracy of the suit. You look at it and its friggin Christian Bale. We need to see more of that here.

 

[xpl0sive]

Yeah that figure amazes me everytime I see it.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

So anyway there you go, all figures - to non-fans and casual fans - look amazing and perfect. But the obsessed will usually find something.

Dude - that's a great post.

It sums up my SW OCD to a TEE.

Can I use it for a tag under my sig?

 

[a-dev]

Dude - that's a great post.

It sums up my SW OCD to a TEE.

Can I use it for a tag under my sig?

Okeydokey!

 

[Malgus]

Exactly. Doesn't matter how detailed or how awesome the figure looks, if it doesn't look like the actor it's supposed to represent, then there's no point buying the thing.



You never know. The only thing that gives me the slightest bit of hope that this may actually turn out good is that their endoskeleton turned out pretty awesome, despite so many people complaining that it would turn out crap, but were actually really pleased with it once the in-hand photos showed up.

The problem is you have lots of crazy people who no matter how great a sculpt is will declare"this looks nothing like ....." . I amazed when I see a RDJ head this looks at least 90 percent like the actor and someone makes a crazy statement like that.

 

[TotalDominAsian]

It's because we've seen hundreds of headsculpts now, and it's caused us to be more selective in what we choose to add to our collections. If a headsculpt is 90% accurate, no way in hell would I be satisfied enough to display him with the rest. It could ruin the lifelike effect of the entire display

 

[xpl0sive]

The problem is you have lots of crazy people who no matter how great a sculpt is will declare"this looks nothing like ....." . I amazed when I see a RDJ head this looks at least 90 percent like the actor and someone makes a crazy statement like that.

People see things differently I suppose. Some people may see it, some may not. Take the DX11 for example. Whilst I don't think the likeness is spot on, I definitely see some Ledger in the sculpt when viewed on an angle, but some people think it looks nothing like him.

You can also have a sculpt that looks very good and very lifelike, as in, it looks like a real person, but doesn't look like the actor. I think the cowl head sculpt on the QS001 looks quite detailed and realistic, I just don't think it looks like Christian Bale at all, and when you're paying that sort of money, it should look like Christian Bale, and not kind of like Christian Bale, but 100% Christian Bale, or damn close to it.

Also, if you're referring to the RDJ sculpt from the MK VII, then that doesn't look like RDJ in my opinion lol. The RDJ sculpt from the Battle Damaged MK VII with open helmet is spot on, same with the diecast MK 42. Great sculpt, but the regular MK VII sculpt is a really poor likeness of RDJ, and was my main reason for not buying that figure, as I wanted to display it with RDJ sculpt.

It's because we've seen hundreds of headsculpts now, and it's caused us to be more selective in what we choose to add to our collections. If a headsculpt is 90% accurate, no way in hell would I be satisfied enough to display him with the rest. It could ruin the lifelike effect of the entire display

This is an issue as well. Standards are much higher now. We've been treated to some crazy good likenesses, so when a figure comes along that misses the mark a bit, it's hard to accept this. The increase in prices doesn't help either.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Wow.. I was just about to say, "why no talk about Iron Man in here? lol)"

..& then I saw Malgus' post.

I'm saying it in every thread now - this forum needs an enema.

 

[HeubertMichael]

The bottomline here is simple:

HT should give both Kojun and Yulli -- their most overrated sculptors, who sculpted QS001 proto (as well as th RDJ headsculpts) and Heath Ledger Jokers respectively -- a break. I don't get why these 2 are so applauded while their sculpts are inconsistent at best, and HT's stable of less popular sculptors are dishing out quality portraits on a regular basis.

 

[chemspawn]

I think we should wait for the final product...Hottoys has no excuses if 1/4 bat will not be released as best as it is possible for a 500+ USD figure.