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This is to suggest improvements before the product hits the market.

The problem is, some suggestions or means of suggesting them are too personal.

PSed retouches of the figure for something like the hair gets into the personal tastes of the person doing the manipulation and people won't all agree on the end look.

Sending real photos of Arnie depicting the look you're interested in for HT to make the call from, that's more concrete because it's what really was, the only opinion is on the chosen style but the actual look was really there.

Even still, something like how his hair should be cut is subjective. We discussed yesterday that his hair changed looks many times over the course of T2. A lot of people remember the poster image style because that's been on VHS tapes, posters, DVD art, everywhere, but there are other looks from the film and HT's sculpt does replicate some of those fine as is.

Things that come down to personal preference really shouldn't be open game for pushing HT to do it, because others might be happy with it as is and your choices could ruin it for them. The fairest thing is to let the company dictate the look and either you like it and buy it or you don't.

Things like he doesn't have a black t-shirt like he clearly wore for the first part of the film, that's concrete, it's no opinion, it's fact and I support calling out for things like that. When details are missed that are factual and not personally influenced, I support the mentioning of it because it does mean a better item for everyone.

Now, some people might being doing PS images just for fun, and that's all cool, I've done it myself, but I get worried when people start talking about blasting this stuff off to HT or whoever because I often disagree with the choices.
 
The problem is, some suggestions or means of suggesting them are too personal.PSed retouches of the figure for something like the hair gets into the personal tastes of the person doing the manipulation and people won't all agree on the end look.
Sending real photos of Arnie depicting the look you're interested in for HT to make the call from, that's more concrete because it's what really was, the only opinion is on the chosen style but the actual look was really there.Even still, something like how his hair should be cut is subjective. We discussed yesterday that his hair changed looks many times over the course of T2. A lot of people remember the poster image style because that's been on VHS tapes, posters, DVD art, everywhere, but there are other looks from the film and HT's sculpt does replicate some of those fine as is.Things that come down to personal preference really shouldn't be open game for pushing HT to do it, because others might be happy with it as is and your choices could ruin it for them. The fairest thing is to let the company dictate the look and either you like it and buy it or you don't.Things like he doesn't have a black t-shirt like he clearly wore for the first part of the film, that's concrete, it's no opinion, it's fact and I support calling out for things like that. When details are missed that are factual and not personally influenced, I support the mentioning of it because it does mean a better item for everyone.Now, some people might being doing PS images just for fun, and that's all cool, I've done it myself, but I get worried when people start talking about blasting this stuff off to HT or whoever because I often disagree with the choices.

We didnt ask for your life story!:lol
 
Really? That is interesting.

Yeah the desert scenes were the first shot. Van Ling states in the cast and crew commentary that Edward Furlong had to have a hole dug for him beside the car as Arnie refills the tank due to his height changing, and most of his dialogue was replaced too due to his voice breaking. Certain scenes were left untouched like the 'Let's go! Let's go! Come on!' and his screams as the T-1000 nudges him with the truck. Arnie had just come off Kindergarten Cop to T2 so his hair was longer. Originally, Cameron wanted the length to be almost the same as T1, then hairstylist Peter Tothpal started trimming it more to blend it with Jeff Dawn's makeup for the Stage 4 facial appliances. Damn that T2 ultimate edition dvd was extensive. I know that film backwards, and to me this headsculpt is damn near flawless. I can't wait to nab it.
 
Yeah the desert scenes were the first shot. Van Ling states in the cast and crew commentary that Edward Furlong had to have a hole dug for him beside the car as Arnie refills the tank due to his height changing, and most of his dialogue was replaced too due to his voice breaking. Certain scenes were left untouched like the 'Let's go! Let's go! Come on!' and his screams as the T-1000 nudges him with the truck. Arnie had just come off Kindergarten Cop to T2 so his hair was longer. Originally, Cameron wanted the length to be almost the same as T1, then hairstylist Peter Tothpal started trimming it more to blend it with Jeff Dawn's makeup for the Stage 4 facial appliances. Damn that T2 ultimate edition dvd was extensive. I know that film backwards, and to me this headsculpt is damn near flawless. I can't wait to nab it.

That's some cool info. I really should watch the extras on my Skynet edition blu ray.

Agree re the h/s too.
 
I liked when they where talking about the scenes with Linda linda hamilton's twin sister in them. Especially the scene that was deleted from most versions where they open up the terminator's head as Linda opened a dummy and Arnold and Linda's sister followed the movements. The animatronics on that movie where so accurate the the actors it's unbelievable you'd never know!
 
The problem is, some suggestions or means of suggesting them are too personal.

PSed retouches of the figure for something like the hair gets into the personal tastes of the person doing the manipulation and people won't all agree on the end look.

Sending real photos of Arnie depicting the look you're interested in for HT to make the call from, that's more concrete because it's what really was, the only opinion is on the chosen style but the actual look was really there.

Even still, something like how his hair should be cut is subjective. We discussed yesterday that his hair changed looks many times over the course of T2. A lot of people remember the poster image style because that's been on VHS tapes, posters, DVD art, everywhere, but there are other looks from the film and HT's sculpt does replicate some of those fine as is.

Things that come down to personal preference really shouldn't be open game for pushing HT to do it, because others might be happy with it as is and your choices could ruin it for them. The fairest thing is to let the company dictate the look and either you like it and buy it or you don't.

Things like he doesn't have a black t-shirt like he clearly wore for the first part of the film, that's concrete, it's no opinion, it's fact and I support calling out for things like that. When details are missed that are factual and not personally influenced, I support the mentioning of it because it does mean a better item for everyone.

Now, some people might being doing PS images just for fun, and that's all cool, I've done it myself, but I get worried when people start talking about blasting this stuff off to HT or whoever because I often disagree with the choices.

:confused: Well, These mod, as you say, are personal. I know perfectly well that hot toys will do what they want

Another mod

 
I liked when they where talking about the scenes with Linda linda hamilton's twin sister in them. Especially the scene that was deleted from most versions where they open up the terminator's head as Linda opened a dummy and Arnold and Linda's sister followed the movements. The animatronics on that movie where so accurate the the actors it's unbelievable you'd never know!

Love that scene too. Came as a real shock that was how it was done when I listened to the commentary.
 
:confused: Well, These mod, as you say, are personal. I know perfectly well that hot toys will do what they want

They do listen to fan feedback though. There was a lot of chatter about the Marcus Wright heads not looking like Sam Worthington and HT redid them both. They didn't resculpt or anything, but they altered the paint apps on Two-Face after having photos submitted to them. The Alien was altered, not totally, but in some ways based on fan feedback. You never know just what they will or won't listen to.
 
because I have time off for being sick. I can not do anything but be here before doing mods



I think THIS IS ......more accurate :wacky
 
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"All right, everyone take five."

I couldn't resist. :D
 
Hot Toys just needs to personalize the arm and shoulder/neck sculpts like they have already done for Wolverine and now the T-800. As the female Hot Toys body stands now, the arms are too skinny and PVC pipe straight.

I've still got mine. I do think its an awesome figure and I'm not one to moan about joints but with this one it did get to me a little personally.

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The joints might be another reason hot toys would avoid a figure of her since I'm sure they know joints showing can put people off of their stuff and with Sarah from T2 theres not many options other than the jacket she puts on but that isn't to memorable.
I still think though Sarah deserves hot toys treatment.
 
I cant stand how sideshow decided to make sarahs head 1:3 scale and her body 1:6!:lol
 
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