Hot Toys Terminator Salvation?

[uscmhicks]

If hot toys is doing T4, than I'm sure to get a new Terminator. If I get any human figure, it'll be Connors, but that depends on my budget, since my priority is to get a machine before a human . But question though, after the release of these figures, and if they release a T-800 Endo, would it bring the value of my current T2 Endo down by much?

Its unlikely and even if it did it wouldn't be too much. It depends on how many differences or improvements they made.

 

[Wolf873]

Its unlikely and even if it did it wouldn't be too much. It depends on how many differences or improvements they made.

Thanks. Yeah, I wonder what can they improve on a already superb figure, perhaps a chrome paint job, or eyes articulation (unlikely though).

 

[a-dev]

Guys, guys, relax. Sorry for unintentionally making it sound like your current HT T800 endo is going to be obsolete soon.

My mistake there for suggesting more articulation. What I meant was more range of motion. Chalk it up to my limited English for using the wrong word to express what I really meant.

The current Endo is indeed amazing, it can do everything the Endo in the older movies can do. But that's really limited to those really robotic poses (same as the movies).

What I hope from HT is improving the Endo so that it can now move and pose more like a real person can, if possible as poseable as a typical HT TT body.

Limits in technology back then really limits what the Endo can do in the movies. It has always bugged me that Arnie or any other terminators can move like a human and has all the range of motion but when it comes to an Endo, the movement is really stiff, limited, and robotic.

Ahh. I knew you couldn't possibly be complaining about the amount of POA. 'Range' of motion makes more sense alright.

Still though, I think what you say about limits in technology when they made their animatronic endos probably applies just as much to making a poseable toy endo. The range of motion on the actual machinery of the endoskeletons was, and is always, going to be slightly more limited than a real person's capability I would imagine. When you're talking about, say, our own arm or leg 'articulation' - we can pull our forearms up very close to our upper arms and or calves very tight to our thighs because there is a lot of 'give' with squishy muscle and bones that are only joined by soft tissues - but a machine would be more limited because of the physical limitations imposed by pistons and solid steel etc - if I'm right, this translates to the toy aswell.

I think Terminator takes a bit of an imaginative leap there - yes theres a discrepancy between arnie's human movements and the endoskeletons machine movements but in reality if Arnie really did have a T-800 endoskeleton under his skin he would have very machine-like movement.

So as regards the HT endo - I don't think it could be improved in this area. A chrome paintjob that doesn't flake off would be nice though - can't see that being achieved though with all that articulation. I'm certainly not worried about my 2 endos becoming obsolete - if they could be improved I'd welcome it, I just can't see it.

 

[uscmhicks]

Thanks. Yeah, I wonder what can they improve on a already superb figure, perhaps a chrome paint job, or eyes articulation (unlikely though).

I don't think they will make another unless one takes some type of significant damage in the movie that could make a new figure.

Or maybe hot toys will rerelease the T-800 endo again .

 

[man_vs_machine]

All I know is i'm down for a John and absolutely ANY new terminators they come up with! SCC to me is an absolute joke and I just pretend it doesn't even exist! Bring on that T-600

 

[uscmhicks]

All I know is i'm down for a John and absolutely ANY new terminators they come up with! SCC to me is an absolute joke and I just pretend it doesn't even exist! Bring on that T-600

with a john connor figure , a batman figure and a custom bruce wayne figure on my shelf people are gonna start thinking I'm a Christian Bale entusiast.

 

[Wolf873]

All I know is i'm down for a John and absolutely ANY new terminators they come up with! SCC to me is an absolute joke and I just pretend it doesn't even exist! Bring on that T-600

I agree, and thank goodness SCC is not going to be counted as part of the Terminator story line in the upcoming movie.

I don't think they will make another unless one takes some type of significant damage in the movie that could make a new figure.

Or maybe hot toys will rerelease the T-800 endo again .

Hmm, possible, but recently I contacted them about it and they said they had no plans to, but who knows, they might have changed their minds about it.

 

[man_vs_machine]

with a john connor figure , a batman figure and a custom bruce wayne figure on my shelf people are gonna start thinking I'm a Christian Bale entusiast.

The truth comes out finally!!! LOL


And I couldn't care less about the value of the other HT endo's, i'd be more than happy to pick up a couple more T-800 endo's should they decide to re-release them. But if not I have one of each some i'm good

 

[-Super Hans-]

re-release the t-800 again hot toys put terminator salvation on the box, give it a new chrome paint job and wack a limited edition sticker on it. hell, id buy that

 

[a-dev]

Wow theres a lot of SSC hate in this thread. I thought it was generally well liked.

I consider it canon, far moreso than T3.

 

[man_vs_machine]

Wow theres a lot of SSC hate in this thread. I thought it was generally well liked.

I consider it canon, far moreso than T3.

What's not to hate? I consider it doo doo

 

[Riko]

It has always bugged me that Arnie or any other terminators can move like a human and has all the range of motion but when it comes to an Endo, the movement is really stiff, limited, and robotic.

it's a....sci-fi MOVIE! don't take it so serious

I dare wager that when the movie is release, we will see the T800 (or any of the machines) doing stuff we never though possible before.

What's happening here now is some of you guys felt that the T800 will not have any changes in the latest movie and that the filmmaker will be using the exact same model and puppet from the older movies for the current one.

That will never happen. All sane filmmakers, especially on a movie with such a budget, will surely redo the cgi models and puppets for this movie. The fact that the T800 is supposed to be the latest model chronologically doesn't matter in this prequel.

In the Star Wars prequel, we see a lot more advance stuff and tech (especially the lightsabers battle) that just doesn't really adds up when you compared to the old Trilogy. It's just Hollywood to make things look up to date even when it's a prequel.

wrong again, a lightsaber is a lightsaber and has always been the same lightsaber in the all of the 6 movies from the '70 to the '00!
Just like an endo-terminator will always be an endo-terminator from the first movie in the '80 to T4!

Personally, I'd be pissed (and I think all terminator fans) if they would make the Endo jump on rooftops and making him some sort of acrobate.
Bottom-line: the endo should stay the same as it always has been out of respect for the old movies, Respect the classics!
Sure you can make a CGI endo, wich they actually did in T3 in the opening, and wich was awsome!
Just look at the beginning here => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkCZ7j3gCo&feature=related
They did not change the looks or movement abilities of the Endo and still it looks cool!

Just like they made the lightsabers better in the new stars wars movies, doens't mean they have changed the whole thing just because they got CGI. I bet the star wars fans would be pissed if they changed something about the lightsabers.

So don't expect to see juming, armwrestling or fitnessing Endo T-800's in T4, if you find them robotic and stiff, you'll just have to accept that this was the whole idea and look they wanted to give it!
If they would make the Endo's lean and move like real humans it would look reaaally stupid and not only would that ruïn the movie but the entire franchise!

 

[a-dev]

What's not to hate? I consider it doo doo

Whats to hate? It was T3 that turned the franchise into a parody of itself. SSC is a more serious take on the franchise, far more in line with what cameron did on T1 and T2.

 

[uscmhicks]

Just like they made the lightsabers better in the new stars wars movies, doens't mean they have changed the whole thing just because they got CGI. I bet the star wars fans would be pissed if they changed something about the lightsabers.

I think he meant the whole double ended lightsaber thing ( if thats the correct term... ).

 

[Sachiel]

Compare the lightsaber Luke got in E4 to Anakin's in E3.

 

[CelticPredator]

Whats to hate? It was T3 that turned the franchise into a parody of itself. SSC is a more serious take on the franchise, far more in line with what cameron did on T1 and T2.

And it also fleshed out John and Sarah more so then Cameron did. Which makes the first two 10 times better IMO.

 

[man_vs_machine]

SCC is garbage and so is T3. Female Terminators are totally lame. I don't care what you say, Cameron would say it's all ^^^^e as well. Arnold and Franco were exactly what he had in mind for the terminators. Bad ass, body builder looking guys. Not some hot chick pretending to be a bad ass. SCC is like any other bad TV show out there now a days

 

[Kratos]

T-600 For me

That big Brute would kick ass

 

[Kratos]

SCC is garbage and so is T3. Female Terminators are totally lame. I don't care what you say, Cameron would say it's all ^^^^e as well. Arnold and Franco were exactly what he had in mind for the terminators. Bad ass, body builder looking guys. Not some hot chick pretending to be a bad ass. SCC is like any other bad TV show out there now a days

I agree Female Terminators are meh

 

[Cryoguns]

SCC is garbage and so is T3. Female Terminators are totally lame. I don't care what you say, Cameron would say it's all ^^^^e as well. Arnold and Franco were exactly what he had in mind for the terminators. Bad ass, body builder looking guys. Not some hot chick pretending to be a bad ass. SCC is like any other bad TV show out there now a days

Skynet's purpose for the Terminators was infiltration. That means all sorts of human builds, ethnicity, and yes...even gender depending on what the average human population consists of post-judgement day.