Hot Toys Terminator Salvation?

[a-dev]

No the endo couldn't be improved - just made different. Perhaps a minor head resculpt to give it the 'evil stare' like the endo head in the T2 main titles - upturn the eyes a bit.

As to SSC being the ruination of the franchise? I believe that honour goes to T3.

 

[Riko]

It's HT. They will not take the cheap way out and just basically reissue their T800 endo.

They will find a way to make a better one and with this movie being made in the 21st century, surely the CGI model or puppet model of the T800 will be updated maybe more detail and even more articulation.

don't understand, the T-800 is a FINISHED model (the one in the movie)
T-800 in T1, T2, T3, T4, T4343 will always stay and be the same T-800 model...

There is no such thing as an update for a T-800.
yes, there are other terminator models that look like the T-800 but they are something else and not called T-800.
T-600, T-720 (couldn't see it right in the picture posted somewhere above me)
Those might be made by hot toys, but are not updates of the T-800.
In fact the T-800 is the latest model and most articulated and most detailed terminator model.

so I still do not understand what you're saying, cause what EndIessRAlN says is right!

This is gonna rock! I doubt they will make more T800 endos. They never seem to remake anything from a previous series. But then again they did remake the Begins suit Batman from DK. It was a massive upgrade though. But looking back at the T800 endos. Those were perfect as is.

indeed!
the V1 begins didn't come near the real stuff...the V2 could only be better, and the final result is almost 100% movie accurate.

the same for the terminator endo from hot toys, this is almost 100% movie accurate! why would they remake it? maybe rerelease it, but no upgrade because there is no upgrade to do...Look at it, it's almost or even 100% movie accurate.

 

[Riko]

Perhaps a minor head resculpt to give it the 'evil stare' like the endo head in the T2 main titles

the endo's are the same

 

[The Mike]

If the BB suit wasn't in TDK we wouldn't have seen it redone by HT, I'm about 95% sure of that fact. If the T-800 shows up even at the end of Salvation, it'll give the option of them doing something else. Knowing HT though, it'll be a new product with some variance to the ones already put out.

 

[Riko]

If the BB suit wasn't in TDK we wouldn't have seen it redone by HT, I'm about 95% sure of that fact. If the T-800 shows up even at the end of Salvation, it'll give the option of them doing something else. Knowing HT though, it'll be a new product with some variance to the ones already put out.

okay, but what variance? maybe in matter of accessories, but the actually figure of the T800 itself, what can be changed on that?

 

[The Mike]

The variance on the BB suit was upgraded materials, new sculpt on Bathead. They could easily resculpt the facial features of the T-800. Chrome it. There are many different things they could do to put out one and not have it be technically a reissue. We don't know whats in the film, what if at the end the T-800 is presented as the latest in Terminator technology and it has chains around it or something.

While its not a definite, if the T-800 appears in the film its really just a wish from those who payed through the nose of one that it won't be re-released.

 

[a-dev]

okay, but what variance? maybe in matter of accessories, but the actually figure of the T800 itself, what can be changed on that?

As I said, if anything they could do a minor change and give him the evil eye stare - I know its the same endo - but with a more upturned glare. Not essential but if any change was to be made I'd like that to be it.

 

[FACEBOX]

Hopefully they will coat the endos in chrome paint this time around.

 

[noisetrigger]

This is the world of movie making. Not filmmaker in their right mind will still use the same T800 model/puppet from almost two decade ago even if it was the classic canon design.

My issue with the T800 in the earlier movies was that it moved like a machine while in Endo form but when it human form, it moved more like a human.

I believe in this movie, they will update the T800 endo to be more human like in their movements.

It's 2008. They will surely update the designs a little without straying to far from the original design.

It could be anything, maybe the T800 with CGI help can now do more things that the older models can't do. Maybe there will be more functions we never saw in the earlier movies.

Basically, HT will surely find a way to improved their Endo. I for one though it could used more articulation.

 

[Sabres21768]

seriously, but what can be improved on the T800 from hot toys???
it is to date, still the best looking figure of any collection.
the got every articulation you could wish, from all fingers, jaw to the toes ...
no seriously, what could be improved?

don't understand, the T-800 is a FINISHED model (the one in the movie)
T-800 in T1, T2, T3, T4, T4343 will always stay and be the same T-800 model...

There is no such thing as an update for a T-800.
yes, there are other terminator models that look like the T-800 but they are something else and not called T-800.
T-600, T-720 (couldn't see it right in the picture posted somewhere above me)
Those might be made by hot toys, but are not updates of the T-800.
In fact the T-800 is the latest model and most articulated and most detailed terminator model.

so I still do not understand what you're saying, cause what EndIessRAlN says is right!



indeed!
the V1 begins didn't come near the real stuff...the V2 could only be better, and the final result is almost 100% movie accurate.

the same for the terminator endo from hot toys, this is almost 100% movie accurate! why would they remake it? maybe rerelease it, but no upgrade because there is no upgrade to do...Look at it, it's almost or even 100% movie accurate.

the endo's are the same

okay, but what variance? maybe in matter of accessories, but the actually figure of the T800 itself, what can be changed on that?

 

[a-dev]

Basically, HT will surely find a way to improved their Endo. I for one though it could used more articulation.

While I understand the point you make in the rest of your post, you have to be joking with the last sentence - What possible added articulation could the HT endo have? Every finger and toe joint is articulated, the wrists bend this way and that, the ankles, the midsection, the shoulder blades - all expected articulation is present and accounted for plus some. The only thing that isn't articulated is the eyes and thats not feasible.

 

[EndIessRAlN]

don't understand, the T-800 is a FINISHED model (the one in the movie)
T-800 in T1, T2, T3, T4, T4343 will always stay and be the same T-800 model...

There is no such thing as an update for a T-800.
yes, there are other terminator models that look like the T-800 but they are something else and not called T-800.
T-600, T-720 (couldn't see it right in the picture posted somewhere above me)
Those might be made by hot toys, but are not updates of the T-800.
In fact the T-800 is the latest model and most articulated and most detailed terminator model.

so I still do not understand what you're saying, cause what EndIessRAlN says is right!



indeed!
the V1 begins didn't come near the real stuff...the V2 could only be better, and the final result is almost 100% movie accurate.

the same for the terminator endo from hot toys, this is almost 100% movie accurate! why would they remake it? maybe rerelease it, but no upgrade because there is no upgrade to do...Look at it, it's almost or even 100% movie accurate.

Thank you for agreeing. I just think about my collection and can't think of another figure from Hot toys that can give people a middle finger (or a middle toe as a matter of fact.)

As I said, if anything they could do a minor change and give him the evil eye stare - I know its the same endo - but with a more upturned glare. Not essential but if any change was to be made I'd like that to be it.

I am all for the Evil Eye stare.

Hopefully they will coat the endos in chrome paint this time around.

I'm all for Chrome too. That would be freakin' sick!

 

[Riko]

While I understand the point you make in the rest of your post, you have to be joking with the last sentence - What possible added articulation could the HT endo have? Every finger and toe joint is articulated, the wrists bend this way and that, the ankles, the midsection, the shoulder blades - all expected articulation is present and accounted for plus some. The only thing that isn't articulated is the eyes and thats not feasible.

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Basically, HT will surely find a way to improved their Endo. I for one though it could used more articulation.

how the hell can this be more articulated?????????

what you expect this plastic figure to do withouth breaking? be able to BEND OVER?

They got the whole neck moving, the jaw moves (only hot toys figure that can) EACH finger has 4 articulations! EACH toe moves! His ankles turn, his wrists turn, his forearm turn round just like the underlegs (again the ONLY hot toys figure that can do those turns), the upper body turns (limited). You can pose him already in any iconic pose from the movies!
You even got the pistons to work and the eyes to glow red!

In one topic you called me a nitpicker for my comment of HT Iron Man being too lean than the seen in the movie.
But you are really the one nitpicking saying the HT endo has to have more articulation

It seems you haven't discovered yet the full range of articulation that your HT endoskeleton can do....

 

[Riko]

The variance on the BB suit was upgraded materials, new sculpt on Bathead. They could easily resculpt the facial features of the T-800. Chrome it. There are many different things they could do to put out one and not have it be technically a reissue. We don't know whats in the film, what if at the end the T-800 is presented as the latest in Terminator technology and it has chains around it or something.

While its not a definite, if the T-800 appears in the film its really just a wish from those who payed through the nose of one that it won't be re-released.

the T-800 is already the latest terminator endoskeleton...in T1 - T3 the send the most advanced endo....
T4 is all about the beginning of the terminators, the T600 is the brut bulky terminator that evolved to the T 800 in the end. So they can not upgrade the T 800.

Only thing that hot toys can bring out new are the more primitive endo's. The T 800 has had its time.
And will a chrome job be sufficient enough to reissue a T 800 endo? cause that is all there is to be "updated" about it.

 

[noisetrigger]

Guys, guys, relax. Sorry for unintentionally making it sound like your current HT T800 endo is going to be obsolete soon.

My mistake there for suggesting more articulation. What I meant was more range of motion. Chalk it up to my limited English for using the wrong word to express what I really meant.

The current Endo is indeed amazing, it can do everything the Endo in the older movies can do. But that's really limited to those really robotic poses (same as the movies).

What I hope from HT is improving the Endo so that it can now move and pose more like a real person can, if possible as poseable as a typical HT TT body.

Limits in technology back then really limits what the Endo can do in the movies. It has always bugged me that Arnie or any other terminators can move like a human and has all the range of motion but when it comes to an Endo, the movement is really stiff, limited, and robotic.

I dare wager that when the movie is release, we will see the T800 (or any of the machines) doing stuff we never though possible before.

What's happening here now is some of you guys felt that the T800 will not have any changes in the latest movie and that the filmmaker will be using the exact same model and puppet from the older movies for the current one.

That will never happen. All sane filmmakers, especially on a movie with such a budget, will surely redo the cgi models and puppets for this movie. The fact that the T800 is supposed to be the latest model chronologically doesn't matter in this prequel.

In the Star Wars prequel, we see a lot more advance stuff and tech (especially the lightsabers battle) that just doesn't really adds up when you compared to the old Trilogy. It's just Hollywood to make things look up to date even when it's a prequel.

It will be unfair to say that I am nitpicking because I was merely suggesting improvement to the current Endo. Its been two years since its released. Why is it so hard to believe that HT can improve it? They always raises the bar and they will do it again with the Endo.

Whether it's the articulation, range of motion, or the paint, we don't know, but just know that HT won't be doing a simple reissue of the T800 Endo for this movie.

As for Iron Man, he looks correct to me when compared with the DVD. Yes, he looks leaner when compared with the promo shots posted but those promo shots looks squashed honestly. I don't remember Iron Man having such a big waist in the DVD.

Just to prove my point, I will take screencaps of the DVD later, the second disc has really great reference material.

 

[Agen]

The new HT newsletter today confirms they DO have the Terminator: Salvation license!

"After the Judgment day, what will you get? - We are quite sure that you'll get some "Fine, delicate toys"! Yes, we mean it! We're excited to announce that we've been granted a world-wide license of Terminator: Salvation (aka T4)! We are aiming to bring you tons of collectible throughout 2009! With years of experience of producing fully poseable 1/6th scale robots and film-accurate 1/6th scale human figurines, it's not hard to tell what we are planning to do with this license. STICK with hottoys.com.hk to preview our first collectible announce in end of this month."

I guess we'll see more HT T-800s then which means the prices on eBay will drop. I'm now kinda hoping the film will be crap so I wont be tempted to buy the figs and spend mooooooore moolah. If I do buy 'em I guess I'll go for a T-600 endo, T-600 with BD flesh and maybe John Connor.

Great news! already cancel my predator order(still keep order dutch) waiting for hot toys Terminator salvation

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Yea people are really getting into this topic a bit too much. Chill. It's all friendly discussion here. Maybe a T-888 from the Sarah Connor Chronicles? That would be sweet. Though it has nothing to do with Salvation.

 

[FACEBOX]

Ugg.. S.C.C.
Please don't remind me of that. And people thought T3 was bad!?

 

[nicky]

Ugg.. S.C.C.
Please don't remind me of that. And people thought T3 was bad!?

SCC isnt even canon in my book as is it's not even set in the same universe nor is it one of the movies or has any of the same actors.

 

[Wolf873]

If hot toys is doing T4, than I'm sure to get a new Terminator. If I get any human figure, it'll be Connors, but that depends on my budget, since my priority is to get a machine before a human . But question though, after the release of these figures, and if they release a T-800 Endo, would it bring the value of my current T2 Endo down by much?