Hot Toys The Dark Knight Rises: Bat-Pod Specs & Pics

[Viper2005]

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i thought they were fixing the BAT at the ending?

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That thing must be full of gamma radiation from the explosion! How did it not get vaporized?

 

[xtina_slayer]

I was Sooo hoping this would spin like it does in the movie. But who was I kidding.

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

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That thing must be full of gamma radiation from the explosion! How did it not get vaporized?

I was wrong as Mr Ecko pointed,

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They were working on another prototype

 

[Lejuan]

I was Sooo hoping this would spin like it does in the movie. But who was I kidding.

Is it just me, or is that wheel rotation thing complete and utter bollocks?

 

[Ash Housewares]

It looks cool but it is impossible.

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

Is it just me, or is that wheel rotation thing complete and utter bollocks?

The explanation that each wheel has its own motor makes it plausible (but yeah, the guns should hinder the spin)

 

[pr3dato8]

Is it just me, or is that wheel rotation thing complete and utter bollocks?

That's my favourite part about the pod, absolutely love when it spins

But in terms of reality Im not sure just how possible it is. As said before the guns would definitely make the front turning inefficient (but still possible).

What's more concerning is that:

- the wires that go from the engine and brakes to the wheels would get twisted when the wheels would spin
- due to friction of the wheels against the road (and their shape) the energy required to rotate them will probably be greater than the energy required to rotate the centre piece. So what could end up happening is you spinning around while the wheels remain motionless

 

[spindrift]

Uhh we want plausible and reality in the world of Batman?????????? Even in Nolan's world there are alot of reality smashing things happening...rotating wheels I can accept...

 

[Lejuan]

Even fantasy worlds have rules though... this particular gimmick stretched my suspension of disbelief even more than the idea that the Bat could easily be concealed by a simple bush camo tarp. But regardless of the real-world physics, screen-accurate rotating wheels would have been pretty cool.

 

[Username]

Is it just me, or is that wheel rotation thing complete and utter bollocks?

Total and utter bollocks.
The wheels are each braced on one side from the main body. There is no central pivot point. There are ways it could have worked, but not if the pod is an integral original part of the Tumbler. If it was a standalone vehicle it could have worked with only a couple of minor modifications.
But as they designed it to plausibly detach from the front end of the Tumbler(And i certainly believe it in the world of Batman. Kudos to them for pulling that off), it would never work.

It looks cool but it is impossible.

Yep.
Exactly.

Even fantasy worlds have rules though... this particular gimmick stretched my suspension of disbelief even more than the idea that the Bat could easily be concealed by a simple bush camo tarp. But regardless of the real-world physics, screen-accurate rotating wheels would have been pretty cool.

If the sides of the wheels had half-round rubber "hubcaps" cowling the guns, it would have rolled.
In the meantime, i usually dismiss those scenes as "cool, but wouldn't work in the real world"(Like most of the things in these movies!)

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

Uhh we want plausible and reality in the world of Batman?????????? Even in Nolan's world there are alot of reality smashing things happening...rotating wheels I can accept...

Nope, we just want to have something to talk about

 

[pr3dato8]

Total and utter bollocks.
The wheels are each braced on one side from the main body. There is no central pivot point.

I considered that to be one of the problems but I don't see how. Just because the pivot point is at the side doesn't mean it won't be able to rotate, it just wouldn't rotate as nicely as in the movie

Besides I looked at the pictures of it again and the wheel is connected at the side but that bit is then connected to the centre, right in front of the engine. That could be a plausible pivot point which would make the wheel rotate evenly.

Again as said before the main concern is the wiring but most importantly friction. There is nothing holding the centre piece down so it will end up rotating instead of the wheels.

 

[Username]

I considered that to be one of the problems but I don't see how. Just because the pivot point is at the side doesn't mean it won't be able to rotate, it just wouldn't rotate as nicely as in the movie

I just meant that as well as the guns hitting the ground, the mounting bar that holds each wheel would spark on the ground too.

Besides I looked at the pictures of it again and the wheel is connected at the side but that bit is then connected to the centre, right in front of the engine. That could be a plausible pivot point which would make the wheel rotate evenly.

Sure. It does have that. I was not trying to nit-pick and poke at the flaws. But i am a pattern maker and i generally look to the details. It doesn't ruin it for me. I was just making an observation as to the real world possibility of this thing working.

Again as said before the main concern is the wiring but most importantly friction. There is nothing holding the centre piece down so it will end up rotating instead of the wheels.

Yeah. Just one of many flaws.
But it still looks cool onscreen.

 

[pr3dato8]

Yeah. Just one of many flaws.
But it still looks cool onscreen.

Yeah, tbh Nolan has made his trilogy as close to reality as possible, including the vehicles, and I do love it when the pod spins

 

[Username]

Yeah, tbh Nolan has made his trilogy as close to reality as possible, including the vehicles, and I do love it when the pod spins

Yep.
To be fair, it's *so* close to how Batman would be in "real life", that the little comic book moments actually make it better rather than take away from it.
A little sidestep from reality to remind you this is fantasy, and show you it's purely a comic book movie, no matter how realistic it seems from time to time.

 

[pr3dato8]

Yep.
To be fair, it's *so* close to how Batman would be in "real life", that the little comic book moments actually make it better rather than take away from it.
A little sidestep from reality to remind you this is fantasy, and show you it's purely a comic book movie, no matter how realistic it seems from time to time.

I know exactly what you mean, the fantasy bits mixed with reality makes the movie so much better, more alive. But I'm really glad that Nolan made the antagonists without supernatural sides.

 

[Username]

I know exactly what you mean, the fantasy bits mixed with reality makes the movie so much better, more alive. But I'm really glad that Nolan made the antagonists without supernatural sides.

Exactly.
I did worry for a second when

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Ras Al Gul turned up claiming he was immortal, but i was glad to see it to be a dream...

 

[pr3dato8]

Exactly.
I did worry for a second when

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Ras Al Gul turned up claiming he was immortal, but i was glad to see it to be a dream...

Ahaha I was gonna mention that in the previous post but yeah as you said it was explained.

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Was it meant to be a dream? I assumed it was a hallucination/moment of clarity. Same thing I suppose

 

[Username]

I'd say moment of clarity.
Like when you try to solve a problem yourself, and then someone walks into the room and you mention what your problem is and(Without them actually saying anything), you work out the solution on your own without any help.
That's what i figured that was.
When i watched the movie the first time my first thought

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When bruce got the rope on and started climbing was "why in the blue blazes does HE need a rope???" Bruce isn't afraid to die...

 

[pr3dato8]

I'd say moment of clarity.
Like when you try to solve a problem yourself, and then someone walks into the room and you mention what your problem is and(Without them actually saying anything), you work out the solution on your own without any help.
That's what i figured that was.
When i watched the movie the first time my first thought

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When bruce got the rope on and started climbing was "why in the blue blazes does HE need a rope???" Bruce isn't afraid to die...

Yeah, or when you cant find something and ask someone else whether they've seen and that makes you remember.

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As for the rope bit: he was not afraid to die but I guess he was afraid that he wouldnt be able to save people of Gotham. Besides not being afraid of death and purposefully decreasing your chance of survival are different things

This is turning into a movie thread