1/6 Hot Toys-The Terminator (T1)-MMS 238-T-800-(Battle Damaged Version) 1/6 Scale Figure

[a-dev]

Also, because T1 is immune to criticism.

Indeed. As much as T2 is, I agree.

 

[DiFabio]

Well P. buys T2 figures for the same reason we all might buy T3 figures. The T-800 as a concept is really cool, the toys are cool, for the sake of owning these cool toys he will ''pretend'' they come from a film he likes just as much as the original. I can understand that.

I think a battle damaged T3 Arnold would be really cool as a figure, but then I ask myself, would I really pay $300+ for a character in a movie that I don't even LIKE? I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure you would either.

What P. is doing here is almost hypocritical though. He clearly has a disdain for T2, yet there he is, buying away. Not just one for that matter, but multiples from "kiddie" scenes he supposedly doesn't even like that much. He likes the concept of the T-800? Well, he has them with the oh-so superior T1 product he has. It'd be like me buying a Hot Toys TDKR Bane doll even though I loathe and despise that interpretation. It makes no sense. Hell, check him out in the Robocop thread giving CAIN MKII a good old ribbing and trolling. CAIN MKII is quite enthusiastic about his Robocop. The film, the accuracy, the customs. CAIN is basically to Robocop what P. seems to be for Terminator. It seemed to annoy the hell out of CAIN when people did something as simple as . . . turn the NECA ED-209's gun arm turrents the wrong way? Sound familiar?

P. is always putting people and other things down. Ripping people's pics (recently, a great macro detail shot of the DX 13's finger, where he then disses the collector because, god forbid, he took a shot where Hot Toys forgot to put metal paint on a millimeter section of hand), making snide comments. He's quite literally a troll. So yeah, the hypocrisy is pretty bad here. To make matters worse, he then goes off on CAIN for doing the same thing he does! It makes no sense. P. makes no sense. Remember all that crying he did when the DX 13 came out about the sculpt and the blood or whatever? "Oh, woe is me, I bought tons of the DX 10 and now it's all for naught". Then the ****er goes out and buys a **** ton . . . from a movie he has a low regard for! It's madness!

I know you see it too. P. is quite simply a nutter. I used to think it was a language barrier, but no, he's a troll. I don't throw that card around too often, but that's what he does. THAT'S ALL HE DOES!

But in the defence of us T2 fans, a lot of our postings are reactionary to stuff some T1 fans feel the need to say about T2 in order to big-up T1 (as Leon911 referred to). Personally I've never put down T1 in order to say why I like T2, I wouldn't do that because I love T1 aswell. Far as I'm concerned the enemy is T3, T4 and whatever crap they're trying to make now.

Agreed. I'm really sick of this always rearing it's ugly head in a discussion. This T1 vs. T2 thing makes no sense to me, especially in these figure threads where we got multiple options of both. When I'm in this thread, I wanna talk about the greatness of T1. When I'm in the DX 13 or other T2 threads, I'm interested in T2. This whole "one is better than the other" is obnoxious.

Look at Kara above. Kara's posts are usually in jest. I can tell he's goofing around. Others like P. though? Nah, they're instigating horseshit. Notice, it's never fans like you, Leon911, or I bringing up this ****, it's always the "T1ers" (which is just absurd when you think about it, especially for those of us that love both). I don't know where this type of fan came from, but I don't see why it always needs to be brought up or why there isn't a place for both. It drives me nuts.

 

[LeoNatan]

and whatever crap they're trying to make now.

 

[franpincho]

What's a decent price for a technoir Arnie this days? I keep seeing pics of it and it seems tho me that it hasn't aged bad at all...


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[BadMuthaDude]

Well P. buys T2 figures for the same reason we all might buy T3 figures. The T-800 as a concept is really cool, the toys are cool, for the sake of owning these cool toys he will ''pretend'' they come from a film he likes just as much as the original. I can understand that.

Except he buys at least half a dozen to recreate as many of those terrible, inferior scenes as possible. People don't do that with things they hate.

 

[karamazov80]

True, they do that to things they love to hate.

 

[DiFabio]

If I could rep that, I would.

 

[P.]

What P. is doing here is almost hypocritical though. He clearly has a disdain for T2, yet there he is, buying away. Not just one for that matter, but multiples from "kiddie" scenes he supposedly doesn't even like that much.

i love toys!

bringing "T2 VS T1" to T1 threads by T2 fans every week doesn't make sense to me, too

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I keep seeing pics of it and it seems tho me that it hasn't aged bad at all...

The figure's only a couple years old.

They've tightened up the newer head sculpts to an extent - sure, but MMS136 is a recent enough release - & in the top 10 HT releases, period.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah its a pretty must have figure. I don't think they're going to remake it any time soon like they 'remade' MMS117.

 

[Leon 911]

Yeah its a pretty must have figure. I don't think they're going to remake it any time soon like they 'remade' MMS117.

Hopefully it wil come up again in 2 odd years... At least i am hoping it does!

 

[a-dev]

Did you not get MMS136 or would you just like to see new sculpts etc?

I of course wouldn't mind if they did another - it'd be an opportunity to get the 'missing link' headsculpt for one thing:

 

[Leon 911]

Did you not get MMS136 or would you just like to see new sculpts etc?

I of course wouldn't mind if they did another - it'd be an opportunity to get the 'missing link' headsculpt for one thing:

Well i dont have tech noir. I spent a fortune on this hobby but haven't bought one yet as i am hoping they would do one soon. Or at least in next 2 yrs. also some of the custom stuff is sucking a lot of my funds. Its like a massive blow with each figure so some plans are off track.

Btw who is that hot chick... In black dress in your photobucket! ...

 

[P.]

Btw who is that hot chick... In black dress in your photobucket! ...

https://www.fansshare.com/gallery/p...addario-the-mtv-movie-awards-june/?displaying

Photo : Alexandra Daddario The Mtv Movie Awards June

 

[momaw]

My way to look at it is... T1 and T2 are like your children you can't choose one over the other. You can say one is better than another in certain areas, but overall ... nope...
T3 and T4 are like your neighbors children, they dont exist unless they make a noise.

I have to disagree. T3 and T4 are still your/our kids. Unfortunately they came out ginger so we try to pretend they didn't happen.

 

[DiFabio]

it'd be an opportunity to get the 'missing link' headsculpt for one thing:

Yeah, I've wanted that since the MMS 136 pics went up. I like the eye wound one we got, but man, I'd love the clean, burned off eye brows look with the shot gun.


What Hot Toys should do is make a '84 Sarah Connor as a Con exclusive (you know, the pink tie dye shirt, blue jeans) and pack in that brow less headsculpt with her, ala T2 Connor/T-1000. I mean, why not? Past exclusives have been the likes of Joe Colton, Angelica, Gordon, and other secondary characters that nobody really seems to care about. Why not make a Sarah and throw in the headsculpt above as an extra incentive to Terminator fans?

 

[karamazov80]

The figure's only a couple years old.

They've tightened up the newer head sculpts to an extent - sure, but MMS136 is a recent enough release - & in the top 10 HT releases, period.

Not only that, I would argue that HT has regressed in some ways since that figure was released. At the time, they were nearly at the peak of their game, with the exception of head size and more limited body options. The clothing and accessories hasn't improved, the head sculpts now aren't providing us with consistently better likenesses, but we get "softer" sculpts and often inferior paintwork, such as the goopy blood on DX-13 (that I fully expect with this figure, as well).

As for a con exclusive, modern Reese would probably be the better choice, since he would sell better than T1 Sarah. But I would take either. I don't think the one missing head sculpt would be released, as I suspect it's just too obscure for all but a very small minority of Terminator collectors to care about. I would actually prefer a newer long haired sculpt, made in a bigger size like more contemporary HT heads, even though I don't really even feel a need for that. I still love my MMS 136. In fact, it's still my favorite Hot Toys figure period.

 

[DiFabio]

As for a con exclusive, modern Reese would probably be the better choice, since he would sell better than T1 Sarah. But I would take either. I don't think the one missing head sculpt would be released, as I suspect it's just too obscure for all but a very small minority of Terminator collectors to care about. I would actually prefer a newer long haired sculpt, made in a bigger size like more contemporary HT heads, even though I don't really even feel a need for that. I still love my MMS 136. In fact, it's still my favorite Hot Toys figure period.

See, I was thinking Reese would just be a standard, regular figure (like this) and Sarah could be the "limited" exclusive. I think Reese would sell a lot better. Depending on how good the sculpt and look of the figure, maybe just as good as this Terminator.

And I don't think the missing eye brows head sculpt would be too obscure. I mean, look at the exclusive T2 Sarah/T-1000. The T-1000 donut head that they included couldn't even fit on her body.

Why couldn't they do the same thing with T1 Sarah as an exclusive? It's not like she would come with any worthwhile accessories.

 

[The Skull]

Not only that, I would argue that HT has regressed in some ways since that figure was released. At the time, they were nearly at the peak of their game, with the exception of head size and more limited body options. The clothing and accessories hasn't improved, the head sculpts now aren't providing us with consistently better likenesses, but we get "softer" sculpts and often inferior paintwork, such as the goopy blood on DX-13 (that I fully expect with this figure, as well).

As for a con exclusive, modern Reese would probably be the better choice, since he would sell better than T1 Sarah. But I would take either. I don't think the one missing head sculpt would be released, as I suspect it's just too obscure for all but a very small minority of Terminator collectors to care about. I would actually prefer a newer long haired sculpt, made in a bigger size like more contemporary HT heads, even though I don't really even feel a need for that. I still love my MMS 136. In fact, it's still my favorite Hot Toys figure period.

I can agree with everything you said here except on the paint work, that is an area where I believe hot toys have improved over the years, the blood job on the dx13 may not be there best work to date but overall paint work on the newest figures is pretty stellar, like Barney ross v2 compared to v1, or last stand wolverine vs origins, in most cases paint is now better.

As far as the MMS136 goes paint on that is perfectly fine, no real need to improve. I also have to say that the MMS136 is also my favorite hot toys figure of all time as well, I have a large number of awesome figures too so that is a huge victory.

 

[karamazov80]

I wouldn't complain if it happened, I just don't see it. The T-1000 sculpt was one of the more iconic looks of that character from the film, and really jumped out on the shelf, which is why I figured HT did it (when I had that figure, that was the sculpt I displayed him with). I doubt that specific T-800 head would be used by many collectors, and it probably wouldn't even be recognizable by the vast majority of more casual fans of the film. But I could be wrong.