1/6 Hot Toys-The Terminator (T1)-MMS 238-T-800-(Battle Damaged Version) 1/6 Scale Figure

[DiFabio]

and yet T2 was just leftovers from T1 softened for teenager auditory...

How?

I thought the THX sound system for T2 greatly surpassed T1. In fact, didn't it win best sound at the Academy Awards? What prestigious awards did T1 win? What does that have to do with a young person's hearing? Don't younger people have better hearing than older people?

 

[a-dev]

Excellent. I have officially returned to 2 weeks ago. Time travel is possible

 

[DiFabio]

Which type of time travel though, T1 (without sphere) or T2 (with sphere) or T3 (with funky glass, disco dome)

 

[karamazov80]

Well, yes, it did reduce the Alien to a very killable insect-type creature, but the story was plausible and the overall film was just excellent so I excuse it for that personally. It didn't necessarily contradict anything in Alien or even the deleted cocoon scene from Alien. And even Ridley seems to consider it canon, wasn't there a ''building better worlds'' reference in Prometheus? Which originated in Aliens, not Alien, unless I'm mistaken.

After (unfortunately) sitting through Prometheus, Ridley's opinion of things at this point in time doesn't mean much to me. It's like retroactively asking George Lucas which films are canon and which aren't.

 

[DiFabio]

I actually can't think of a single director's opinion on previous works that I take into account. They all start to say stupid **** about what they've done in the end.

 

[sithlord13]

Prometheus was probably the biggest disappointment cinematically I have experienced in recent times.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

Excellent. I have officially returned to 2 weeks ago. Time travel is possible

Here we go again........

 

[P.]

How?

with its cheerful and heroic story about friends, families and tons of guns of course. a bright positive story, even has an exploding helicopter ))

 

[DiFabio]

Oh, you meant audience not auditory.

Well in that case, your still

People could say The Terminator is for teenagers or girls with it's cheesy love story of two star crossed lovers (something T2 doesn't have to rely on). Terminator has a heroic story, tons of guns AND an exploding Tanker truck. You're fooling yourself if you don't think the original relies on running, guns, car chases and action. Besides, T2 has the same blood running through it's veins. Almost beat for beat is similar to the first Terminator. Anyone that has a problem with T2's structure, setting and tone should have a problem with T1 as well.

Got a problem with John Connor? Look at that whining waitress that is Sarah Connor in the first film. Got a problem with the T-1000 as a villain? Look at Arnold in the first film. Don't like the chase sequence with the SWAT van and Helicopter truck, or the Steel Mill finale at the end? Tell me about the truck, motorcycle and the factory in T1.

- T1 arrivals = T2 arrivals
- T-800 = T-1000
- Death of Matt and Ginger = Death of the Voights
- Tech Noir = Galleria
- LA chase = Canal tunnel chase
- Surgery Scene = Garage
- Sarah Connor goes through a character arc = John Connor goes through a character arc
- Truck, motorcycle, Tanker freeway chase = SWAT van, truck, helicopter, Liquid Nitrogen truck
- Factory = Steel Mill
- Sad ending (Death of Reese) = Sad ending (Death of Uncle Bob)


The second film is a bigger and badder version of the first. What makes the first so great can be found in the second. It takes the concept and action and times it by 10. The crux of the "problem" with T2 seems to be (and only be), "omg, the Terminator is teh good guy!" With that I say, look at this guy,

 

[a-dev]

I actually love that repetition between the two films. Makes them a lovely, neat duology.

 

[DiFabio]

Yup.

That's why I'm always confused when these hardcore T1 fellers are always coming in trying to take a dump on T2. It's like, really? What you love about the first is RIGHT there in the second, plus more. Unfortunately, I think the main thing is this sad idea of "teh terminator doesn't kill da peoplez with his guns". That's it.

 

[a-dev]

Well, minds will not be changed on this matter, them or ours. I say abandon topic. It goes nowhere and just causes forum stress.

What are your plans with this figure? Are you done with the multiples game?

 

[SilentSurfer]

Did Tamiya ever make a 1/6 Kawasaki KZ1000?

 

[DiFabio]

What are your plans with this figure? Are you done with the multiples game?

I ordered two. One from Sideshow and another from Alterego for $210. I figure one Police Shootout look and one Tanker Truck damage is sufficient and enough for me. So far, I've bought two of every Hot Toys T-800 figure. 2 MMS of the 117, 2 of the DX 10s, and 2 of the DX 13. So I basically have everything covered without going in too deep. To date, I've just taken advantage of all the alternate looks these Terminator figures come with.

The only exception is the Tech Noir MMS 136. I own three of those because at the time I was HYPED about it and there wasn't really anything to buy around that time. No regrets though. But yeah, two of this guy and I'm good. The only other thing I can think of would be a nice, updated 1/6 Endoskeleton and then I'll be content with my 1/6 collection as far as the T-800 is concerned. I love the look of them all lined up in a sort of "stages" display. Between the T1 T-800, T2 T-800 and the T-1000, the stages/looks are pretty much dead even at 5-6 looks of each character.

 

[P.]

blah blah blah

you may write another thousand of words, T2 will still remain a kids movie whose fans always try to persuade themselves in something )

That's why I'm always confused when these hardcore T1 fellers are always coming in trying to take a dump on T2.

actually it's T2 fans coming into all T1 threads saying that T2 is kewl, too )
like right here

 

[sithlord13]

What did you guys think of the Sarah Connor chronicles ? I loved it


Ok there was much too much time travel.

 

[Leon 911]

you may write another thousand of words, T2 will still remain a kids movie whose fans always try to persuade themselves in something )
actually it's T2 fans coming into all T1 threads saying that T2 is kewl, too )
like right here

Phew! ... One movie doesn't need to be bad to make another look good and vice versa... However am sure thats behind comprehension for you.? . But again... Carry on... Every word from you now is getting predictable.

My way to look at it is... T1 and T2 are like your children you can't choose one over the other. You can say one is better than another in certain areas, but overall ... nope...
T3 and T4 are like your neighbors children, they dont exist unless they make a noise..
(Saying it on a lighter note or for all i know my neighbor will be out my door with an assault rifle)

 

[DiFabio]

I think it's funny how P. has spent a few thousand on figures from a movie he doesn't even seem to like.

"Kids movie", "inferior", "crap", then there he is with all those DX 10 and DX 13 figures. What a maroon.

 

[a-dev]

Well P. buys T2 figures for the same reason we all might buy T3 figures. The T-800 as a concept is really cool, the toys are cool, for the sake of owning these cool toys he will ''pretend'' they come from a film he likes just as much as the original. I can understand that.

But in the defence of us T2 fans, a lot of our postings are reactionary to stuff some T1 fans feel the need to say about T2 in order to big-up T1 (as Leon911 referred to). Personally I've never put down T1 in order to say why I like T2, I wouldn't do that because I love T1 aswell. Far as I'm concerned the enemy is T3, T4 and whatever crap they're trying to make now.

 

[karamazov80]

Personally I've never put down T1 in order to say why I like T2, I wouldn't do that because I love T1 aswell.

Also, because T1 is immune to criticism.