1/6 Hot Toys - TMS 008 - The Mandalorian: Bounty Hunter Droid IG-11 Collectible Figure

[LoveMinusZero]

I agree and disagree with this. I agree it's a bad choice to turn stormtroopers into a joke. As noted, they were never a joke in the OT (well maybe the SE with the head bash joke) and deadly to anyone not wearing plot armour. I disagree Filoni turned battle droids into a joke, George did that right from the start.



I get you don't like Filoni, but he neither wrote or directed this episode or the other one with a Stromtrooper joke (according to IMDB). You seem to want to have your cake and eat it giving credit to Favreau for this episode using SBD's (because Filoni apparently ruined BD's) but then say the joke demeaning stormtroopers in the same ep is attributable to Filoni?

It's not that I don't like Filoni, I don't hate him at all, it's his style of storytelling that obviously has a huge influence on the show that is bothersome to me, or at least worrisome. He may not have written the episodes, but he is right there along with Favreau, he developed the show with him, you see him in like every on set pic and you can feel the influence his style on the show. A few of the episode literally feel like a live action Clone Wars/Rebels episode.

As for the Battle Droids, I wasn't giving credit to Favreau for using the Super Battle Droids, I simply asked if anyone else noticed that he didn't use B1 Battle Droids, and I believe there's a pretty obvious reason as to why. In the Clone Wars, Filoni drove them into the ground as absolute non-threat jokes. Every single episode they are in, they are treated as such. That's well over 100 episodes. And yes, I doubt anyone would deny Lucas started this mess in his prequels, yet it was never to that extent and it was taken to the extreme by Filoni. I do believe Lucas created the Supers in AOTC because he had mistakenly established the B1's as no threat to the Jedi in TPM, but then he doubled down in ROTS and did slapstick comedy and baby voices with both versions of the droids. Filoni could have course corrected in the show, giving the droids a little bit of menace back, but he didn't, he pushed it to such an extreme it can never be undone. Oddly enough Filoni also had to try and create new droids, because of the established non-threat of the B1s by making the Commando Droids, similar to how Lucas had to create the Supers.

The original intent of the Battle Droids was to show droids were rigid, un-creative thinkers and could not match humans when it came to tactics and battle improvisation. That was from Lucas himself, he just did a poor job of it and my argument was that the Mandalorian's IG-11 droid shows this same intent without making the droid look like a moronic non-threat. He can be amusing, you see that he does not think like the humans, yet is very much still a threat. IG-11 is what the Battle Droids could have/should have been. The second part of my argument was simply that making jokes, in universe, at the expense of the Stormtroopers is the going down the road towards ridiculous non-threats as was done to the Battle Droids. Whether or not he wrote those episodes, he and Favreau are working very closely on this show, and that certainly feels like Filoni's influence.

I can have my cake and eat it too, as I can enjoy what I believe Favreau and Filoni are doing right, and be annoyed or worried about certain pit-falls or mistakes that I can also see.

Sorry for the long winded response lol

 

[momaw]

That's fair enough, but I do think despite their bumbling, Filoni also showed the B1's were still effective when used right (like any tool). Individually they were dumb but as a collective they were effective. As small teams or individuals that's where the more assassin type droids were more effective (which were also via Lucas from Grievous's elite guard or variation of). Don't get me wrong, I think battle droids were mishandled in all iterations (as they are doing now with Stormtroopers).

Grievous was Filoni's crime in my opinion (although it's hard to know how much of that was at Lucas's direction). He started out in season one relatively dangerous but kept failing in new and stupid ways as the series progressed. Gendy is the only one to have done Grievous right (including Lucas).

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Grievous was Filoni's crime in my opinion (although it's hard to know how much of that was at Lucas's direction). He started out in season one relatively dangerous but kept failing in new and stupid ways as the series progressed. Gendy is the only one to have done Grievous right (including Lucas).

I agree with this completely. The Micro series was the only time Grievous was an actual threat, intimidating and competent. The standard droids in the Micro series were also well used for the most part, as they were just portrayed as soulless droid soldiers and barely spoke at all if I remember right. A lot of creators have a real difficult time making a villain a real threat and yet have them lose, especially on a weekly series like Clone Wars. What was done to Grievous was a huge mistake and Lucas was the biggest culprit having made him such a poor villain in the film.

 

[momaw]

Totally. I was so hyped for Grievous following the Gendy micro series and then I saw RotS and was like "WTF happened to him?"

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Totally. I was so hyped for Grievous following the Gendy micro series and then I saw RotS and was like "WTF happened to him?"

Lol exactly, same thing for me. I was like, this is not the same guy...

In my headcanon, he'll always be the Genndy version.

 

[dukefett]

As time has gone on I have come to assume that Kenobis line about stormtroopers being so accurate is intended to let us guess that the Death Star escape was a set up. They miss deliberately- despite being great shots.
It later became a joke and was used way too much. They are meant to elite troops after all.
As momaw said plot armour is of course indestructible.

Oh and I hope we see more ig series droids

There's no guessing that it was a setup for them to escape, there's several lines in the movie referencing it.

 

[Username]

As time has gone on I have come to assume that Kenobis line about stormtroopers being so accurate is intended to let us guess that the Death Star escape was a set up. They miss deliberately- despite being great shots.
It later became a joke and was used way too much. They are meant to elite troops after all.
As momaw said plot armour is of course indestructible.

Oh and I hope we see more ig series droids

In the old Xbox 360 game Star Wars Battlefront there was a masterful detail where(When playing as a storm trooper), and you reloaded your weapon. The first five or so shots from your blaster always hit the mark but, when the tibanna gas was running down in your clip, each subsequent shot got progressively wider and wider of the targetting reticle.
I always though that this was the true reason they kept missing(In situations where they were supposed to be trying to hit the rebels, lol).

 

[Rbeato]

In the old Xbox 360 game Star Wars Battlefront there was a masterful detail where(When playing as a storm trooper), and you reloaded your weapon. The first five or so shots from your blaster always hit the mark but, when the tibanna gas was running down in your clip, each subsequent shot got progressively wider and wider of the targetting reticle.
I always though that this was the true reason they kept missing(In situations where they were supposed to be trying to hit the rebels, lol).

Hmm interesting. Maybe that shaken spray paint can sound meant it was low on gas? All this speculating when in actuality it was just a scene written to joke about their aim but fun to think of reasons why they suck. Your explanation makes a lot of sense

 

[sithlord13]

There's no guessing that it was a setup for them to escape, there's several lines in the movie referencing it.

Yes. I know. But they’re after they escape. I meant that it was an early clue. So that some people might realise before. Foreshadowing If you like.
Leia of course clearly states it was too easy. Of course as a child I didn’t consider at all.

 

[Mike86]

I think I’ll still get this figure. The IG droid design is cool looking and I don’t have Sideshow’s IG-88.

 

[Sassafras]

I think I?ll still get this figure. The IG droid design is cool looking and I don?t have Sideshow?s IG-88.

Had been tryin' to talk myself out of it but esp. after episode 8 - nah. I'm already seeing a shelf of Mando, heavy gunner, Cara, and IG in my head $$$$$.

Annnnnddd I figure with the success of show, Favreau & co. are busy outdoing themselves for season 2. Way back if I had *invested* in original Iron Man/SW stuff I'd be rich Anyway tho, I could see myself down the road kicking myself for not getting Season 1 figs, which, like some of the MCU stuff, is now forever out of reach $$$$$.

Or, at least, I could never pay 800-1000$ for a CW Falcon (glad I got him at retail). Over 1000$ for a NIB diecast IM VI.

 

[DarkChocobi]

Nurse droid POed.

Bumped thread.

 

[jedijim3002]

Do you think they will come out with a deluxe IG-11 with baby bag and tea tray?


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[Asta]

Do you think they will come out with a deluxe IG-11 with baby bag and tea tray?

It's a good possibility since it wouldn't completely negate the first version, because baby bag IG-11 isn't wearing his bandoliers.



I'm sure HT would want to get as much use out of the IG body as possible.

 

[Rbeato]

Kinda makes me want to hold off on ordering this one for a few months now just to be sure

 

[Sassafras]

Do you think they will come out with a deluxe IG-11 with baby bag and tea tray?


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I figure I can make or source something like that. Polymer clay or whatever. Monkey Depot etc. for the bag.

 

[jedijim3002]

I went ahead and ordered one. Need to have the nanny next to the mando.


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[dukefett]

I enjoyed this character, but given the limited screen time and episodes, I don't plan on picking him up.

 

[Rbeato]

I enjoyed this character, but given the limited screen time and episodes, I don't plan on picking him up.

That?s understandable. For me...his speederbike scene was enough lol. Plus he could be versatile. Put him next to Boba & Vader and act like he?s IG-88 in ESB.