Hot Toys - X-Men Days of Future Past?

[moose]

Exactly. GoTG might as well be the most obscure comic out there and they are building them up to be on par with the Avengers. The film is untested and Hot Toys is making the while team? The freeze out is real and there's no doubt in my mind at this point. All I can say is, screw you Marvel, I hope GoTG fails big time because I don't care about any of those characters.

I think the issue is with marvel hot toys has a very strong relationship with marvel and that is nit the case with fox. I think the have choosen to focus on the marvel movies as they felt that they have a lot of hype around them and thus they would be the bigger sellers.

They have always neglected the x men movies and this one is no different only this time the movie proving to be quite popular. In any event they only real plan on making on figure and we know who that is so they might not be in as big a rush as they are for the upcomming GOG.

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[murdomac]

Personally I can't see any of these representations selling 3 or 4 thousand units. In regards to HT's choices of what characters to produce, I'd say the vast majority make sense. Really the only recent release I can think of that was out of left field is Tonto, since the movie seems to have been a failure. My guess is that they have a ton of properties that will out perform any characters from this franchise.

Seriously? You honestly think that a Hot Toys Micheal Fassbender Magneto would't sell 3000 units? They sold that many Dastuns: who? exactley and Babydoll figures from a film you won't find anywhere in the top 100 grossing films, various video game related figs that while nice figures must have even less 'exposure' than the X-Men.

The figures would sell all right, no doubt about it.

 

[Khev]

I think the issue is with marvel hot toys has a very strong relationship with marvel and that is nit the case with fox.

I think the total shutout of all merchandising save for Minimates is pretty glaring and points to something far greater than HT not having a strong relationship with Fox. Where are the SSC PF's or Hasbro figures? SSC has already previewed TWO GotG PF's and Hasbro and Lego have a ton of GotG figures and playsets on the way. This is much bigger than HT. I can't see how it's anything other than a full-on veto by Disney.

 

[greygoose]

Will we ever see a Fassneto figure?

 

[The Buffinator]

Only need one figure from this film.. Mystique!.. kicking a**, since the 70s

Seeing the preview of the GotG Gamora figure makes one think that Hot Toys could deliver an excellent 1/6 Mystique. Now if only they were interested in doing so. What with Jennifer Lawrence's popularity right now, this should be a slam dunk....

 

[moose]

I think the total shutout of all merchandising save for Minimates is pretty glaring and points to something far greater than HT not having a strong relationship with Fox. Where are the SSC PF's or Hasbro figures? SSC has already previewed TWO GotG PF's and Hasbro and Lego have a ton of GotG figures and playsets on the way. This is much bigger than HT. I can't see how it's anything other than a full-on veto by Disney.

A delays does not really mean they are not doing it the wolverenine movie was released in july the figure was announced in september . I wish when they do these interviews somebody would ask them. And be frank he is such a popular character they would be fools to pass that up as an unlicensed version will surely come out.

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[RaZaTrOn]

This idea of a shutout is laughable, it's making a lot of people seem like they are wearing a tin foil hat. Considering Tom Brevoort has taken to him personal tumblr to address this ridiculous rumours you'd have thought people might calm down.

Hot Toys probably isn't interested in doing the DOFP line because they aren't that interesting... sure there are a few figures that would be interesting. Who here would truly want a long haired walking Xavier in a suit? Or the poor looking Beast in a jumper?

Granted Magneto and Mystique would look cool but they are bad guys, Hot Toys has a bad rep with making bad guys and besides two figures wouldn't really suffice the hunger, people would complain (shocking right?).

What would be interesting? Hover chair Patrick Stewart, Future Wolverine, Bishop, Iced up Iceman. That look interesting... but that's not the focus of the franchise anymore so why would they make figures.

I'll leave you with this.

 

[Invictus Sol]

You don't think they could sell a couple thousand future Wolverines? It would be a easy sell. Best looking version of Logan in the movies so far. I think a Fass Magneto would do well also. Closest version to the comics as far as looks go and people love them some Fass.

I was assuming that it went without saying that Wolverine is the only possible exception (plus number we were talking was 3-4k, not 2k), since there's already been 3 releases (but as kara mentions, last 2 do not seem to be doing gangbusters).

Seriously? You honestly think that a Hot Toys Micheal Fassbender Magneto would't sell 3000 units? They sold that many Dastuns: who? exactley and Babydoll figures from a film you won't find anywhere in the top 100 grossing films, various video game related figs that while nice figures must have even less 'exposure' than the X-Men.

The figures would sell all right, no doubt about it.

Maybe Fassbender but I'm not 100% sure, to be honest. As a life-long X-Men fan, I don't find even one of Singer's designs to be definitive and especially not when it comes to Magneto (same goes for Colossus, Iceman, Beast, etc., IMO, all very boring, derivative designs).

This idea of a shutout is laughable, it's making a lot of people seem like they are wearing a tin foil hat. Considering Tom Brevoort has taken to him personal tumblr to address this ridiculous rumours you'd have thought people might calm down.

Hot Toys probably isn't interested in doing the DOFP line because they aren't that interesting... sure there are a few figures that would be interesting. Who here would truly want a long haired walking Xavier in a suit? Or the poor looking Beast in a jumper?

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Yep, I think a lot of it has to do with it being a deep cast of characters but all with boring, samey, costume designs. Reminds me of what Howard said about why they wouldn't touch Star Trek.

 

[youbastards]

All I can say is, screw you Marvel, I hope GoTG fails big time because I don't care about any of those characters.

 

[karamazov80]

The Star Trek shutout is real fellas. So PFs, no Hot Toys figures, no Hasbro toys, etc.

 

[Khev]

The Star Trek shutout is real fellas. So PFs, no Hot Toys figures, no Hasbro toys, etc.

What does "Star Trek" shutout mean? Are you referring to a lack of Abrams Trek merchandise?

 

[Invictus Sol]

He's making a 'correlation does not imply causation' joke in regards to Star Trek/DOFP. Just because there's no merchandise doesn't mean the property has been 'frozen out'. In the case of Star Trek, HT didn't care how well it did at the box office. They only have so many slots available to produce stuff and didn't want to bother with ST since a) Howard is not a fan of the property and b) boring, samey costume design. My guess is they feel the same way about DOFP.

 

[Khev]

And Howard owns Sideshow, Hasbro, and Lego as well? Powerful guy!

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Maybe Fassbender but I'm not 100% sure, to be honest. As a life-long X-Men fan, I don't find even one of Singer's designs to be definitive and especially not when it comes to Magneto (same goes for Colossus, Iceman, Beast, etc., IMO, all very boring, derivative designs).

Yep, I think a lot of it has to do with it being a deep cast of characters but all with boring, samey, costume designs. Reminds me of what Howard said about why they wouldn't touch Star Trek.

In before the inevitable Avengers conversation kicks off.

I 100% agree, I would love a representation of X-Men but the movie characters (bar a couple) haven't been definitive. Yes the Marvel Studio's film, The Avengers had 3 Hot Toys produced which are just guys in suits (Coulson, Banner and Fury) BUT these were after the core team who had interesting comic book derived costumes, Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Black Widow.

So whilst an MS property did get 'boring' looking characters it was as a consequence of it's success, you can't really start a line with boring looking characters.

The core X-Men team of DOFP was a walking Xavier with hair, a human Beast and a bone clawed Logan. That was the core team, compare that to GotG, GotG comes out on top on design and source material adherence, that's why they are being made. They will make the money.

 

[moose]

I am not as concerned with this bit of issue as I am disappointed Howard had mentioned that they would showcase the professor x they made for first class when this movie hit . Well it is here and nothing and no communication at all . I worried they will do tjis with other upcomming fox movies namely the Fanastic Four.

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[RaZaTrOn]

And Howard owns Sideshow, Hasbro, and Lego as well? Powerful guy!

Not sure if I'm correct here so apologies if I read this post wrong.

I believe Hasbro never owned the Star Trek Reboot merchandise license, Playmates produced figures for the first film and they ended up in Bargain Bins for a £1. Makes business sense that an Into Darkness line was never explored. Can't speak for Sideshow and Lego but I'd assume the majority just aren't interested in Star Trek figures, at least enough to make it a profitable venture.

 

[Khev]

I believe Khev is talking about X-Men

Yep! Something is fishy with the X-Men. I have a hard time believing that Marvel's flagship superhero team (prior to 2012) just "isn't marketable" to kids or adults. No way. Every other Marvel/DC superhero franchise gets merchandising, even dreary and dark stuff like TDK and MOS. Something's up and it apparently began with X-Men: First Class. IIRC that film still has yet to see a tie-in product of any kind as well (short of Minimates.)

 

[Josette]

Haha, I'd deleted my post 'cause I wasn't sure, Khev - it was my guess you were talking about X-Men.

It does seem that with so many companies not bothering with anything X-Men movie related that it points towards a possible shutout. If it were just Hot Toys it would be one thing, but it seems to be across the board.

ETA: I didn't think too much about the lack of XFC stuff at the time, given that it didn't do all *that* well, in comparison to other X films (understandable, since it was coming off X3 word of mouth, as well as Origins)....but with this film....it seemed more odd.

 

[Wah]

this whole thing sucks. the shut out, real or not, no ht figs, no ssc products, the whole shebang. especially for collectors who love the movie, just a damn shame. it may or may not make sense business wise, but it sure doesnt change the fact it's a huge middle finger to fans and supporters of the movie.

 

[Invictus Sol]

And Howard owns Sideshow, Hasbro, and Lego as well? Powerful guy!

Could be wrong, but I don't recall seeing really any toy merchandise for Star Trek, nor SSC stuff like PFs and whatnot (mind you, I wasn't looking, either). So assuming my assumption is correct and it's because there really wasn't much available from SSC and Hasbro, couldn't the same thing be true here (i.e., no-one is interested in producing these representations)?

Yep! Something is fishy with the X-Men. I have a hard time believing that Marvel's flagship superhero team (prior to 2012) just "isn't marketable" to kids or adults. No way. Every other Marvel/DC superhero franchise gets merchandising, even dreary and dark stuff like TDK and MOS. Something's up and it apparently began with X-Men: First Class. IIRC that film still has yet to see a tie-in product of any kind as well (short of Minimates.)

But if that's the case, why wouldn't Sony also be 'frozen out' w/ASM2? Doesn't make sense to me to freeze out the competition unless it's going to be applied consistently to both Fox and Sony. ASM2 at least had the benefit of having (IMO) the definitive Spider-Man costume representation, even if HT looks to have messed it up.