Hot Toys, you’re going to put yourself out of business!

[Hamanu]

Your point? It's entirely relative. Look how many ****tards here create threads to ***** about the NRD Sideshow Collectibles now charges despite having contributed repeatedly to the problem of preordering and canceling when the item's ready to ship.

My point? Seems a trivial thing for a major company to use in their flagship store, especially that high an amount. And its not about *********gery with canceled orders, not for them. Its about getting a loan.

Retailers, yes, HT yes if its not a high amount, bu this is different.

 

[robbiethepainter]

If that is the case, and they are in need of a loan, maybe they aren't making as much off the figures as everyone is saying.

 

[thenammagazine]

My point? Seems a trivial thing for a major company to use in their flagship store, especially that high an amount. And its not about *********gery with canceled orders, not for them. Its about getting a loan.

Retailers, yes, HT yes if its not a high amount, bu this is different.

So then you're illinformed or ignorant. I've no doubt HotToys uses that store much the same way Sideshow uses their website. Which means, if they're requiring deposits, they're expecting people to pay for what they order. If HotToys were needing loans, there's no way they'd be buying up licenses left and right and turning out as much product as they are right now.

 

[TheFiend]

Your point? It's entirely relative. Look how many ****tards here create threads to ***** about the NRD Sideshow Collectibles now charges despite having contributed repeatedly to the problem of preordering and canceling when the item's ready to ship.

Right on. Man, that **** gets on my nerves
You constantly see people(usually the same ones) who PO,cancel,PO,cancel. They PO just to PO. Just to put the list of things in their POing on their sig. That's why we have NRD. I can't think of one thing I ever cancelled on.

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[Hamanu]

So then you're illinformed or ignorant. I've no doubt HotToys uses that store much the same way Sideshow uses their website. Which means, if they're requiring deposits, they're expecting people to pay for what they order. If HotToys were needing loans, there's no way they'd be buying up licenses left and right and turning out as much product as they are right now.

I forgot you're the trigger happy type when it comes to name calling instead of a reasonable argument.

Allow me to rephrase it so you might understand what I mean. NRD is fine. Sideshow, retailers etc. should charge it to make sure people don't just PO on the fly.

What this guy was saying is that HT's own store is charging $1000 KH or $130 US that they lock for a year. And you bet that's way below their manufacturing cost. So yes, they're taking a freaking loan.

A phone company in my country, owned by Deutsche Telekom (that's t-mobile for you yanks) did the same when the iphone was out. They're making billions every year and still they charged customers who wanted an iphone a "safety" deposit which they kept for the duration of the contract and then gave it back 2 years later with no interest.

Why do they do this? Well, luckily, I'm not as ignorant as you might think. My gf works for a big corporation and she told me why. Because they can take all that ****load of cash and give it to the bank to play on the "overnight lending" market where the interest rates are astronomical. And no, private individuals can't join this party. But companies that have a million+ in cash can. And they do. So, after they've collected $130 on a dozen different figures that won't be out in a year they might just have enough to have the money work for them. Rinse, repeat.

Not saying that's why they're doing it, but I wouldn't be surprised.

And a manufacturer asking for 2/3 retail for a year in advance is no fair NRD.

 

[thenammagazine]

I forgot you're the trigger happy type when it comes to name calling instead of a reasonable argument.

Allow me to rephrase it so you might understand what I mean. NRD is fine. Sideshow, retailers etc. should charge it to make sure people don't just PO on the fly.

What this guy was saying is that HT's own store is charging $1000 KH or $130 US that they lock for a year. And you bet that's way below their manufacturing cost. So yes, they're taking a freaking loan.

A phone company in my country, owned by Deutsche Telekom (that's t-mobile for you yanks) did the same when the iphone was out. They're making billions every year and still they charged customers who wanted an iphone a "safety" deposit which they kept for the duration of the contract and then gave it back 2 years later with no interest.

Why do they do this? Well, luckily, I'm not as ignorant as you might think. My gf works for a big corporation and she told me why. Because they can take all that ****load of cash and give it to the bank to play on the "overnight lending" market where the interest rates are astronomical. And no, private individuals can't join this party. But companies that have a million+ in cash can. And they do. So, after they've collected $130 on a dozen different figures that won't be out in a year they might just have enough to have the money work for them. Rinse, repeat.

Not saying that's why they're doing it, but I wouldn't be surprised.

And a manufacturer asking for 2/3 retail for a year in advance is no fair NRD.

If you're bent about having to pay a deposit for a figure, you probably can't afford it and probably shouldn't buy it in the first place.

 

[Hamanu]

If you're bent about having to pay a deposit for a figure, you probably can't afford it and probably shouldn't buy it in the first place.

That's the conclusion you've drawn from my post? Oh well, arguing with you is like

 

[thenammagazine]

That's the conclusion you've drawn from my post? Oh well, arguing with you is like

Clearly, because you're too blinded by a failed sense of self entitlement to understand rational thinking and cause-and-effect business practices.

But you go ahead spewing ignorance about the best 1:6 company needing... "loans."

 

[Voorhees27]

If that is the case, and they are in need of a loan, maybe they aren't making as much off the figures as everyone is saying.

Exactly. Close thread. NRD = getting rid of the kiddies bragging about how much stuff they have on preorder but cancel anyway.

 

[Lejuan]

...the best 1:6 company ...

At the end of the day, they are the best, with daylight second. While I don't consider some current releases as being great value for money in comparison to their past releases, they still bring out a better product for around the same money as their high-end competitors. Whoever they are.

 

[Niceman]

Hot Toys do make a great product. The prices are skyrocketing, and NRDs should have a time limit. I understand paying one a few months in advance, but not 6,7,13 months? That's not fair.

 

[Niceman]

Big Chief Studios does the 1:6 Dr. Who and they are around $240 USA dollars. And although they are fun collectibles, they aren't up to par as far as realistic quality as Hot Toys.

So if those are $240, Hot Toys to me are worth much more as far as quality.

The only thing they are doing differently is offering a limited edition version out of 250 that's autographed by the actors thats $270 USA dollars, but I really don't want HTs to start doing that. Gets too gimmicky.

I have Big Chief's Doctor right here and he's pretty darn close to HT quality. Considering this is their first ever release, I'm hopeful. Mine cost me $245 with postage from England, but you can get them in the US for under $200.

 

[Niceman]

i think they are nice collectibles, but is this really better sculpting & clothing design than Hot Toys? Idk, maybe some people think so and that totally cool. Personally I think Black Widow & Catwoman are far better.

The Doctor looks much better than Amy. I have concerns about her. Her face looks fat. I don't recall saying "better." I said pretty darn close.

 

[Niceman]

LoL

Yah the Doctor looks fine. Im more just trying to put it into perspective that yah HTs are expensive, but no more that other collectible 1:6 that is out there and I personally think HTs is far and away the best at 1:6 sculpting and clothing design.

I think they are more expensive. I also think they're the best.

 

[Boba Ben]

ok, so why does HTs seem to get more negativity when other 1:6 companies are just as expensive. $240 for Amy or the Doctor vs. $235 for new Wolverine, $209 Superman, $219 Captain America, $199 Thor, $195 Bane, $219 Loki, etc etc...

Because they set a price that was acceptable to a lot of collectors and then increased it by a lot in a really short time frame. This made the increase very noticeable to Hot Toys' fan base and is probably why people question it.

 

[Lejuan]

I think they are more expensive. I also think they're the best.

Two words: Medi. Com.

...and Enterbay - package deals and promotions notwithstanding - are comfortably in the $200+ range.

 

[Niceman]

ok, so why does HTs seem to get more negativity when other 1:6 companies are just as expensive. $240 for Amy or the Doctor vs. $235 for new Wolverine, $209 Superman, $219 Captain America, $199 Thor, $195 Bane, $219 Loki, etc etc...

Again, you can order the Doctor for less than $200.

The HT figures are getting more and more expensive and they're asking for NRDs now, sometimes a year in advance. I think that's worth complaining about.

 

[Niceman]

Two words: Medi. Com.

...and Enterbay - package deals and promotions notwithstanding - are comfortably in the $200+ range.

I've never been tempted into Medicom. The only EB ones I have are the MiB. $376 shipped for the two guys and a dog. (I think I was the only lucky customer not to have defective figures.)

 

[Niceman]

I know, you said that. But not directly from Big Chief, they are $240 which is their retail price... You can get HTs a little cheaper too from certain online dealers or even eBay.

Buying from Sideshow, yah sometimes, not always, has a NRD. But if you get them from other online dealers, some just ask for small deposits, or some don't charge your card until it ships.

To me if SSC needs to do NRD, i dont blame them because the fans in this hobby are very frantic. They change their minds all the time. Its like when you try and sell something on eBay and someone backs out and won't pay you and then you have to file UNPAID ITEMS. NRD helps cut down from their business end from people backing out.

The only thing I really don't like is how HTs reveals figures and Pre-Orders so early. A couple of months, fine. but when its like a year or more, it does get a little silly.

Yeah, I said it, and then you ignored it, so I said it again!
I've seen The Doctor for as low as $170 in the US. And $245 direct is after shipping from the UK. I don't know where you got $240 from.

I don't have a problem with short-term NRDs. I understand. My complaint is long term NRDs. I started paying off Luke in November!

 

[kl241]

Hot Toys needs to seriously improve their QC. For the prices we are paying we shouldn't be getting jacked up toys i.e. Tron Lightcycle.