House Burns Down, Pets Die While Fireman Watch

[hairlesswookiee]

Surely xbox before ps3

Honestly, I'd probably double fisting them down the stairs. They're on the same tower so unplugging a couple cables and they're free. Problem is, do I try to rescue my Dreamcast and Saturn?? I play those almost as much as the 360/PS3.

 

[The Ween]

Ween it's seems most side with the fire department. This is the perfect example of the medias grasp on society. People fail to actually rationalize the situation at hand to themselves and come to their on conclusions based on inaccurate reporting.

Well, it's just a shame that a house burns down and 4 animals die for $75. Other things could've been done. I'm sorry but that's just how I feel about it. Both sides are in the wrong. Hopefully something will be done to change it. I'm just so glad we don't have that around here.

They don't put fees on the ballet to be voted on here. They just put them on your bills. Fees are different than taxes.

 

[The Ween]

If I were living in an area where fire protection wasn't paid for by property taxes, I'd want my taxes raised to cover that cost.

The volunteer fire depts around here are funded by the county through property taxes. It's included with all other services. No seperate fee.

 

[The Ween]

have any of you actually been near a house fire? you wouldn't get within 5 feet of the door before the heat overwhelmed you. it's not a campfire. you would say "____ that" and your pets would die.

It would depend on how bad the fire had gotten before the firemen got there.

I have friends that are firemen and a relative. I haven't talked to them about this but I'm gonna definately ask their opinion.

 

[tcollector]

Here's my take on this. Since the guy didn't pay the $75.00 yearly fee and the Dept. worried that by helping this guy out and putting the fire out without prior payment they would set a bad precedent for others. They should put the fire out BUT bill him the actual total cost for the call. If that means $1000-$2000 or more. If he doesn't agree to that then I say let it burn. If he agrees but later after they save his home he refuses to pay assess it to his property.

 

[The Craw]

It would depend on how bad the fire had gotten before the firemen got there.

I have friends that are firemen and a relative. I haven't talked to them about this but I'm gonna definately ask their opinion.

it's the smoke that kills you anyway. not the flames. i was exposed to smoke from a fire for about 1 minute once. i couldn't stop coughing for a week. nobody is gonna expose themselves to that to save their pet. i'm sorry but people talk big on here. plus the heat is about 500-1000 degrees. next time you fire up the oven to 450 open the door and put your face in front of it and see how long you can take it. a burning building is much worse than that. people watch too many movies if you think it is just a walk in a park to jump into a burning building to save some dogs. the firemen were in the right to not defy orders and risk their lives for something that they probably wouldn't be covered for if something happened.

 

[Eli26]

We could talk about how some socialized government programs like fire protection are a good thing and how tragic an illustration it is when we see our fire protection services acting like the health care industry, but what kills me about this story is that the fire fighters sat in their trucks as the 3 dogs in the house burned alive.

Being a dog person this whole thing gets me worked up. I mean, I used to think fire fighters were heroes but these guys are just a bunch of spray-for-pay whores. Personally, if I was minding my business and had the power, training and tools to save the lives of 3 dogs, not to mention the cat and the house, and did nothing I would be a rotten human being. I would not have stood by and watched. I could not have done nothing. The house, well, they have insurance, but the dogs should not be allowed to die like that.

The dogs and cat should not be allowed to die like that.

 

[BuffyGirl]

I, as a human being, care more about life than I do about a job and money. If I had been one of the firemen, I would have asked myself what God wanted me to do, not what my boss (or whomever was in charge) wanted me to do.

The guy should have paid his fees. There is no question to that. He had a chance to do so. BUT, we are all human and we are all here to treat each other well, and lend a hand. I would have, at the very least, tried to save the pets. And the FF should have too.

You can go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, or that he got what's coming to him, etc. But again, I believe in helping man, and doing right as a person, before my job and money. Because those do not drive me, God and love do.

 

[Kabukiman]

You can go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, or that he got what's coming to him, etc. But again, I believe in helping man, and doing right as a person, before my job and money.

 

[EVILFACE]

I, as a human being, care more about life than I do about a job and money. If I had been one of the firemen, I would have asked myself what God wanted me to do, not what my boss (or whomever was in charge) wanted me to do.

Since his guys house was buring to the ground, I don't think God was going to do anything.

 

[King Darkness]

God doesnt employ me or pay my bills. I would listen to my boss.

 

[The Josh]

This saddens me a bit. They should have paid their bill that's a fact. However, these firemen have a responsiblity to do what their jobs are. My dad is the fire chief here and I know for a fact he would never just tell them to leave a scene. They would work it and try to put the fire out. There are other ways to get the $75.

Now that being said. People are cheap ***** when it comes to things like this. The area here voted down raising their taxes just a bit so the guys could get better equipment and a new station (which they need badly) but are probably gonna pass a tax that will pay for some stupid ____ing new pool.

 

[ProgMatinee]

the cost to put out the fire isn't $75.

ths cost is probably in excess of $20,000.

this is really not much different than car insurance. if you don't pay your premium and total your car you can't call the insurance company the next day and say, look if I pay my $100 for the month will you back date my policy. it doesn't work that way. otherwise who in their right mind would ever pay the premium before an accident? the point of paying premiums is that all the people who don't suffer a loss cover the losses of the few that do.
in all seriousness, this guy sacrificed his dogs and home for the good of society. now almost everyone will know the value of firefighters.

 

[EVILFACE]

And imagine if they did put out the fire, next round of billing no one pays their fee cause why pay if they they put out the fire for those that don't pay. Then this FD drops the service all together and this township is then left with nothing.

 

[a-dev]

I just keep going back to how the f___ the animals all got left inside the house. Were they all crippled, locked in a cage, what? You run out your door and call out to your dogs they'll run right after you.

 

[BuffyGirl]

I just keep going back to how the f___ the animals all got left inside the house. Were they all crippled, locked in a cage, what? You run out your door and call out to your dogs they'll run right after you.

Even my cats come when they are called.

 

[KashmirKong]

You have to pay for firefighters in america

Well paying for the service through taxes is Socialism good sir, and only Godless UnAmerican Communists support THAT.

 

[DiFabio]

The pets could have saved themselves.

 

[Jen]

Do we know how long the fire had been burning before the fire dept. arrived? I mean there is a very good possibility that the animals may have already been dead from smoke inhalation.

I know how valuable pets are to people - but I would never ask a fireman to put their life in danger to rescue my cat or dog - if I was foolish enough to run out of the house without grabbing them first.

I guess I tend to think of worse case scenarios - can you imagine if a firefighter did run in and was badly injured or killed. Someone loses a father/brother/husband/son because he was trying to save the pets of someone who didn't see the need to pay for fire service?

I don't see how anyone can blame the fire dept on this one. Responsibility lies with the family and the kid who started the fire. As horrible as it is - it is their fault their pets are dead.

 

[Voorhees27]

If the principle here is money then I feel sorry for some of you. It doesn't matter if the rest of the herd will follow and not pay, the point here is doing the humane thing.

There are plenty of volunteer programs that your tax dollars pay to operate. Programs for the people in need and for the too lazy to work so i'll let the government take care of me for free people.