How the new rule impacts this forum.

[Mollins]

I'll open it up to you - interest threads seem to be mostly pointless - more in the line of "wouldn't it be cool if this guy was made?" - with no intention of the original poster to follow through with hiring a sculptor.

The way this is worded causes me to have to ask a question;

If the OP had already contacted the sculptor and they had said 'if there is enough interest I'll do it', much akin to what Z does, is this acceptable?

I only ask as it's a different situation to what you're specified Dave.

 

[Reinhardt]

Re: New forum rule

And how do you propose the board enforces that? It would be impossible.

Simple, the customizer won't accept money until after the head is finished. Like what Susala is doing.

Besides the bad feelings is creates from "running behind" customizers or impatient patrons is only secondary to what the main purpose is: to make sure the board isn't encouraging copyright violation.

This is still an issue if we are allowed to buy heads that have already been sculpted.

 

[Reinhardt]

PM's are a pain in the arse. Unless you massively upgrade the amount you can hold its not a workable solution. As someone who tries help out with administering a few of these things having a public record helps immensely.

How does keeping the workloads OFF the board help make ANYONE responsible ? If anything it makes it easier for sculpter to overcommit. Anyone who spent 2 minutes in the custom forum could see Howes was over committed. A better solution would be for each artist to maintain a thread where the first post listed all projects so people could judge for themselves.

How about leaving it in the open, but only the sculpter themselves can open the thread ?

I'm in agreement with this, but it doesn't have to be the sculptor who opens the thread. Lots of these sculptors don't speak english well at all, which is why there is someone else who creates the interest thread.

I don't see a reason why interest threads can't stay on, AS LONG AS money isn't exchanged until after the sculpt is complete. This is exactly what Susala is doing and it is working great. No hostility at all in her thread.

Just because one person messed up, it seems unfair to everyone else that can take on a workload that they can handle.

It will be VERY hard to manage interest through PMs. How does one know who would be interested to even send a PM, unless the entire board is sent a PM, and that would be even more annoying. At least this way the interest is contained in the thread, and if you are not interested, you don't click on thread (as opposed to getting PM after PM for stuff you don't care about).

I urge you to reconsider the banning of interest threads Dave. Once again, payment will only be sent AFTER the sculpt or done.

 

[ProgMatinee]

any sculptor that has an interest in selling an item should have the balls and decency to create their own damn thread. after the chris howes fiasco I'm not even going to bother anymore even reading threads where some third party is trying to organize it.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Re: New forum rule

I support the rules... But I also know what it means to the customizing section of the board.

Everything I have made is a licensed product of some sort, Jason, Myers, Freddy, etc... So it's a coffin nail to the customs section as far as full figures are concerned, at least those over one or two.

But I do agree that this section has gotten out of hand, and I had a part of it... I wish I hadn't. But I took on commissioned groups of figures, with a ton of work, and haven't come through as quickly as I wanted. Others have found themselves in the same predicament. And add to that, Chris Howes officially making us all look like idiots... And you have a situation ripe for a reckoning.

I'm sad to see things change, but I understand why they must. When I get my backlog done, people know where to find me... they know where my store will be. But things will never be the same.

So "thanks" to the recaster statue guys...

"Thanks" to Chris Howes...

The end has come.

 

[King Darkness]

Re: New forum rule

I support the rules... But I also know what it means to the customizing section of the board.

Everything I have made is a licensed product of some sort, Jason, Myers, Freddy, etc... So it's a coffin nail to the customs section as far as full figures are concerned, at least those over one or two.

But I do agree that this section has gotten out of hand, and I had a part of it... I wish I hadn't. But I took on commissioned groups of figures, with a ton of work, and haven't come through as quickly as I wanted. Others have found themselves in the same predicament. And add to that, Chris Howes officially making us all look like idiots... And you have a situation ripe for a reckoning.

I'm sad to see things change, but I understand why they must. When I get my backlog done, people know where to find me... they know where my store will be. But things will never be the same.

So "thanks" to the recaster statue guys...

"Thanks" to Chris Howes...

The end has come.

Well I for one I proud to own copyright infringed awesomeness by the Dark Artist!!!!

 

[lforigno]

Re: New forum rule

there are some great people to business with on these boards and I hope that these people do not loose any business, but I am actually in full support of this new rule. As a collector I want my items to be as unique as possible, so having possibly to do personnel commissions is not a problem.

 

[KBA]

Re: New forum rule

Finished reading the thread. Agree with this completely.

 

[Mooncat]

Re: New forum rule

Reading betwix the lines (possibly misreading) but is this coming from SSC as well ? Those certain pieces shown recently were kicking licensed ass, plus the C.Howes situation for obvious reasons. Its been coming for a while now. Well looks like alot of this will go OSW and the likes and become their legal gray/black and white area.



Does this also go for re-paints ? and or paints of unlicensed sculpts ?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: New forum rule

Ah crap, I purchased only 1 custom Marvel 1/4 scale piece, can I buy 2 more before the rule goes into effect.....

Man, I even have to change my Avatar and Signature now

Only joking.

Sideshow Freaks Forum and Sideshow the company come first above all else therefore I will abide by the rules of the board.

Dave, my personal 3 threads have pictures of my one custom Marvel piece, let me know what you want done, I'll gladly remove the pics if need be.

Thank you

Joe out

 

[Darklord Dave]

any sculptor that has an interest in selling an item should have the balls and decency to create their own damn thread. after the chris howes fiasco I'm not even going to bother anymore even reading threads where some third party is trying to organize it.

Reinhardt makes a good point about some of them not having English as a primary language. And having another board member as an administrator also makes sense, just so there is more than one person who is responsible. It also gives the artist a single person to be responsible to, so they don't have to waste time updating everyone - the project administrator does that.

I'm willing to backtrack on this if there is a better solution - I certainly want to keep the 1/6 artists coming to the board and showing their work.

One thing I'm thinking of is eliminating the "custom commissions" subforum. It seems that more is being posted there than just commission stuff and integrating it back into the main custom forum may be the way to go.

Comments?

 

[creecher]

One thing I'm thinking of is eliminating the "custom commissions" subforum. It seems that more is being posted there than just commission stuff and integrating it back into the main custom forum may be the way to go.

Comments?

Could be a good idea. In keeping with that, maybe have a custom sale section to replace commissions and keep them apart and differentiate them from regular sales.

 

[LordAzrael]

maybe putting all the "interests" threads which become the commission threads in one area. When it changes from interest to commission close one thread and open the commission thread which must have the artist name in title - therefore helping you see what the artist has taken on.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Re: New forum rule

If you aren't a collector of 1/6, please stay out of this thread. We really don't care what you think.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Re: New forum rule

Ah crap, I purchased only 1 custom Marvel 1/4 scale piece, can I buy 2 more before the rule goes into effect.....

Man, I even have to change my Avatar and Signature now

Only joking.

Sideshow Freaks Forum and Sideshow the company come first above all else therefore I will abide by the rules of the board.

Dave, my personal 3 threads have pictures of my one custom Marvel piece, let me know what you want done, I'll gladly remove the pics if need be.

Thank you

Joe out

As long as the thread isn't about those pieces it's okay.

 

[Entropy]

Reinhardt makes a good point about some of them not having English as a primary language. And having another board member as an administrator also makes sense, just so there is more than one person who is responsible. It also gives the artist a single person to be responsible to, so they don't have to waste time updating everyone - the project administrator does that.

I'm willing to backtrack on this if there is a better solution - I certainly want to keep the 1/6 artists coming to the board and showing their work.

One thing I'm thinking of is eliminating the "custom commissions" subforum. It seems that more is being posted there than just commission stuff and integrating it back into the main custom forum may be the way to go.

Comments?

I'd be fine with that. The commissions sub forum does seem to have more than just commission stuff and there's a lot of overlap between the 2 sections. It would be nice if commissions and FS stuff was kept there exclusively but like the "photo" review threads people often post whatever wherever they please.

The threads that irritate me are the numerous vaporware "I'd like this character, do you like them too?" interest threads that go nowhere.
If there is stuff to show, show it, but these wish threads have gotten out of control and serve no purpose.

 

[GDZILLA95]

Re: New forum rule

See below in the quote for my message typed in red

Okay, it sounds like the commission stuff I do is safe, so that's good.

If I understand this right, there's two things not to do.

1) Don't openly solicit interest or requests for work for a large group, and don't sell more than one of something in the sales section. If you do accept commissions, simply do it through PMs, and it's off the radar. Believe me, if your work speaks for itself, you'll still get plenty of it.

Surfer is correct on this(above) and Dave has even said that. He even said that what you do through PMs, he has no control over. My suggestion would be to go one step further and discuss you wants and needs through your private/personal email address. That way it should not have any effect on this forum.

2) Don't sell knockoffs. Modified pieces are okay, even if it's several of them as long as each piece is an original custom work and it isn't replicated (remolded and cast) for a large group.

That about sum it up, D Dave?

 

[Darklord Dave]

The threads that irritate me are the numerous vaporware "I'd like this character, do you like them too?" interest threads that go nowhere.
If there is stuff to show, show it, but these wish threads have gotten out of control and serve no purpose.

Ding! Ding! Ding! I agree 1000%. This are the lower forum of "interest" thread and mostly what I'm talking about.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Re: New forum rule

So my Vincent and Aldo threads are OK then??

Still ing for me!!

If I have a lets say Brad Pitt Fight Club or Shaun of the Dead figure due soon am I allowed to post up a thread??

As long as they aren't soliciting fully produced figures then they're okay.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Re: New forum rule

We've integrated the Custom Commissions subforum back into this forum.