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I felt the same way too and will probably get the new Hulk. It was a great deal and good opportunity so I couldn't pass up on him.
Spidey976
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Well, I am seriously considering getting the new Green PF, and just making a perfect head for me. I love sculpting those... Lol
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Finally found my grail. Where have you been all my life?
Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am in love with that piece. I think it is literally PERFECT. This is the grail that creates statue addicts( like myself). Hulk PF and the XM Magneto should never leave a collection. way to go man.
quadcent
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a true grail by any gauge... They don't make them like this, nor will they ever again. Hell if they made a statue like this again it would probably cost at least in the $750-$850 range I would bet..
Yeah I know....
I know I have explained this before but always feel like I should again so that people don't think I am Batcrap nuts... At the time I was a stay at home dad and if I needed money or if I wanted to get something knew for my collection I had to sell something else off... I think when I sold Hulk I needed a new TV
I should also add that as much as I like the PF it's never been my fav Hulk (face sculpt).... I want him again more for the completest in me now that I have all the other Large scale Hulk pieces...
But I can honestly say the statue is an amazing work of art.
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My new green hulk PF is only here to take up the time when i get the OG hulk PF, then it can go. By far the greatest. Damn so good. Good on ya man!!!
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For that quality, I would.
quadcent
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A year of two ago, if the quality was guaranteed....YES, Now though after the last couple years of subpar quality and lacklust art and imagination combined with the continuous rehash/repaints that ssc seems to be content on pumping out....NO. I haven't pulled the trigger on anything for almost a year I'd bet.......To be honest about the only thread I frequent the site for anymore is the movie/tv thread to catch up on new releases and what I might be interested in to catch up on TV show wise.....Sad I know...
A year of two ago, if the quality was guaranteed....YES, Now though after the last couple years of subpar quality and lacklust art and imagination combined with the continuous rehash/repaints that ssc seems to be content on pumping out....NO. I haven't pulled the trigger on anything for almost a year I'd bet.......To be honest about the only thread I frequent the site for anymore is the movie/tv thread to catch up on new releases and what I might be interested in to catch up on TV show wise.....Sad I know...
Well the statue which we're basing the quality question on is one that isn't lackluster art, imagination, rehashed/repaint, etc right? I guess what I'm inquiring is that if they returned to their roots in terms of quality (ie solid casts, inspired character + base designs, good paint apps, good qc, etc) and that cost a premium price of $750-800 today would you start buying again? Odds are that isn't ever happening but it'd be interesting to read various answers.
quadcent
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oh I gotcha, well I guess all I can do is refer to the XM line.....I think most would, and I would as well if the quality and artistic direction was brought back. I would even get into the XM line, but I just never felt comfortable with the order procedure and now with the outright cancellation of orders by some companies I'm glad I never got into that line.
I might..... But It would limit the amount of what I got....
Lets be honest. The Hulk PF is truly a Grail in every sense of the word.. IMO nothing comes close in terms of quality. NOTHING.
But if 850.00 was the regular price for pieces I would be out... With the exception of maybe the Occasional Hulk piece... He is the only character I am willing to lay down almost a 1000.00 for.
But I would not buy an 850.00 statue of anyone else... at least not on a regular basis like I do now at 400.00 +.
The Hulk PF just as the best paint apps I have ever seen on ANY statue...
oh I gotcha, well I guess all I can do is refer to the XM line.....I think most would, and I would as well if the quality and artistic direction was brought back. I would even get into the XM line, but I just never felt comfortable with the order procedure and now with the outright cancellation of orders by some companies I'm glad I never got into that line.
Even without shipping I think XM pieces are too expensive... They should be 500.00 tops... If SSC was able to release grails at 300.00 10 years ago then XM should be able to do it at 500.00 not 850.00. At least that is what everyone expects SSC to do now.... Not that I disagree... But the same can be said for any company.
Plus I would put some of SSC newer items in the "almost the same" category as the HULK PF... Lobo, Superman, King and Gladiator Hulk, Batman, Terminator 1, Skaar, Spidey, Venom, Hulk, Punisher Comiquettes, Star Wars Mythos line... All for much less then 850.00
SSC should just stay away from Iron Man
.Admittedly I have had good luck with SSC and never had the issues that many seem to have had. Then again I have yet to get an Iron Man product
Basically SSC should jus stay away from Iron Man products...
oh I gotcha, well I guess all I can do is refer to the XM line.....I think most would, and I would as well if the quality and artistic direction was brought back. I would even get into the XM line, but I just never felt comfortable with the order procedure and now with the outright cancellation of orders by some companies I'm glad I never got into that line.
Gotcha and that makes sense.
What people define as 'grail' varies, but I agree this PF is one of SSC's best from back in their prime. Playing devil's advocate, if this was the best statue you ever laid eyes on you wouldn't have sold it.
Also, this shouldn't turn into an XM discussion. If you land an XM Magneto, you'd change your tune quick. You're trying to compare SSC prices a decade ago to XM prices today? Sideshow can't even release the same scale products for the same price today as they did back then, so that makes little sense imo. Not only that, they've gone from full cast pieces to hollow slush casting to cut costs and you're still paying $150 more.
What people define as 'grail' varies, but I agree this PF is one of SSC's best from back in their prime. Playing devil's advocate, if this was the best statue you ever laid eyes on you wouldn't have sold it.
You're trying to compare SSC prices a decade ago to XM prices today? Sideshow can't even release the same scale products for the same price today as they did back then, so that makes little sense imo. Not only that, they've gone from full cast pieces to hollow slush casting to cut costs and you're still paying $150 more.
Well I was a different collector back then... Having said that... Just because I think it's the best does not mean its my Fav... Lobo is one of the top SSC pieces also IMO but far from my fav. Just stating that the Hulk is an amazing piece and one of, if not the all time best all around statues SSC has ever done... It's just not my fav... If it was I would have rebought a long time ago. Also as I have mentioned... No income makes you do stupid things
I have stated before that I think XM magneto is by far XM best piece and one of the best looking statues ever... I would however sell it in a heart beat as I really have no connection to the character.I think you missed my point.... People are complaining that SSC prices are going up... Which I understand... But I feel (I could be wrong) even if the quality was still Grail quality people would still complain... My point about XM is that 850.00 is too much... SSC have released pieces as of late that are as good as XM in quality and style but the price is much lower... Granted SSC has some misses... But they also release a lot more items (for better or worse)
King and Gladiator 650.00
Lobo 575.00
Superman 400.00
Batman 400.00
etc...
Now I am not saying that SSC QC could not be better... It should be... But even with great QC Some of XM pieces prices are too high. If King Hulk can be 650.00 then XM Hulk should be no more then that... If Superman and Batman can be 400.00 then XM Wolverine should be no more then 500.00
Even if a crappy painted Iron man is 425.00.... A well painted Iron Man is not worth 400.00 more... IMO anyways... Perhaps I would feel differently about that comparison if I was talking about a Hulk piece...
But anyways that was my point... People want SSC to stop raising prices and put out quality items like they use to... (Which I agree with and SSC still does most of the time IMO) but are fine with XM putting out pieces that have old SSC quality but for a much larger price point.
And if we want to bring up ES... Well that is another monster all together... I would rather have too many and have a chance to get one then too few and I miss out only to be assaulted in the aftermarket.
As for the hollow argument... I actually prefer my pieces to be lighter... I dust very often and it's a pain to move heavier pieces.. Once on the shelf they look great and I have yet to get a piece where I felt insulted by it's weight.
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PS - I don't mean to turn this into an XM discussion... I think they do great work.. They just have yet to do a piece of work that I think is worth the price point for me.. (Magnet don't count because I would not buy that same piece from SSC for 450.00.. due to the lack of love for the character)
Just someone brought up the 750 - 850 price point and you asked about "would you pay if they did... Which I think everyone knew what was implied.
The one argument in your favor may be that I might be willing to risk 850.00 because I could get my money +++ back if I decided to sell. With the High ES numbers by SSC.. I don't are how great QC is.. You are going to have a hard time getting your money back... So even if they made perfect pieces and sold them at 850.00 they are still going to have higher then normal ES.. Which means lower then average resale prices. And Like I said before... I would rather have too many for fans and collectors then too few.... I really don't miss the days of full time flippers at all.
Just someone brought up the 750 - 850 price point and you asked about "would you pay if they did... Which I think everyone knew what was implied.
The one argument in your favor may be that I might be willing to risk 850.00 because I could get my money +++ back if I decided to sell. With the High ES numbers by SSC.. I don't are how great QC is.. You are going to have a hard time getting your money back... So even if they made perfect pieces and sold them at 850.00 they are still going to have higher then normal ES.. Which means lower then average resale prices. And Like I said before... I would rather have too many for fans and collectors then too few.... I really don't miss the days of full time flippers at all.
Well I was a different collector back then... Having said that... Just because I think it's the best does not mean its my Fav... Lobo is one of the top SSC pieces also IMO but far from my fav. Just stating that the Hulk is an amazing piece and one of, if not the all time best all around statues SSC has ever done... It's just not my fav... If it was I would have rebought a long time ago. Also as I have mentioned... No income makes you do stupid things
I think you missed my point.... People are complaining that SSC prices are going up... Which I understand... But I feel (I could be wrong) even if the quality was still Grail quality people would still complain... My point about XM is that 850.00 is too much... SSC have released pieces as of late that are as good as XM in quality and style but the price is much lower... Granted SSC has some misses... But they also release a lot more items (for better or worse)
King and Gladiator 650.00
Lobo 575.00
Superman 400.00
Batman 400.00
etc...
Now I am not saying that SSC QC could not be better... It should be... But even with great QC Some of XM pieces prices are too high. If King Hulk can be 650.00 then XM Hulk should be no more then that... If Superman and Batman can be 400.00 then XM Wolverine should be no more then 500.00
Even if a crappy painted Iron man is 425.00.... A well painted Iron Man is not worth 400.00 more... IMO anyways... Perhaps I would feel differently about that comparison if I was talking about a Hulk piece...
But anyways that was my point... People want SSC to stop raising prices and put out quality items like they use to... (Which I agree with and SSC still does most of the time IMO) but are fine with XM putting out pieces that have old SSC quality but for a much larger price point.
And if we want to bring up ES... Well that is another monster all together... I would rather have too many and have a chance to get one then too few and I miss out only to be assaulted in the aftermarket.
$300 today doesn't buy you what it did 10 years ago, if it did there would have been no reason for Sideshow to accept a dip in quality and start hammering out hollow collectibles. It cost a nickel for a cinema ticket back in the day and now that ticket cost has inflated to $15-20+. If you adamantly refuse to go to the movies ever again due to inflation that's your choice, no problem with that. Others see the value in an improved cinematic experience and are willing to spend the money, no problem with that either.
You keep talking about XM
... prices are 'too high', I assume you're referencing North American collectors? International collectors are paying similar prices for Sideshow products by the time shipping, VAT and customs fees are applied so that's pretty much a wash. If you're giving me a choice to display an awesome IM product for $800 or a complete mess for $400 that will annoy me every time I view it, I'll spend the extra $400. I don't know about you but I want the best representation of a character in my display for my enjoyment every day, as I don't buy with intentions of selling, so the extra money is well spent. If you're okay with a sub-par collectibles display to view every day while saving some cash that's your choice.
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