Independence Day sequels

[Victοr]

IGN shouldn't review anything other than videogames, not that they're any good at that either...

Never forget:

 

[Khev]

Just when I thought I was out....

....well...yeah. But damn good point Jye With just another few minutes travelling around the remainder of earth they could have wiped out all possible resistance.

That one is easy to explain for two reasons.

#1 - The Harvester Queen is

Spoiler

So none of her decisions really need to "make sense" to a human mind.

#2 - Let's say we WANT them to make sense. Okay, well then who's to say that she wasn't royally pissed at their one and only defeat and really wanted to savor the eradication of all life on Earth. So she personally piloted an invincible ship to Earth, parked it on a quarter of the planet and proceeded to take out the Earth's magnetic field so she could have a front row seat to everyone getting cooked by solar radiation.

She wasn't "stupid," because her initial plan was immune to any human counterattack. Literally. In all shapes and forms. No human weapons could touch her ship, no virus, no trojan war nukes, nothing. It was only the wild card of the lone sphere that played a mind game with her and caused her to ditch her fool proof plan and try and hunt down what she saw as the single threat in the universe. If she could take out that sphere then victory on a universe level was assured and as a bit of a cool self-fulfilling prophecy got her sloppy and off her game.

Are you sure you weren't just in a really bad mood on the day back in 1996? I find it hard to believe that Resurgence is the film that gave you what you were craving from an Alien Invasion movie

I meant that the alien invasion void was collectively filled by a number of movies since 1996. I don't really "need" any one movie to do that anymore. So Resurgence is easier to accept as a fun summer popcorn movie, especially since it doesn't have the more irritating elements of the original.

 

[a-dev]

Something I noticed in the new film

Spoiler

it seems like the Alien shields are not totally impervious - the Queen's personal shield withstood the destruction of her ship around her but evidently it was gradually depleted by sustained attack thereafter from the fighters. (the most videogamey part of the film I might add) No virus needed to be uploaded anywhere to bring her shields down.

Does that mean that a second nuke attack on the city ship in the first movie might have actually worked?

 

[theuzi9mm]

dvd/download this one for me!

 

[Khev]

Something I noticed in the new film

Spoiler

it seems like the Alien shields are not totally impervious - the Queen's personal shield withstood the destruction of her ship around her but evidently it was gradually depleted by sustained attack thereafter from the fighters. (the most videogamey part of the film I might add) No virus needed to be uploaded anywhere to bring her shields down.

Does that mean that a second nuke attack on the city ship in the first movie might have actually worked?

I just assumed that the shields were still impervious to all 20th century Earth weapons which is why the humans upgraded all of their cannons to the lasers used by the aliens.

 

[The Ween]

That one is easy to explain for two reasons.

#1 - The Harvester Queen is


So none of her decisions really need to "make sense" to a human mind.

#2 - Let's say we WANT them to make sense. Okay, well then who's to say that she wasn't royally pissed at their one and only defeat and really wanted to savor the eradication of all life on Earth. So she personally piloted an invincible ship to Earth, parked it on a quarter of the planet and proceeded to take out the Earth's magnetic field so she could have a front row seat to everyone getting cooked by solar radiation.

She wasn't "stupid," because her initial plan was immune to any human counterattack. Literally. In all shapes and forms. No human weapons could touch her ship, no virus, no trojan war nukes, nothing. It was only the wild card of the lone sphere that played a mind game with her and caused her to ditch her fool proof plan and try and hunt down what she saw as the single threat in the universe. If she could take out that sphere then victory on a universe level was assured and as a bit of a cool self-fulfilling prophecy got her sloppy and off her game.




I meant that the alien invasion void was collectively filled by a number of movies since 1996. I don't really "need" any one movie to do that anymore. So Resurgence is easier to accept as a fun summer popcorn movie, especially since it doesn't have the more irritating elements of the original.

I just look at it the same I what I see in a lot of films. The bad guy usually talks too much and instead of just killing the hero, he has to go through all these motions and speeches, giving our hero time to get away or kick the villains butt. Or when there's one hero and a gang of guys trying to kick his ass, instead of them all going at him at the same time, they go at him one at a time and each get the crap beat out of each one of them. And of course the best one is the unlimited ammo and excellent aim that heros have.

**** like this happens in movies all the time. It doesn't make sense, but you kinda have to just ignore it. Most movies, especially action movies are pretty much unbelievable at times.

 

[a-dev]

Here's red letter media. One half agrees with you Khev.

https://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-independence-day-resurgence/

 

[jye4ever]

The problem for me was that all the characters just sucked.

It all just felt so contrived.

Definately the year of urine though.

First Lex, then Hemsworth pees on the mothership and next up will be Joker.

 

[Khev]

One thing that jumped out at me in Resurgence was when the one city was being pulled up into the sky including skyscrapers, buses, people, etc., that when everything started coming down there were still tons of people running screaming in the streets trying to dodge the falling debris. Huh? How'd that work? Were those people wearing special boots that prevented them from being pulled up in the first place?

 

[kryptonianmutie]

The problem for me was that all the characters just sucked.

It all just felt so contrived.

Definately the year of urine though.

First Lex, then Hemsworth pees on the mothership and next up will be Joker.

Don't forget Cyclops hiding in the toilet, and whatever that yellow stuff was flowing through Apocalypse's pyramid.

 

[Khev]

Yeah we've had a urine escalation from last year to this year. Fury Road and The Revenant both introduced Tom Hardy with a scene of him taking a piss. Now everyone is doing it.

 

[a-dev]

If they ever bring back 24, now would appear to be the time to show Jack Bauer going for a piss - to acknowledge that pissing and ***ting do exist in the world of 24.

 

[jye4ever]

It's safe to say Alien invasion movies are done while more shark movies will be greenlit.

 

[Khev]

Here's red letter media. One half agrees with you Khev.

https://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-independence-day-resurgence/

Yeah, from the few minutes of that review I watched I do agree with the guy on the left. First movie: Disappointing. Second movie: Harmless and fun. I don't see how anyone would think it was offensive enough to be "terrible." Maybe too generic or something which could make it boring if you weren't in the mood for it and it definitely wasn't great or anything but I think it delivered exactly the film it advertised which was quite entertaining.

It's safe to say Alien invasion movies are done while more shark movies will be greenlit.

Colin Trevorrow to direct JAWS World. Infinity War and JL cancelled.

 

[jye4ever]

Jaws One

Suicide Shark

Finding Bruce

Shallow-er

Sharkpool

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Yeah, from the few minutes of that review I watched I do agree with the guy on the left. First movie: Disappointing. Second movie: Harmless and fun. I don't see how anyone would think it was offensive enough to be "terrible." Maybe too generic or something which could make it boring if you weren't in the mood for it and it definitely wasn't great or anything but I think it delivered exactly the film it advertised which was quite entertaining.



Colin Trevorrow to direct JAWS World. Infinity War and JL cancelled.

It hasn't really occurred to me to think of these superhero movies as Alien invasion flicks, but that's what a lot of them are.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah, from the few minutes of that review I watched I do agree with the guy on the left. First movie: Disappointing. Second movie: Harmless and fun. I don't see how anyone would think it was offensive enough to be "terrible." Maybe too generic or something which could make it boring if you weren't in the mood for it and it definitely wasn't great or anything but I think it delivered exactly the film it advertised which was quite entertaining.

I'll go with generic, I won't call it terrible. Although I do find it bizarre that he hates every other Emmerich film and yet this one finally did something right?...what?

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah seriously, this made the 1st look like a logical coherent oscar winning masterpiece.

 

[Khev]

What'd you think of the foot soldiers in Resurgence a-dev? I thought they looked really cool. I do agree that the superior sequel retro-actively improved the events of the first one jye but I wouldn't say it was elevated to Oscar status.

 

[jye4ever]

I did like that the queen had design elements from Iris, the Kaiju in Gamera 3 Revenge of Iris.