DinoLast
Super Freak
Things are not so cheap in China as they used to be
Indiana Jones in German Disguise 12-inch Figure
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This is true, due to their labor force gaining leverage against the companies that they work for, and their industries broadly realizing how much the rest of the world relies on them for. . .well, everything. But things haven't gone up 100% in price in 4-5 years.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
SSC has a fullproof excuse built in when it doesn't sell well. They just limit the run and all the apologists can simply claim that because its so limited that they had to set a high price!
But the fact is, the run is TBD. So if SSC really wanted they could have priced this much lower, sold a ton and thus the low cost becomes justified.
Really, SSC made a selffulfilling prophecy by pricing it so ******* high.
But the fact is, the run is TBD. So if SSC really wanted they could have priced this much lower, sold a ton and thus the low cost becomes justified.
Really, SSC made a selffulfilling prophecy by pricing it so ******* high.
I know. Nuts aint it.
I love it. We're tossing out the apologist nonsense again.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
I know. Nuts aint it.
I love it. We're tossing out the apologist nonsense again.
You don't have to take offense...and its not nonsense. Whatever I call them, 3 months from now, if I bring up "man bazooka Indy sure was expensive" people are going to point to how small the edition size was as justification for the high price, but the fact of the matter is that on preorder day the price was set but the edition size was TBD.
Its up to you whether you want to be labeled as one of those or not, Joshua.
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It is nonsense. If you have to call people you dont agree with apologist or haters then you lose what your point is all about. Though for some thats the only way they can make a point. I bet they know what the ES is right now. As to why they don't I have no idea.
I've been labeled that by those that are some fantastic folks, but I would hope most adults could make their point without calling someone an apologist or hater. As far as calling me Joshua unless I know you then just call me Josh.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
You're too uptight. And the way you touch me I think I've earned the right to call you Joshua. And "apologist" is just a short way of saying "people who will create a justification and speak for SSC even though they have absolutely no clue why SSC made a decision that frustrates fans". Don't want the label, don't do it. Considering that my posts above actually had an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about, I don't think I'm just slinging names, and even if you do call it name calling, there's no one specific I'm referencing and the event has yet to happen. Again, I can't help it if you associate yourself in that group. I didn't even know you were reading this thread when I posted.
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It was one night and I was really drunk.
How about its their opinion as to why SS did it. Why does it have to be a justification? Its not but folks that don't agree use that as a way to knock someones 2 cents.
I don't want the label but I have the right and will give my opinon as to why I think SS does something. Of course you're not to individuals just those you feel give their two cents as to why something is done.
How about its their opinion as to why SS did it. Why does it have to be a justification? Its not but folks that don't agree use that as a way to knock someones 2 cents.
I don't want the label but I have the right and will give my opinon as to why I think SS does something. Of course you're not to individuals just those you feel give their two cents as to why something is done.
metaphorge
Archbishop of Bologna!!!
What I don't get is, if they wanted to go for an ROTLA Indy variant, why not Map Room Indy? I guess it came down to whether they would have to do a new headsculpt to get the head-wrap thing to look right, but that seems like an infinitely more interesting version of the character.
I might pick this up as I planned to eventually kitbash this outfit, but it's going to be awfully low on my priorities list.
(Or, wishful thinking: next figure is Marion with lamp post environment to tie her and Indy to for the big Ark ceremony climax? Nah, that's talking crazy talk....)
What's a comparable straight-up (unlicensed) military figure selling for these days? I imagine most of those have more stuff with them than this does.
This seems to be a bit out of range pricewise, though it's also possible this thing is the new bellweather for prices for this sort of figure. Half the toy companies in China did go under in the last year or so you know, so factory-time may be running at a premium. Have you guys seen what Hasbro's 4" Joes or Marvel figures are selling for these days?
This bull^^^^ is going to drive me into becoming a frakkin' economist.
I might pick this up as I planned to eventually kitbash this outfit, but it's going to be awfully low on my priorities list.
(Or, wishful thinking: next figure is Marion with lamp post environment to tie her and Indy to for the big Ark ceremony climax? Nah, that's talking crazy talk....)
What's a comparable straight-up (unlicensed) military figure selling for these days? I imagine most of those have more stuff with them than this does.
This seems to be a bit out of range pricewise, though it's also possible this thing is the new bellweather for prices for this sort of figure. Half the toy companies in China did go under in the last year or so you know, so factory-time may be running at a premium. Have you guys seen what Hasbro's 4" Joes or Marvel figures are selling for these days?
This bull^^^^ is going to drive me into becoming a frakkin' economist.
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ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
I have no problem with people stating their reasoning.
Here is mine.
Rule 1. Price and quality=value
Rule 2. Value determines quantity sold.
Fact 1. edition size is "TBD" (to be determined) at preorder
Fact 2. price is known at preorder
If rules 1 and 2 will determine edition size + fact 2 is true. How can someone claim edition size factored in price, again considering fact 2?
They cannot. Therefore, IMO, anyone that uses that justification to me in 3 months is an "apologist".
Edit: And I'm not trying to disparage people when I use "apologist". I'm not calling them liars or horrible people or ignorant or anything. Its only in this small toyworld.
Here is mine.
Rule 1. Price and quality=value
Rule 2. Value determines quantity sold.
Fact 1. edition size is "TBD" (to be determined) at preorder
Fact 2. price is known at preorder
If rules 1 and 2 will determine edition size + fact 2 is true. How can someone claim edition size factored in price, again considering fact 2?
They cannot. Therefore, IMO, anyone that uses that justification to me in 3 months is an "apologist".
Edit: And I'm not trying to disparage people when I use "apologist". I'm not calling them liars or horrible people or ignorant or anything. Its only in this small toyworld.
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thenammagazine
Super Freak
I think you've missed what even your so called "apologists" have been saying. 3 months from now, while I still believe that most people will still be saying WTF?!, I think those who've bought him will still be saying the same thing:
"Yeah, it's $90, and yeah, it's expensive, and yeah, he doesn't come with much, but I want him so I ordered him."
How the hell does that sound like an excuse or any justification of any kind?!
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metaphorge
Archbishop of Bologna!!!
What IS the development timeline on 1:6 figures? I'm just wondering how long this figure has been in the pipeline.
It varies. But this might be the easiest and simplest figure Sideshow has ever done for one of the major lines.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
I think you've missed what even your so called "apologists" have been saying. 3 months from now, while I still believe that most people will still be saying WTF?!, I think those who've bought him will still be saying the same thing:
"Yeah, it's $90, and yeah, it's expensive, and yeah, he doesn't come with much, but I don't mind paying it."
How the hell does that sound like an excuse or any justification of any kind?!
Thats not apologist. And thats not the target of my comment. I am specifically targeting the people that inevitably will use the "edition size dictated price" argument.
Because someone inevitably will, when in truth it will be the exact opposite. ES on this will have to be lower because of the insane price.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
Maybe this figure is prophetic and he's taking aim with that rocket launcher at the 1:6 line? Like in the movies, he won't pull the trigger, but that doesn't mean he won't stand on the ledge "holding" it indefinitely.
As for the ES, maybe they already know it. I don't ever remember Sideshow posting a new release with an edition size announced at the posting. Does anyone else?
Like in the movies, he won't pull the trigger, but that doesn't mean he won't stand on the ledge "holding" it indefinitely. As for the ES, maybe they already know it. I don't ever remember Sideshow posting a new release with an edition size announced at the posting. Does anyone else?
EVILFACE
Insufferable S.O.B.
Maybe this figure is prophetic and he's taking aim with that rocket launcher at the 1:6 line?
Good analogy.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
And you know what? SSC LOVES LOVES LOVES making certain releases rare anyway.
Thats what I meant by SSC can use a selffullfilling prophecy as a foolproof plan to lean back on if an overpriced item flops. They just make sure it doesn't happen to often.
But with the increases in prices and downturn economy this can really bite them on the ankle like an asp in the desert.
From personal experience, the over priced figures like Ki Adi, Aayla, and Rebel Fleet Trooper killed my interest in the lSW ine (and it had nothing to do with character choice because $20 cheaper I would have bought them all).
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